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3 years ago ::
Jun 15, 2010 - 5:08PM
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Jun 24, 2008
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This thread is for discussion of this week's Building on a Budget, which goes live Wednesday morning on magicthegathering.com.
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3 years ago ::
Jun 15, 2010 - 9:14PM
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Jan 17, 2010
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Esper Charm is just too good to not run. Not sure what I would take out though. Great article this week Jacob.
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3 years ago ::
Jun 15, 2010 - 10:09PM
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Apr 28, 2009
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yay! hurray for the transmuter! isn't the borderposts scary with maelstorm pulse around? i run a version with 4 main deck duress, and 4 main deck spreading seas, and use inkwell leviathan instead of sphinx of the steel wind, with sculler, and wall of omens, that's 8 main deck disruption and 8 main deck cantrips....i'm shy of a removal though...
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3 years ago ::
Jun 15, 2010 - 10:29PM
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Awesome. I loved the last deck you did with Master Transmuter . This one seems just as comboriffic.
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3 years ago ::
Jun 15, 2010 - 11:23PM
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Mar 23, 2006
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so literally no protection for your 4-mana 1/2? just kinda hope they don't have any sort of answer? 'cause if they can kill it, your deck is just cheap defense and then stupidly expensive cards up top all held together by this one four-of four-mana critter that dies to about every piece of removal in the format.
120.6. Some effects replace card draws.
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3 years ago ::
Jun 15, 2010 - 11:40PM
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Jun 30, 2008
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This deck is just right. It doesn't depend on Master Transmuter in any way. It's just one of those cards that wins the game if it ever gets to use its ability. You don't have to count on that in any way. Besides, Sphinx Summoner is just so good.
The thing I like most in this deck? The combo of Transmuter with Tidehollow Sculler. Just play ther sculler and before its ability resolves bounce it again. Card == byebye.
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3 years ago ::
Jun 15, 2010 - 11:41PM
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Apr 16, 2007
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What is this "lacking cheap removal" business? Path is in most control decks, Lightning Bolt is still Lightning Bolt, Day still destroys creatures, etc.. Who is letting you keep Transmuter on the board? Don't get me wrong, I like the deck, but I want to know what happens when someone knows to shoot the thing.
Anyway, Sculler FTW.
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3 years ago ::
Jun 16, 2010 - 12:23AM
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Oct 23, 2003
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What is this "lacking cheap removal" business? Path is in most control decks, Lightning Bolt is still Lightning Bolt, Day still destroys creatures, etc.. Who is letting you keep Transmuter on the board? Don't get me wrong, I like the deck, but I want to know what happens when someone knows to shoot the thing.
Anyway, Sculler FTW.
Looks like everyone did in fact know to shoot the Master Transmuter . Doing so with Path to Exile just ramps you into Sphinx Summoner and Sharuum the Hegemon , though. Similarly, Day of Judgment is expensive, wipes out your opponent's creatures too, and you can still come back with Sharuum. Plus, if you ever fail to kill the Transmuter, then your removal largely stops working.
Lightning Bolt is really good, though. As usual. So it seems like your plan vs. Jund is to get a Sphinx of the Steel Wind into play or bust. At least Sharuum provides a good long-term plan for doing so. I'm not usually one to complain about rares in the budget decks, and I'm not arguing that this deck isn't budget. It is kind of a sad statement on the state of Standard, however, that a deck with almost all rare and mythic rare creatures, and not necessarily cheap ones, is still far cheaper than most of the dominant decks. "No $50 cards? Budget!"
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3 years ago ::
Jun 16, 2010 - 12:37AM
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Jun 14, 2006
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so literally no protection for your 4-mana 1/2? just kinda hope they don't have any sort of answer? 'cause if they can kill it, your deck is just cheap defense and then stupidly expensive cards up top all held together by this one four-of four-mana critter that dies to about every piece of removal in the format.
sphinx summoner , and sharuum the hegemon help to ensure that you've always got threats. If you read the game reports you'll see that the deck is pretty resilient to mass removal, or spot removal. I think that this is a pretty solid and innovative deck. That is what I like about the article.
What I don't like about the article is that he only has 3 game reports even though he says "I played many matches with the deck this week" and doesn't even include sideboarding in the 3 games he reports. I continue to disagree with him on what is/is not budget.
Don't be too smart to have fun
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3 years ago ::
Jun 16, 2010 - 12:45AM
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I'm not usually one to complain about rares in the budget decks, and I'm not arguing that this deck isn't budget. It is kind of a sad statement on the state of Standard, however, that a deck with almost all rare and mythic rare creatures, and not necessarily cheap ones, is still far cheaper than most of the dominant decks. "No $50 cards? Budget!"
Then again, he has a genuine interest in beating top tier decks and its a little unreasonable to do that with commons and uncommons.
This week's article was awesome. Original, three matchup reports, and very budget against what you're matched up with.
Also, to some of the whiners. He said, very specifically that he wants to play with Master Transmuter against decks that do not try to interact with their opponents board heavily, ie. Mythic. You should also note that his Transmuter blows up in a lot of those games and ends up being ok anyways. It would be pretty dumb to try to protect the Transmuter in a format with bolt, day, dust, term. The fact that it needs to be answered makes it a threat, and just like BSA you drop it on the board as is and your opponent answers it or loses.
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