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3 years ago ::
Jul 22, 2010 - 2:43AM
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So let's say you have out a Flash  Card  , and play a spell like Summer Bloom  on your oppnents turn. Does that allow you to play 3 lands on their turn? If no, then why not? Is there something in the rules that strictly says you can only play lands on your turn?
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3 years ago ::
Jul 22, 2010 - 2:53AM
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No. Effects which grant additional land plays only mean anything on your own turn. 305.3. A player can't play a land, for any reason, if it isn't his or her turn. Ignore any part of an effect that instructs a player to do so.
EDIT: Wow... took about 10 minutes to get this answered. The boards are REALLY slow this time of night.
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3 years ago ::
Jul 22, 2010 - 8:26AM
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However, it is important to note that the restriction is on playing lands. I'm pretty sure that a sorcery like Kodama's Reach  , with Flash , would work since you put the land onto the battlefield rather than playing it.
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3 years ago ::
Jul 22, 2010 - 8:29AM
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That's correct, nothing stops you putting land into play on an opponent's turn. As simple as Evolving Wilds  activated during your opponent's end step.
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3 years ago ::
Jul 22, 2010 - 8:35AM
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So let's say you have out a Flash Card , and play a spell like Summer Bloom on your oppnents turn. Does that allow you to play 3 lands on their turn?
If no, then why not? Is there something in the rules that strictly says you can only play lands on your turn?
Aside from the rule, there's also the fact that those 'flash cards' very specifically say 'nonland' on them, so even if there wasn't a rule, that would stop you. (Content removed)
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on Jul 22, 2010 - 05:25PM
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3 years ago ::
Jul 22, 2010 - 8:48AM
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So let's say you have out a Flash Card , and play a spell like Summer Bloom on your oppnents turn. Does that allow you to play 3 lands on their turn?
If no, then why not? Is there something in the rules that strictly says you can only play lands on your turn?
Aside from the rule, there's also the fact that those 'flash cards' very specifically say 'nonland' on them, so even if there wasn't a rule, that would stop you. (Yay reading cards?)
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He wasn't asking if he could play a land card due to the "flash card", he was asking if the sorcery he was able to play due to the flash card would let him put the land in play.
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on Jul 22, 2010 - 05:26PM
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3 years ago ::
Jul 22, 2010 - 2:51PM
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Aside from the rule, there's also the fact that those 'flash cards' very specifically say 'nonland' on them, so even if there wasn't a rule, that would stop you. (Content Removed)
Also, there is at least one way to give a land flash: Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir  will give Dryad Arbor  flash. Doing so will let you play the Arbor at unusual times during your turn (such as during combat or during your end step), but doing so still counts as your land drop for the turn (so you can't do it if you've already used up your land drop) and you still can't play the Arbor during another player's turn.
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on Jul 22, 2010 - 05:27PM
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3 years ago ::
Jul 22, 2010 - 3:02PM
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The wording of the card Summer Bloom prohibits the play anyway, doesn't it?
It says play 3 additional lands. Since you can't play the one (it being that it isn't your turn and the mechanics allow you to play a land only on your turn), you can't play any additional either.
Ockham's razor applies in this case I think. The simplest solution is usually the best.
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3 years ago ::
Jul 22, 2010 - 5:28PM
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I've removed content from this thread because Baiting/Flaming is a violation of the Code of Conduct. You can review the Code of Conduct here. Please keep your posts polite, respectful, and on-topic, and refrain from making personal attacks.
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3 years ago ::
Jul 23, 2010 - 1:20AM
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The wording of the card Summer Bloom prohibits the play anyway, doesn't it?
It says play 3 additional lands. Since you can't play the one (it being that it isn't your turn and the mechanics allow you to play a land only on your turn), you can't play any additional either.
Ockham's razor applies in this case I think. The simplest solution is usually the best.
If you have no apples, and I give you three in addition to those you already have, you have three, not zero. So your argument doesn't decide the issue. [undefined] plus 3 is still undefined, but zero plus 3 is very well-defined; it's 3.
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