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3 years ago  ::  Aug 17, 2010 - 10:35PM #21
TheDamned
Date Joined: Jul 7, 2010
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Why Nest Invader? It doesn't give you any extra Green mana. It seems like I'd rather play Sylvan Ranger if I'm trying to accelerate so much.
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3 years ago  ::  Aug 17, 2010 - 11:05PM #22
JaketheLate
Date Joined: Dec 9, 2008
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Aug 17, 2010 -- 10:35PM, TheDamned wrote:

Why Nest Invader? It doesn't give you any extra Green mana. It seems like I'd rather play Sylvan Ranger if I'm trying to accelerate so much.



Sylvan Ranger doesn't really accelerate, but rather lets you keep two land hands by effectively making them three land hands. As to Nest Invader, playing that off a leveled up Treespeaker gives you a guaranteed five mana next turn, with the possibility of six if you have that land. This would allow you to play a turn three Terra Stomper, which in this Meta of Counters is pretty Damn sexy(P.S: that also makes Spellbreaker worth looking at!)

I would have killed, literally ended someones life, to NOT have Arrogant Bloodlord riding a giant ant...

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I was at my friends house when this happened. He's married and his wife was an excellent baker. She had baked a homemade apple pie the night before.

I was hungry, and my friend convinced me to try those low carb monster drinks. Before this day, I had never triend energy drinks before.

Boy was I in for a treat.

When I tried that first monster, I really enjoyed the flavor, but the taste that it left in my mouth wasn't so good. What was my solution? Drink another!

before I could finish drinking that 2nd monster, I felt it already kicking in(these drinks were not very far apart, we're talking minutes here) my friend decided that it was a good idea to whip out that fresh pie his wife made the night before. I didn't know what to do, since I felt incredibly invigorated, and at the same time, freaked out by the rush I was feeling, but I was also hungry, and my friend have me an entire plate with a fork and said "help yourself." He extended his saucer to me, and I cut him a piece of the pie and handed it to him, then I looked at the pie, noticed that the pie was in an aluminum holder, and dumped the entire pie onto my plate and started eating it with 2 forks. I don't know where I found that other fork, it probably came from my friend. Anyhow, his wife wasn't happy, and I was already in magical christmas land. 2 days later, I was in my friends bed and I slept for 14 hours.

His wife outlawed my from having any of her baked goods for a while(which sucked because I could just show up at there house, steal some sweets, and leave) and said I couldn't have any energy drinks at her house, unless under close watch.

My friend, on the other hand, had to take me out to a steak dinner, because apparently I won a bet where I climbed a tree and didn't die.

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Feb 12, 2011 -- 7:31PM, alanwescoat wrote:

Zendikar had fetchlands, and Worldwake had manlands.  What are the new Scars duals called?



Feb 12, 2011 -- 8:56PM, Razorgore wrote:

Explosive Peanut Lightning lands. Well, that's just what I call them.




Mar 3, 2011 -- 12:54AM, Razorgore wrote:

Mar 2, 2011 -- 11:01PM, Burning_Forest wrote:

i'm just trying to figure out what the point of saying this is.  it's just really random.



And so the pot met the kettle.

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3 years ago  ::  Aug 17, 2010 - 11:13PM #23
TheDamned
Date Joined: Jul 7, 2010
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True. I suppose it would be best to not build everything around Omnath.

Speaking of which, I feel like Canopy Cover needs in a deck with Omnath in it, if only because of how popular Jace is. (Well, that and it means that nothing can touch Omnath that isn't DoJ or Consuming Vapors.)

With regards to Blue and Black, I'm still not sure how I feel about Autumn's Veil. It seems like iffy even as a sideboard card due to the aforementioned usability of Terra Stomper. The only thing it really stops is Doom Blade (and, well, Bituminous Blast and Executioner's Capsule ).

Hmm...all this consideration of Green has me wanting to build around Leyline of Vitality now or at least try to use it. I'll try to think of something before I go to bed.
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3 years ago  ::  Aug 17, 2010 - 11:28PM #24
Necroskitter_Ashes
Date Joined: Jul 9, 2008
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Here's my Ascension list that's pretty consistent and quick:

4x Birds of Paradise
4x Joraga Treespeaker
4x Garruk's Companion
4x Nest Invader
4x Leatherback Baloth
4x Obstinate Baloth
4x Kozilek's Predator

3x Beastmaster Ascension
4x Overwhelming Stampede

3x Garruk Wildspeaker

18x Forest
4x Khalni Garden

Evolving sideboard:

4x River Boa
4x Mold Shambler
4x Wolfbriar Elemental
3x Canopy Cover
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3 years ago  ::  Aug 18, 2010 - 1:58AM #25
JaketheLate
Date Joined: Dec 9, 2008
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Aug 17, 2010 -- 11:13PM, TheDamned wrote:

True. I suppose it would be best to not build everything around Omnath.

Speaking of which, I feel like Canopy Cover needs in a deck with Omnath in it, if only because of how popular Jace is. (Well, that and it means that nothing can touch Omnath that isn't DoJ or Consuming Vapors.)

