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3 years ago  ::  Jun 27, 2010 - 1:53AM #71
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Jun 27, 2010 -- 1:07AM, bughferd wrote:

The old verssion used cascade too the deck was made up of just swans assault B-blast and 3cc cascades deck was pretty reliable but easy to shut down.

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What I meant was, there was a Swans Combo deck in TSP/LOR Standard. It utilized the TSP land with Dredge, in order to keep blasting the Swans repeatedly. It also used the TSP land with Transmute, to find the other land. Then you just had to get Swans and Assault into play without either being removed.

The upside was that you could run things like Thoughtseize and stuff to defend itself while setting up the combo. The downside was that you had to run a ton of tutors, such as Beseech the Queen in order to set up the combo. Cascade is somewhat more handy.

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3 years ago  ::  Jun 27, 2010 - 3:20AM #72
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Jun 26, 2010 -- 1:46PM, AlienFinger79 wrote:

Today, I thought of something that we may have to pay attention to, if nothing else then because it's neat and cheap - something lots of people could want to play.

4x Treasure Hunt
4x Seismic Assault
6x 3cc cascaders
46 lands (preferably enough filters to reliably go t2 Treasure Hunt -> t3 Assault, and 4x Reliquary Tower (though colourless hurts))

...yeah.

You basically mulligan aggressively until you find a Hunt or a cascader, then draw tons of lands as well as either an Assault or another Hunt (or cascader), in which case you go again.

It fizzles when you hit an Assault without having enough lands to kill your opponent.

It's probably too slow, though, and it can't afford to have anti-creature defenses for obvious reasons. It loses to counterspells, for even more obvious reasons. It runs the risk of fizzling. I probably wouldn't play it myself, but it seems like the type of deck that Mike Flores would go crazy over. He, and everyone else so inclined, can do so in the thread I made for it in the Deck Help section.

Just wanted to put it out there.

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3 years ago  ::  Jun 27, 2010 - 6:21PM #73
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I think B/W tokens and Kithkin will be the big decks in the new Extended simply because of the synergy between Windbrisk Heights and the big Eldrazi like Emrakul, the Aeons Torn . Cast is play , right?
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3 years ago  ::  Jun 28, 2010 - 1:01AM #74
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Jun 24, 2010 -- 2:29PM, james2810 wrote:

Jun 23, 2010 -- 11:08PM, SternJudge wrote:

Jun 19, 2010 -- 4:15AM, AlienFinger79 wrote:

I would like to see takes on a number of archetypes likely to see play in the new format. Studying up on these archetypes - and the cards that will make them tick - will hopefully help everyone fine-tune their decks for the coming Extended season.







A fine goal to be sure, but I just want to make absolutey certain that everyone understands just how sson 10th Edition and Time Spiral block rotate out - 1st October 2010. This new Extended format, with those sets, will exist for exactly 92 days. So I am a little concerned that you say you want to help everyone fine-tune their decks "for the coming Extended season", but then go on to mention in your posts the following cards, all of which will not be legal in the coming Extended season:

Magus of the Moon
Keldon Marauders
Tarmogoyf
Story Circle
Grove of the Burnwillows
Karplusan Forest
Brushland
Horizon Canopy
Treetop Village
Mystical Teachings

Basically, only those attending Pro-Tour Amsterdam will be playing this format while 10th and TSP are legal - if your local situation is such that you are going to play a ton of Extended between July 1st and September 30th then that's fine, good for you - but I just worry that it's slightly misleading to suggest that Magus of the Moon, Tarmogoyf and company will be relevant to "the coming Extended season".

Again, I stress that if you do plan to play a lot of Extended in the 92 days this format will exist then that's fine, I just don't want anyone to be confused and go out to buy Damnations, Ancestral Visions, Teferis, Dralnus, Extirpates, Akromas, Wraths, etc, that will have a shelf life of just 12 weeks.

Anyway, I must also address the person who, earlier in this thread, put Repeal in his Faeries list- that's Ravnica block, you won't even be able to play with that between July and September!






Umm.. werent the pain lands in tenth?

I agree though, cards need to be found to replace those in current decks, or new deck types to be developed.





Yes, they were in Tenth Edition - and Tenth Edition is rotating out with Time Spiral and all those other cards on 1st October this year, as I stated at the start of my post.

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3 years ago  ::  Jun 28, 2010 - 3:59AM #75
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What about a new boat brew/boros?
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3 years ago  ::  Jun 30, 2010 - 6:15PM #76
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I'm not going to read all 74 posts before mine, but I didn't see a mention of White Weenies? Maybe it's been a long day.

White Weenies, I predict will do very well with the new metagame.

Goldmeadow Stalwart
Knight of Meadowgrain

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3 years ago  ::  Jul 12, 2010 - 12:55PM #77
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Jun 30, 2010 -- 6:15PM, xxmarinexx1 wrote:

I'm not going to read all 74 posts before mine, but I didn't see a mention of White Weenies? Maybe it's been a long day.

White Weenies, I predict will do very well with the new metagame.

Goldmeadow Stalwart
Knight of Meadowgrain

etc...etc...



From the ML results, white weenies have been doing fair, although it's not kithkin, surprisingly.

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3 years ago  ::  Jul 15, 2010 - 2:21AM #78
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Seems that this forums is twice as dead as pre-neo-extended, haha. Anyways some other decks that would be worth testing would be B/W and G/W tokens. Both decks had good results in Lor/Ala blocks.

Also, does anyone have any tournament results?
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3 years ago  ::  Jul 15, 2010 - 10:09AM #79
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bitterblossom, marsh fliter, grave titan + bad moon, might work well...
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3 years ago  ::  Jul 15, 2010 - 7:26PM #80
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It's dead until October. The cost to getting into extended right now is still prohibitively expensive, and I know a ton of guys at my shop who plan on starting it up once the broken crap like goyf rotates out.

After the rotation, I don't think Fae is going to be as nasty as it was back in standard. Demigod/BBE/Fallout shells already wreck such a scheme, and adding fauna shaman + Vengevines into the mix makes it turn into a blowout.

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