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3 years ago ::
Jul 21, 2010 - 1:09AM
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I'll the adult and work away.
First off most adults were able to learn grammar in school. I will just assume you meant "I'll be the adult and walk away." Fair enough. Except that saying that is an oxymoron, if you truely meant it you would not have posted it. So much for maturity.
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3 years ago ::
Jul 21, 2010 - 1:14AM
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Please keep your posts polite, respectful, and on-topic, and refrain from making personal attacks.
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3 years ago ::
Jul 21, 2010 - 1:27AM
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Date Joined:
Jul 21, 2010
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Am I the only one who is sick of this column not even being remotely budget? This week, 8 mythics and 8 rares. You can go back for a while and see it's about the same. Plus, I disagree with posting a standard deck that will be completely neutered in 2 months. I just don't think this column reaches a true "budget" audience anymore. Past authors were extremely careful not to go over more than a couple of play sets of rares. The budget deck would be tested, then, more expensive swaps would be suggested, even to include non-standard, less expensive choices. i.e. building the deck list with Volcanic Fallout, then recommending Earthquake as standard or a cheaper Molten Disaster for casual. Don't get me wrong, this is my favorite column on this site. The structure, playtesting, deck ideas are top-notch, but just not budget.
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3 years ago ::
Jul 21, 2010 - 1:43AM
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Date Joined:
Aug 11, 2009
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Yes, JVL's sideboards can be considered non-budget, but they are extremely variable based on the metagame so you might want to make your own. Pyromancer Ascension and Time Warp aren't staples, and they appear to be necessary for the deck to function.
Yes, Jacob is different than some previous authors, but I find his column rather good.
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3 years ago ::
Jul 21, 2010 - 2:57AM
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Good enjoyable deck but I agree with questions as to its budget. I quite liked it when the decks had to be built for $30 or less.
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3 years ago ::
Jul 21, 2010 - 3:28AM
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Date Joined:
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You can't ask for much more of a budget deck outside of pauper. The deck needs Time Warp to win, and it needs a full set of them. That is the most expensive card in the deck. I found Ascensions online for a quarter a piece and Earthquakes for a buck a piece. The Jaces in the SB are the next most expensive card after Time Warp (~$4.50), and those could probably be replaced with Negates or something if you can't afford it. A set of Time Warps might run you around $25-30. You could probably get all of the rares other than Jace for about $35 and trade for the rest. That's pretty good considering this is very close to an optimal list, and the main improvement (Scalding Tarn) isn't that important. The same cannot be said about almost any other deck. Either the deck is cheap, or it is optimal. It's very hard to have both.
"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead: his eyes are closed." - Albert Einstein My H/W List
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3 years ago ::
Jul 21, 2010 - 6:23AM
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Am I the only one who is sick of this column not even being remotely budget? This week, 8 mythics and 8 rares. You can go back for a while and see it's about the same. Plus, I disagree with posting a standard deck that will be completely neutered in 2 months. I just don't think this column reaches a true "budget" audience anymore. Past authors were extremely careful not to go over more than a couple of play sets of rares. The budget deck would be tested, then, more expensive swaps would be suggested, even to include non-standard, less expensive choices. i.e. building the deck list with Volcanic Fallout, then recommending Earthquake as standard or a cheaper Molten Disaster for casual. Don't get me wrong, this is my favorite column on this site. The structure, playtesting, deck ideas are top-notch, but just not budget.
Ignoring what is legal in standard because it is relatively short is silly. It is even sillier considering this deck revisits a past deck. If you already acquired time warps and the ascensions because you liked the idea in the past, this is a very affordable way to get the most out of them while you still can.
Finally, comparing what Jacob has to deal with to past authors is pointless. Past authors didn't have to deal with budgets in a world of multiple $60+ mythics in standard. It is unreasonable to expect that week in and week out, Jacob can come up with a deck that beats Jace 2.0 decks and costs less than half of one of their Jaces. If it beats Jace and costs less than Jace, that is budget.
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3 years ago ::
Jul 21, 2010 - 6:30AM
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Good enjoyable deck but I agree with questions as to its budget. I quite liked it when the decks had to be built for $30 or less.
This was based on MTGO and pre-shards. A lot has changed since then, and that author was building decks for the MTGO casual room.
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3 years ago ::
Jul 21, 2010 - 6:37AM
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After ZEN came out, I made a Grixis Ascension deck that WAS budget.
The win was (unsurprisingly) Cruel Ultimatum.
I don't like the infy Time Warp decks. I never really did. I have played against Naya Charm ascension before. Never before has siding in Swerve  been so utterly backbreaking. (I was playing a different grixis at the time)
For the deck to be good, it needs to be able to win without Ascension.
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3 years ago ::
Jul 21, 2010 - 6:57AM
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Date Joined:
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