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Switch to Forum Live View 4/19/2010 MM: "To Eldrazi and Back"
3 years ago  ::  Apr 16, 2010 - 12:40PM #1
Garmichael
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This thread is for discussion of this week's Making Magic, which goes live Monday morning on magicthegathering.com.
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3 years ago  ::  Apr 18, 2010 - 9:27PM #2
Daerien
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I must admit, I wasn't happy when I found out that Ulamog's Crusher got its drawback because playtesters weren't attacking with it, instead of any power level reasons.

It's basically a non-issue in duels, but it makes it a somewhat unattractive multiplayer card, which is unfortunate because the other cheap Eldrazi isn't nearly as good.
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3 years ago  ::  Apr 18, 2010 - 9:35PM #3
Zadok001
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I'm sorry, I'm confused.  Wall of Omens is white instead of blue because of *Faeries*?  Blue in Zendikar block is bad because of *Faeries*?

What, did you forget how format rotations work?  Isn't that like printing Affinity hosers in Guildpact?

Seriously, I feel like that explanation is in serious need of expansion, because right now, that just sounds like bizzaro-world MaRo.
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3 years ago  ::  Apr 18, 2010 - 9:47PM #4
Hacimen
Date Joined: Oct 23, 2006
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Apr 18, 2010 -- 9:35PM, Zadok001 wrote:

I'm sorry, I'm confused.  Wall of Omens is white instead of blue because of *Faeries*?  Blue in Zendikar block is bad because of *Faeries*?

What, did you forget how format rotations work?  Isn't that like printing Affinity hosers in Guildpact?

Seriously, I feel like that explanation is in serious need of expansion, because right now, that just sounds like bizzaro-world MaRo.




Agreed. There's supposed to be an FFL for stuff like this.

I suppose that reasoning could also be used to explain how they went from trying to tone blue down some to making it bad.

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3 years ago  ::  Apr 18, 2010 - 9:48PM #5
Katastrophe
Date Joined: Nov 29, 2007
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So Wall of Omens is white partially because of how badly (we percieved) white was doing during Lorwyn / Alara? Ouch. So what sets were developed during the time when Spreading Seas was used as "land destruction"? This'll be good.

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Thraxihumongous 4BBRRG
Legendary Creature - Giant
Haste, trample
Whenever Thraxihumongous attacks, defending player sacrifices 2 creatures.
9/9
Nooooo! I don't want to attack with my Thraxihumongous! You might block it!
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3 years ago  ::  Apr 18, 2010 - 10:03PM #6
ShardFenix
Date Joined: Mar 2, 2005
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Apr 18, 2010 -- 9:35PM, Zadok001 wrote:

I'm sorry, I'm confused.  Wall of Omens is white instead of blue because of *Faeries*?  Blue in Zendikar block is bad because of *Faeries*?

What, did you forget how format rotations work?  Isn't that like printing Affinity hosers in Guildpact?

Seriously, I feel like that explanation is in serious need of expansion, because right now, that just sounds like bizzaro-world MaRo.




There are more formats then Standard first and secondly he said blue already had Mnemonic Wall...is it really so awful white got a cantrip wall...I mean its not like UW control cares what color the wall is...

I like fun, but competitive decks.  So I might not play what is optimal but they have normally been tested to have a 2/3 winrate.
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3 years ago  ::  Apr 18, 2010 - 10:34PM #7
morticianjohn
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Apr 18, 2010 -- 9:35PM, Zadok001 wrote:

I'm sorry, I'm confused.  Wall of Omens is white instead of blue because of *Faeries*?  Blue in Zendikar block is bad because of *Faeries*?

What, did you forget how format rotations work?  Isn't that like printing Affinity hosers in Guildpact?

Seriously, I feel like that explanation is in serious need of expansion, because right now, that just sounds like bizzaro-world MaRo.




Are you referring to shattering spree which actually saw a lot of play as an affinity hoser in extended after mirrodin rotated? I never really had a problem with wall of omens being white. Anyway I think his point was that in general white was considered to be underpowered so they were coming up with ways to make it more competitive since Lorwyn. path to exile followed by baneslayer angel followed by kor firewalker and now wall of omens . They have been flooding white with good stuff recently in part due to the fact that it was so underpowered. Even with the FFL they can't balance all five colors perfectly one color will find itself in the role of "best color" while another is "worst color".

To me good cards are welcome at any time. Better late than never on shattering spree . Keep in mind that wall of blossoms would have been out of color for blue as well as they don't usually get 0/4 defenders for 2 mana let alone with a cantrip attached. The closest thing I've seen in recent memory was bonded fetch

Don't be too smart to have fun
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3 years ago  ::  Apr 18, 2010 - 10:43PM #8
FineVintage
Date Joined: Apr 15, 2006
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Apr 18, 2010 -- 9:35PM, Zadok001 wrote:

I'm sorry, I'm confused.  Wall of Omens is white instead of blue because of *Faeries*?  Blue in Zendikar block is bad because of *Faeries*?

What, did you forget how format rotations work?  Isn't that like printing Affinity hosers in Guildpact?

Seriously, I feel like that explanation is in serious need of expansion, because right now, that just sounds like bizzaro-world MaRo.




No, it does make sense. The point is to avoid too many Std seasons in a row dominated by one color.

Yes, Faeries would have rotated out by the time ZEN/ROE came in, and R&D knew that. R&D wasn't trying to hose Faeries by printing Wall of Omens in white; R&D was trying to prevent yet another consecutive season dominated by blue.

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3 years ago  ::  Apr 18, 2010 - 10:50PM #9
faisjdas
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They didn't put wall of omens in blue because faeries was around. 



All the design reasons pointed to white.  It is just that at the time in which they designed it, Blue was a dominant power, so it didn't seem like blue needed a push over the edge.   

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3 years ago  ::  Apr 18, 2010 - 11:15PM #10
space_loner
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erdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">I really enjoyed the Crusher story, I've always wondered why a mostly irrelevant line of text was on a common
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