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3 years ago  ::  Jun 23, 2010 - 5:29PM #1
Garmichael
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This thread is for discussion of this week's Top Decks Article, which goes live Thursday morning on magicthegathering.com.
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3 years ago  ::  Jun 23, 2010 - 9:59PM #2
Raedien
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JACEJACEJACEJACEJACE
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3 years ago  ::  Jun 23, 2010 - 10:13PM #3
Phantom_of_the_FNM
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"But what happens when Noah casts Sovereigns of Lost Alara pre-combat, while his opponent is tapped?
That's right: "16" happens."
Let's see:
Gideon activates, becomes a 6/6. He attacks alone, and the exalted on Sovereigns activates, making him 7/7. Then you search up Eldrazi Conscription, and attach it to gideon, who gets +10/+10, trample, and annihilator 2.
6+1+10=17. Not 16.
People always seem to forget about the Exalted on Sovereigns of Lost Alara.
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Aug 30, 2011 -- 5:59PM, metallix87 wrote:

Aug 30, 2011 -- 5:47PM, ChaosLight wrote:

Even metallix is gone now.


I'm right here.

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3 years ago  ::  Jun 23, 2010 - 10:26PM #4
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My brain just exploded.

Taking all of the best decks in the formate and mashing them together is pretty sweet. 
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3 years ago  ::  Jun 23, 2010 - 10:48PM #5
theScion
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Fun and diverse Standards? Did he not just say standard is devolving into "one big deck"? How is that diverse? Notice how he didn't mention any decks that DO NOT PLAY MYTHICS. The power of mythics is such that if you throw them into any deck, you have an effective, 'hybrid' strategy. This standard stinks to high heaven and the piles of t*rds have  red-colored expansion symbols.

There's another game out there that has this battle plan. It begins with a "Y" and rhymes with "Stunk-i-o"

Bennie Smith is right. The mythic problem is rampant, and these Flores-lauded 'hybrid' strategies are just the next step in the creation of the mythic black hole. Look close you can see the event horizon glowing in the distance.

Here's hoping Scars gives us something fun to play.
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3 years ago  ::  Jun 23, 2010 - 11:45PM #6
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Jun 23, 2010 -- 10:48PM, theScion wrote:

Fun and diverse Standards? Did he not just say standard is devolving into "one big deck"? How is that diverse? Notice how he didn't mention any decks that DO NOT PLAY MYTHICS. The power of mythics is such that if you throw them into any deck, you have an effective, 'hybrid' strategy. This standard stinks to high heaven and the piles of t*rds have  red-colored expansion symbols.

There's another game out there that has this battle plan. It begins with a "Y" and rhymes with "Stunk-i-o"

Bennie Smith is right. The mythic problem is rampant, and these Flores-lauded 'hybrid' strategies are just the next step in the creation of the mythic black hole. Look close you can see the event horizon glowing in the distance.

Here's hoping Scars gives us something fun to play.





Not to mention that EVERY deck had Cheaty-Face-Vine and/or Jace, the Format-Sculptor in it.

I'm getting REALLY tired of being told that I MUST-MUST-MUST play one or both of these creatures if I want to make it to Top 8 now days.

Jace in Jund...... COME ON..... REALLY?!?!

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3 years ago  ::  Jun 24, 2010 - 1:34AM #7
Greedisgood
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Thirteen year old Noah Walker produced a deck that went undefeated in  the Swiss before finishing an impressive second place.




This guy must have rich parents when he can afford a 400-500$ deck at 13. ;P

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3 years ago  ::  Jun 24, 2010 - 1:50AM #8
Tat
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I gotta agree with theScion, at least partly. On the other hand, that "one big deck" isn't just one single deck like Psychatog-Upheavel or Affinity, but instead a family of similar-themed but diverse in terms of card choice. I certainly like this Standard much more than Mirrodin and Lorwyn, a bit more than Kamigawa and Time Spiral, but Ravnica was still way better.

Back when Ravnica was around, the ten guilds created a distinctly diverse metagame. There was a perfect amount of hybridization - You could play a Selesnya-Orzhov deck instead of pure Orzhov, but you wouldn't go as far as including the best card (Say Loxodon Hierarch) in every deck from Gruul to Izzet. Cards like Umezawa's Jitta, Tarmagoyf, Jace and Vengevine do exactly this, and they make the metagame more monotonous by showing up way too often.

Besides this, having power cards that too many decks would like to include makes its price go sky-rocket. Back in Ravnica I acquired over half a playset of the dual lands, because my budget allowed that to happen. Now I've decided never to touch any of those $30+ money cards, and mostly only work with the uncommons/commons and the dollar rares - I don't know about you all, but they've been getting less of my money since they started to print overpowered cards at mythic rarity. That's of course, a reason why I've been less involved in today's Standard than back then.

Edit: Btw, I got to say that the thirteen-year-old impressed me. Admit it or not, but it is a heck of a mental challenge competing at a high level.
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3 years ago  ::  Jun 24, 2010 - 2:47AM #9
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Coming Soon.... NEXT LEVEL MYTHIC CONSCRIJACEJUNDREDGEVOPTERDEPTHS!!!

