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Oct 9, 2011 -- 7:22AM, Nighthavk wrote:

Current test list:

// Lands
    8 [M11] Island (1)
    6 [M12] Plains (1)
    4 [M11] Glacial Fortress
    4 [SOM] Seachrome Coast
    4 [DIS] Ghost Quarter

// Creatures
    4 [ISD] Snapcaster Mage
    2 [MBS] Consecrated Sphinx
    2 [SOM] Wurmcoil Engine

// Spells
    3 [M11] Day of Judgment
    2 [ROE] Gideon Jura
    3 [ARC] Oblivion Ring
    3 [NPH] Dismember
    4 [9E] Mana Leak
    4 [MI] Dissipate
    4 [TSP] Think Twice
    3 [M12] Divination

// Sideboard
SB: 1 [M11] Day of Judgment
SB: 3 [M12] Timely Reinforcements
SB: 1 [ROE] Gideon Jura
SB: 2 [SOM] Revoke Existence
SB: 4 [NPH] Gut Shot
SB: 3 [NPH] Surgical Extraction
SB: 1 [PRE] Sun Titan

i'd go with another land.  i tested both 26 and 27 lands, and 27 lands always felt better and more consistent.  you probably want negate somewhere, somehow because of snap mage.  there are a lot of very relevant non-creature spells you need countered on the cheap.  why have a sun titan in the board when its just easier to maindeck it?  i'm always very weary of actually putting finishers in the board.  you might find that purify the grave is better as GY hate, you might not.

on elspeth,  she's ok.  if i run her, its never more than 1, likely.  she can be really good in some matchups, but other times she's only ok and has bad synergy with oblivion ring.  i find gideon is just a stronger, more consistent walker.

fiend hunter is very bad in this deck.  your hunter dies and it gives them the dude back.  it basically would mean you can't play wrath anymore, and playing DOJ is a big part of WHY you would play a UW control deck.

snap is better... or not anything at all (for cheap cost dudes in this deck).

Here's my decklist, though I'm missing the actual copies of Ghost Quarter atm (they're replacing Celestial Colonnade =\
It's Venser control, with plenty of Sun Titan synergy to go along with it.

4 x Glacial Fortress
3 x Ghost Quarter
2 x Seachrome Coast
2 x Buried Ruin
6 x Island
7 x Plains

3 x Day of Judgment
4 x Oblivion Ring
4 x Mana Leak

3 x Venser, the Sojourner
2 x Gideon Jura

2 x Sun Titan
1 x Wurmcoil Engine
2 x Stonehorn Dignitary
2 x Solemn Simulacrum
4 x Fiend Hunter
4 x Blade Splicer
3 x Mentor of the Meek
2 x Phantasmal Image

(24 Lands, 11 Spells, 5 Planeswalkers, 20 Creatures. No real sideboard tbh)

Thoughts? I haven't had too much testing opportunity, but I think it will fair a lot better than it was before...

Oct 12, 2011 -- 9:34AM, jpd5184 wrote:

why does it seem nobody is playing Baneslayer Angel or everflowing chalice.

is phantasmal worth it as well?

Because they rotated out with M11/Worldwake. If they were still in, i'd probably use one or both myself. 

That is the Caw Blade deck from the last Standard Rotation jpd. The current sets that are legal are M12, Scars of mirrodin block, and Innistrad. Zendikar and M11 cards are illegal. Not to mention, Jace the Mind Sculptor was banned before Zendikar rotated...

Knight of the White orchid was from Shards block for pete's sake, TWO rotations ago!