With regards to Blue and Black, I'm still not sure how I feel about Autumn's Veil. It seems like iffy even as a sideboard card due to the aforementioned usability of Terra Stomper. The only thing it really stops is Doom Blade (and, well, Bitumonous Blast and Executioner's Capsule ).

Hmm...all this consideration of Green has me wanting to build around Leyline of Vitality now or at least try to use it. I'll try to think of something before I go to bed.



The big thing about Veil is that it stops targeting as well. It definitely belongs in the side along with Vines.

As to the Leyine. Start with tokes and go from there. or maybe something with Walls...

I would have killed, literally ended someones life, to NOT have Arrogant Bloodlord riding a giant ant...

Good times:
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but where DID the other fork come from?
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Lord_Zed:   
I was at my friends house when this happened. He's married and his wife was an excellent baker. She had baked a homemade apple pie the night before.

I was hungry, and my friend convinced me to try those low carb monster drinks. Before this day, I had never triend energy drinks before.

Boy was I in for a treat.

When I tried that first monster, I really enjoyed the flavor, but the taste that it left in my mouth wasn't so good. What was my solution? Drink another!

before I could finish drinking that 2nd monster, I felt it already kicking in(these drinks were not very far apart, we're talking minutes here) my friend decided that it was a good idea to whip out that fresh pie his wife made the night before. I didn't know what to do, since I felt incredibly invigorated, and at the same time, freaked out by the rush I was feeling, but I was also hungry, and my friend have me an entire plate with a fork and said "help yourself." He extended his saucer to me, and I cut him a piece of the pie and handed it to him, then I looked at the pie, noticed that the pie was in an aluminum holder, and dumped the entire pie onto my plate and started eating it with 2 forks. I don't know where I found that other fork, it probably came from my friend. Anyhow, his wife wasn't happy, and I was already in magical christmas land. 2 days later, I was in my friends bed and I slept for 14 hours.

His wife outlawed my from having any of her baked goods for a while(which sucked because I could just show up at there house, steal some sweets, and leave) and said I couldn't have any energy drinks at her house, unless under close watch.

My friend, on the other hand, had to take me out to a steak dinner, because apparently I won a bet where I climbed a tree and didn't die.

The great land debate:
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Feb 12, 2011 -- 7:31PM, alanwescoat wrote:

Zendikar had fetchlands, and Worldwake had manlands.  What are the new Scars duals called?



Feb 12, 2011 -- 8:56PM, Razorgore wrote:

Explosive Peanut Lightning lands. Well, that's just what I call them.




Mar 3, 2011 -- 12:54AM, Razorgore wrote:

Mar 2, 2011 -- 11:01PM, Burning_Forest wrote:

i'm just trying to figure out what the point of saying this is.  it's just really random.



And so the pot met the kettle.

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3 years ago  ::  Aug 18, 2010 - 7:25AM #26
Drockius
Date Joined: Apr 29, 2010
Posts: 375

Aug 17, 2010 -- 8:50PM, JaketheLate wrote:



@Drockius: why the archruid? it only benefits from Fauna Shaman, which leads me to my next question: Why Fauna Shaman? Neither of these cards looks like they're being utilized as well as they could be. If you disagree, please post Win/Loss records.




I don't have a win/loss record with the deck yet. FNMs around my area aren't doing standard constructed until scars.

Why the archdruid? Mana accel. I don't have Lotus Cobra or the fetchlands with which to abuse the cobra. Why fauna shaman? Good question. I figured she worked with Vengevine as a package deal. Sort of a "I would really, really like a Gaea's Revenge right now." scenario.

She probably isn't worth it to be honest. Hence why I posted it here to get opinions and recommendations

What would you put in place of archdruid and fauna shaman? Llanowar elves or overgrown battlement for the druid? what would replace the shaman? It's not like she has a need that has to be replaced.

And I'm still working on a sideboard. My current one is repulsively bad and it needs to be scattered to the winds.  Maybe 4 beastmaster's ascensions and 3 or 4 avenger of zendikar? I've always wanted a sideboard that could alter my deck strategy completely to throw off my opponent and changing it from Big Stompy Smash to Token Swarm would be sweet.

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3 years ago  ::  Aug 18, 2010 - 11:24AM #27
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Date Joined: Apr 7, 2010
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Aug 17, 2010 -- 9:26PM, SacQasaliPridemage wrote:

i have to agree Jake, Arbor Elf is pretty terrible. Treespeaker is the best ramp-on-a-stick in the format. T1 Treespeaker, T2 Level + regular 2 drop, T3 5 drop, 6 drop if you played Explore or Nest Invader. Speed green overall is pretty ridiculous. T3 Terra Stomper makes for a very short clock.