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Jul 28, 2010 -- 12:53AM, Detektor wrote:

I just love how focused the YMtC community is.

Jul 28, 2010 -- 7:49PM, The_Anti_Body wrote:

That's what I love about posting on these forums. Everyone's an expert(except for me).

Aug 4, 2010 -- 3:11PM, razorborne wrote:

really no need to be so bitchy.

Aug 4, 2010 -- 9:50PM, JohnnyValdez wrote:

@Edacade: Awright kid you go on ahead and do your thing and don't let anyone tell you different y'hear

Aug 13, 2010 -- 2:34PM, febbstalicious42 wrote:

City of Asymmetrical Beings
Land
, sacrifice a creature: Destroy target creature with the same converted mana cost as the sacrificed creature.

Jul 30, 2010 -- 4:20PM, RPJesus wrote:

Jul 30, 2010 -- 4:07PM, Mown wrote:

Might I just interject that making this a meme is the worst idea in magic in my opinion. It is too overpowered. It encourages cheating it in play. Essentially 99/100 times it is cheated in play instead of hardcast. Not only that, but you essentially win when it comes into play.



Aug 14, 2010 -- 10:31PM, CityofAs wrote:

Aug 14, 2010 -- 9:29PM, DrJWilson wrote:

Aug 13, 2010 -- 6:05PM, CityofAs wrote:


Make five-color hybrid tribal instant with buyback, kicker, cycling, card draw, token production, a steal effect, alternate casting cost and landfall that embodies the love that your mom and I share.



I think you just killed all chances of my card being elegant.

Ardency :1mana::symwu::symbr:
Tribal Instant - Soldier
You may have target opponent gain control of 3 permanents you control rather than pay ~'s mana cost.
As an additional cost to cast ~, choose two creatures you control, and sacrifice the rest. If you control a soldier, you can't sacrifice permanents this turn.
Landfall - If you had a land enter the battlefield under your control this turn, instead choose 4 creatures.
Kicker
You get an emblem with "As long as you control both chosen creatures, they have protection from everything."
If ~ was kicked, creatures you control get +1/+1 for each creature card in your graveyard until end of turn.
Cycling :2mana:
When you cycle ~, put two 2/2 Soldier creatures onto the battlefield.

Would this EVER fit on a card?~


Aside from a few wording mishaps (should say "each chosen creature" because it's not necessarily two) this is nice. Very simple and elegant. I like the alternate cost a lot, and the kicker goes nicely with the sacrifice. However, the cycling seems a bit powerful (4 power and a card for 3? Cycling is supposed be ba d . 8/10

EDIT: Just looked up "ardency". Lol.

Aug 30, 2010 -- 8:09PM, Ragnarokio wrote:

Aug 30, 2010 -- 6:21PM, CityofAs wrote:

Aug 29, 2010 -- 9:51PM, Niklor wrote:

Aug 29, 2010 -- 7:59PM, CityofAs wrote:

I'm immortalized too as long as no one deletes this post!



But in the shadow of the great one lurked many who sought to partake of his eternal glory.



Since when am I "many"?



You're a whole damn city.

Sep 6, 2010 -- 4:51PM, CityofAs wrote:

Sep 6, 2010 -- 4:47PM, Pacific_Ninja wrote:

Sep 6, 2010 -- 4:42PM, CityofAs wrote:

Sep 6, 2010 -- 4:40PM, Pacific_Ninja wrote:

Sep 6, 2010 -- 4:35PM, CityofAs wrote:

Ahem.

Aug 30, 2010 -- 10:46PM, JohnnyValdez wrote:

Vivisect 
Sorcery
As an additional cost to cast Vivisect, sacrifice a creature.
Draw three cards.
"For the sake of humanity," the surgeon whispered. The knife had never felt heavier in his hand.


I don't think a world that sacrifices so much would want to stop the making of children .



Vivisect =/= vasectomy


Now I just feel silly.


Sep 17, 2010 -- 3:36PM, zammm wrote:

I read over two hundred webcomics on a regular basis. "Terrible" doesn't even begin to describe me.

Sep 20, 2010 -- 10:20PM, Maraxas-of-Keld wrote:

Sep 20, 2010 -- 10:11PM, CityofAs wrote:

I think that this is the first wizards-community thread that actually made me laugh out loud. Maraxas, I love you.




Sep 7, 2012 -- 6:24PM, Ragnarokio wrote:

batman is a jerk in all of my dreams


mafia is fun so play it
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3 years ago  ::  Jun 24, 2010 - 3:38AM #10
Paralistalon
Date Joined: Jul 10, 2003
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The Deck:

Mythic (mana accel)- lotus cobra and noble hierarch
UW Control (planesewalkers)- jace, gideon, elspeth
Naya (creatures)- vengevine, baneslayer angel, knight of the reliquary + 8 fetchlands
Conscription (combo)- sovereigns and conscription

Put them all in a blender along with your wallet and puree until you win the most expensive and boring standard ever. 
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