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3 years ago ::
Apr 11, 2010 - 12:43PM
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Hello folks!
Can anyone explain how Rebound works?
Does the spell happen, as in happen happens, the turn you cast it...or it only resolve when the next upkeep comes, and, if you want to.
The reminder text is quite confusing for me, sorry. It says... "If you cast this spell from your hand, exile it as it resolves. At the beginning of your next upkeep, you may cast this card from exile without paying its mana cost."
I'm guessing the spell will only happen happen the next upkeep...
Thanks~!!
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3 years ago ::
Apr 11, 2010 - 12:49PM
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Date Joined:
Sep 17, 2005
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happen happen? What?
We won't know exactly how it works until the FAQ and rules update are released.
However, one of the MtG articles about the new set describes it like this:
"As you can see, Prey's Vengeance can be cast normally, and once your next upkeep rolls around, it will "rebound" back to be cast again, if you so desire.
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3 years ago ::
Apr 11, 2010 - 1:07PM
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Date Joined:
Sep 16, 2007
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Hello folks!
Can anyone explain how Rebound works?
Does the spell happen, as in happen happens, the turn you cast it...or it only resolve when the next upkeep comes, and, if you want to.
The reminder text is quite confusing for me, sorry. It says... "If you cast this spell from your hand, exile it as it resolves. At the beginning of your next upkeep, you may cast this card from exile without paying its mana cost."
I'm guessing the spell will only happen happen the next upkeep...
Thanks~!!
If you're exiling it as it resolves, that means it's resolving. That means it has its effect.
MTG Rules Advisor 
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3 years ago ::
Apr 11, 2010 - 1:21PM
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Hello folks!
Can anyone explain how Rebound works?
Does the spell happen, as in happen happens, the turn you cast it...or it only resolve when the next upkeep comes, and, if you want to.
The reminder text is quite confusing for me, sorry. It says... "If you cast this spell from your hand, exile it as it resolves. At the beginning of your next upkeep, you may cast this card from exile without paying its mana cost."
I'm guessing the spell will only happen happen the next upkeep...
Thanks~!!
The spell as you say "happens" happens(possibly) twice, as it is being cast twice(if you choose to cast it again after it has been exiled). Once when you initially cast it from your hand (it is exiled from the rebound's replacement effect) and then you can cast it again at the beginning of your next upkeep should you choose so via rebounds second sentence.
In short, the spell is being cast twice (if you choose to cast it from exile)
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3 years ago ::
Apr 11, 2010 - 2:05PM
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Date Joined:
Mar 13, 2004
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The reminder text isn't confusion, it clearly states how the ability works.
YOu cast it from your hand, exiling it as it resolves.
Then at the beginning of your next upkeep, you cast it again.
Because the second time it's cast, it isn't cast form your hand, it isn't exiled.
Simple and straight forward.
… and then, the squirrels came.
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3 years ago ::
Apr 11, 2010 - 3:49PM
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Date Joined:
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I think "resolve" might be the rules word to what you describe as "happen".
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3 years ago ::
Apr 12, 2010 - 3:50AM
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Mark Rosewater's article that was posted this morning, On the Rise, Part III clarifies the purpose of rebound. He said, "Rebound is essentially instants and sorceries that 'go off' twice, once this turn and once at the beginning of your next upkeep." The reminder text isn't confusion, it clearly states how the ability works.
YOu cast it from your hand, exiling it as it resolves.
Then at the beginning of your next upkeep, you cast it again.
Because the second time it's cast, it isn't cast form your hand, it isn't exiled.
Simple and straight forward.
Sorry, but the reminder text is misleading.
Rebound appears meant to exile the card as the last effect of the spell resolving, but the reminder text, "If you cast this spell from your hand, exile it as it resolves. At the beginning of your next upkeep, you may cast this card from exile without paying its mana cost," sounds more like exiling the card is the first effect of the spell resolving.
If it would exile itself first then it would remove itself from the stack. With the spell off the stack before any other lines of text resolved, those later lines would not resolve unless they were clearly effects or abilities that would be active in the exile zone, such as suspend or rebound. So the spell would not resolve any ordinary effects if cast from hand. Hence, Muchi's interpretation that the spell would have its ordinary effects only during the next upkeep does fit the reminder text.
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3 years ago ::
Apr 12, 2010 - 3:52AM
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Sorry, but the reminder text is misleading.
Rebound appears meant to exile the card as the last effect of the spell resolving, but the reminder text, "If you cast this spell from your hand, exile it as it resolves. At the beginning of your next upkeep, you may cast this card from exile without paying its mana cost," sounds more like exiling the card is the first effect of the spell resolving.
If it would exile itself first then it would remove itself from the stack. With the spell off the stack before any other lines of text resolved, those later lines would not resolve unless they were clearly effects or abilities that would be active in the exile zone, such as suspend or rebound. So the spell would not resolve any ordinary effects if cast from hand. Hence, Muchi's interpretation that the spell would have its ordinary effects only during the next upkeep does fit the reminder text.
You never resolve part of a spell of ability, it either resolves or it doesn't. The reminder text isn't misleading at all.
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3 years ago ::
Apr 12, 2010 - 4:30AM
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Date Joined:
Feb 18, 2008
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Sorry, you never resolve part of a spell of ability, it either resolves or it doesn't. The reminder text isn't misleading at all.
I should have checked the rules first, because they agree with Dekz about trying to resolve completely.
608.2j If an instant spell, sorcery spell, or ability that can legally resolve leaves the stack once it starts to resolve, it will continue to resolve fully.
But I am more accustomed to the rule that says that sometimes a spell cannot resolve completely.
609.3. If an effect attempts to do something impossible, it does only as much as possible.
Example: If a player is holding only one card, an effect that reads "Discard two cards" causes him or her to discard only that card. If an effect moves cards out of the library (as opposed to drawing), it moves as many as possible.
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3 years ago ::
Apr 12, 2010 - 8:09AM
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Date Joined:
Mar 13, 2004
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Some cards (Like Time stop) exile themselves halfway thorugh their resolution. They still resolve.
Once the process begins, it ends.
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Anyways, Buyback modifies where a card ends up after it resolves, they'll probally template it like that.
… and then, the squirrels came.
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