Hmm, yea, but the only problem I run into with treespeaker is actually having that 2nd land in my opening hand.  T1 - Treespeaker, T2 . . . . swing for 1?  Maybe I'll just switch it up and run 2 of each, because you do make a good point about the card.  As the deck plays right now, a turn 4 win is possible, especially considering dropping either khalni hydra or channelers early (channelers being a 5/5 with stampede, anyway)

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3 years ago  ::  Aug 18, 2010 - 11:32AM #28
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P so i have been working on an eldrazi ascention deck since worldwake as a pet project of sorts, and this is what i've come up with....

the beaters: 25
1 scute mobImage.ashx?type=card&name=scute mob
llanowar elvesImage.ashx?type=card&name=llandowar elves
birds of paradiseImage.ashx?type=card&name=birds of paradise
lotus cobraImage.ashx?type=card&name=lotus cobra
elvish visionaryImage.ashx?type=card&name=elvish visionary (can become more cultivate and explores for rotation purposes)
great sable stagImage.ashx?type=card&name=great sable stag (this can become some other beater, like obstinate baloth post rotation)
omnath, locus of manaImage.ashx?type=card&name=omnath, locus of mana
,2 wolfbriar elementalImage.ashx?type=card&name=wolfbriar elemental
master of the wild huntImage.ashx?type=card&name=master of the wild hunt (can be replaced with more wolfbriars for rotation purposes)
avenger of zendikarImage.ashx?type=card&name=avenger of zendikar
1 primeval titanImage.ashx?type=card&name=primeval titan

the spells:15
eldrazi monumentImage.ashx?type=card&name=eldrazi monument
beastmaster ascensionImage.ashx?type=card&name=beastmaster ascention
cultivateImage.ashx?type=card&name=cultivate
exploreImage.ashx?type=card&name=explore
2 soul's majestyImage.ashx?type=card&name=soul's majesty (can be replaced with momentous fall for rotation purposes)
2 summoning trapImage.ashx?type=card&name=summoning trap

land:20
4 khalni gardenImage.ashx?type=card&name=khalni garden
16 forestImage.ashx?type=card&name=forest

sideboard:15
4 nissa's chosenImage.ashx?type=card&name=nissa's chosen
4 nissa revaneImage.ashx?type=card&name=nissa revane
4 mold shamblerImage.ashx?type=card&name=mold shambler
3 pithing needleImage.ashx?type=card&name=pithing needle
well the ideas were taken from quite a few decks, for example this deck gets the indestructable beats of the monument, it is in classic overrun style, i've also cannibalized some 0f turboland and valakut into this deck for massive token beats and whatnot. finally this steals from mythic it's massive manadork ramping, while still dumping on the field massive beats with tokens to great success.

anyways to the how to play the deck:
 you mana ramp really really well with the elves, birds, lotus cobra or you use omnath as a green mana battery :P also cultivate should help with that as well, you make alot of tokens or huge guys and just run them over. there are numerous ways to accomplish this, by means of playing the beastmaster ascention, eldrazi monument, or making omnath/scute mob really large naturally, you bounce back from world wipes by means of using your massive mana gain capabilities to dump an extrordinarily multikicked wolfbriar, avenger of zendikar, or drawing alot to refill your hand with soul's majesty.

the sideboard explanation:
ok so here's why my sideboard is as it is, nissa and her chosen go in against a spot removal heavy deck, because nissa's chosen just keep coming back, and nissa can be replaced with another one really easily. they slowly run out of resources and you win the attrition game.

the shamblers go in for valakut mostly and mythic to just explode conscriptions left right and center, and pithing needle is overall good planeswalker hate whenever needed.

any questions comments, flames or whatever are appriciated to hear feedback about this deck...
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3 years ago  ::  Aug 18, 2010 - 12:11PM #29
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Casually strolling in to post this:

Creatures:
4x Llanowar Elves
4x Arbor Elf
4x Elvish Visionary
4x Nissa's Chosen
4x Oran-Rief Survivalist
4x Timbermaw Larva
4x Mold Shambler

Spells:
4x Vines of Vastwood
4x Primal Bellow
4x Giant Growth


Land:
4x Quicksand
16x Forests


I'd post better cards, but this is what I have on hand at the moment, so I'll build/improve off of this...

Silly mono green stompy deck could use improvement, I guess...

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3 years ago  ::  Aug 18, 2010 - 3:12PM #30
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Aug 18, 2010 -- 11:24AM, GiantBeebles wrote:

Aug 17, 2010 -- 9:26PM, SacQasaliPridemage wrote:

i have to agree Jake, Arbor Elf is pretty terrible. Treespeaker is the best ramp-on-a-stick in the format. T1 Treespeaker, T2 Level + regular 2 drop, T3 5 drop, 6 drop if you played Explore or Nest Invader. Speed green overall is pretty ridiculous. T3 Terra Stomper makes for a very short clock.




Hmm, yea, but the only problem I run into with treespeaker is actually having that 2nd land in my opening hand.  T1 - Treespeaker, T2 . . . . swing for 1?  Maybe I'll just switch it up and run 2 of each, because you do make a good point about the card.  As the deck plays right now, a turn 4 win is possible, especially considering dropping either khalni hydra or channelers early (channelers being a 5/5 with stampede, anyway)




This one minor drawback is fixed easily by the simple fact that unless your deck is named "Sligh" (or you've mulliganed to 5) you have absolutely no business keeping a one land hand.

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