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3 years ago  ::  Jul 01, 2010 - 5:11AM #711
Bluuegg
Date Joined: Jun 30, 2009
Posts: 202

Just wanted to throw my decklist up here to see what you guys think...i havent seen alot use Abyssal Persecutor , but i have had alot of luck running him.

Abyssal Persecutor
3 Drana, Kalastria Bloodchief
2 Terra Stomper
3 Putrid Leech
3 Fleshbag Marauder
4 Birds of Paradise
2 Lotus Cobra

3 Momentous Fall
3 Prey's Vengeance
3 Inquisition of Kozilek
3 Doom Blade
3 Consuming Vapors

1 Sigil of Distinction
1 Garruk Wildspeaker

4 Verdant Catacombs
2 Savage Lands
8 Swamp
8 Forest

--SB--

3 Malakir Bloodwitch
3 Black Knight
3 Assassinate
3 Viscera Dragger
3 Consume the Meek

i have only played the deck a couple times at my FNMs. taking 3rd and 2nd out of 24 in AZ. while taking two 4th places out of 13 in Ohio.

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3 years ago  ::  Jul 01, 2010 - 5:49AM #712
crebold
Date Joined: Mar 15, 2010
Posts: 89

Jul 1, 2010 -- 5:11AM, Bluuegg wrote:

Just wanted to throw my decklist up here to see what you guys think...i havent seen alot use Abyssal Persecutor , but i have had alot of luck running him.

Abyssal Persecutor
3 Drana, Kalastria Bloodchief
2 Terra Stomper
3 Putrid Leech
3 Fleshbag Marauder
4 Birds of Paradise
2 Lotus Cobra

3 Momentous Fall
3 Prey's Vengeance
3 Inquisition of Kozilek
3 Doom Blade
3 Consuming Vapors

1 Sigil of Distinction
1 Garruk Wildspeaker

4 Verdant Catacombs
2 Savage Lands
8 Swamp
8 Forest

--SB--

3 Malakir Bloodwitch
3 Black Knight
3 Assassinate
3 Viscera Dragger
3 Consume the Meek

i have only played the deck a couple times at my FNMs. taking 3rd and 2nd out of 24 in AZ. while taking two 4th places out of 13 in Ohio.


I could be way way off base here but -3 Inquisition, -2 Terra Stomper, +1 Thornling, +4 Mind Shatter (or a +2 Thornling +3 Mind Shatter which might actually be better). Duress or kozilek are so limited in application atm as to be kind of poor in most lists that I've seen, I'd consider 3 Duress in the board but not MD. As for the sideboard it really seems like you are lacking in planeswalker hate, perhaps you don't feel the need to run it but -3 Viscera Dragger +3 Vampire Hexmage seems far stronger as it gives you a much better matchup against heavy planeswalker/control lists without having to rely on beats to kill them (Elspeth comes to mind, I hate seeing her drop more than just about anything else.)

All of that said I think I prefer the GBW version which allows you to run Day of Judgment in the board and KotR maindeck. You also seem to be a bit landlite at only 22, I wouldn't run less than 24 personally.

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3 years ago  ::  Jul 01, 2010 - 6:05AM #713
Bluuegg
Date Joined: Jun 30, 2009
Posts: 202

The Inquisition is strong in my meta atleast, thats why i have it in over duress. plus i can play inquisition t1 or two, and there are alot of other things that id rather play turn 3-5 than a mind shatter (in most cases).

i never really thought about thornling...but i dont have any atm and dont want to shell out $$$ for a card that is cycling soon (i iz a cheap a**).

The Terra Stomper is actually really good, and i reccommend trying it.

i have been going back and forth on the dragger for hexmages...i WANT to get M-Pulses for this reason...but i cant afford them (see above X___X ).

about the lands...i have never had a problem running 22 lands in this deck. nothing is more than 5cc besides the stomper. and there is ramp in the deck. BUT if i did add in the two lands to make 24, what should i take out?

post appreciated =)

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3 years ago  ::  Jul 01, 2010 - 6:44AM #714
crebold
Date Joined: Mar 15, 2010
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Jul 1, 2010 -- 6:05AM, Bluuegg wrote:

The Inquisition is strong in my meta atleast, thats why i have it in over duress. plus i can play inquisition t1 or two, and there are alot of other things that id rather play turn 3-5 than a mind shatter (in most cases).

i never really thought about thornling...but i dont have any atm and dont want to shell out $$$ for a card that is cycling soon (i iz a cheap a**).

The Terra Stomper is actually really good, and i reccommend trying it.

i have been going back and forth on the dragger for hexmages...i WANT to get M-Pulses for this reason...but i cant afford them (see above X___X ).

about the lands...i have never had a problem running 22 lands in this deck. nothing is more than 5cc besides the stomper. and there is ramp in the deck. BUT if i did add in the two lands to make 24, what should i take out?

post appreciated =)


Honestly I would consider dropping Prey's Vengeance, I really just have not enjoyed playing any type of pump spell effect in Standard. I'm sure it can come in handy sometimes but I'd rather hit my land drops more consistently which I just don't see happening with 22 lands. I mean I run 24 lands even in Devestating Red and still manage to miss a land drop every other game or so. That and as much as I like momentous fall it has seemed clunky in my lists before. I'll have to put my Rock list back together on MTGO and try running some different things.

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3 years ago  ::  Jul 01, 2010 - 10:21AM #715
Bluuegg
Date Joined: Jun 30, 2009
Posts: 202
Momentous fall is effing amazing in this deck imo. also it gets rid of my abyssal persecutor for the win. it is solid
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3 years ago  ::  Jul 01, 2010 - 10:26AM #716
Shadow9019
Date Joined: Sep 29, 2009
Posts: 23
Hey, anyone seen the preview for Grave Titan in 2011?

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Grave Titan
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Deathtouch
When Grave Titan enters the battlefield or attacks, put two 2/2 black zombie creature tokens onto the battlefield.


I think he'd fit perfectly into a lot of builds as a finisher or at least become the giant target the opponent uses their removal on...thoughts?
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3 years ago  ::  Jul 01, 2010 - 1:49PM #717
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I only see the Titan taking the place of something a little more game-breaking, like a Wolfbriar Elemental which has more potential spread out over more area. 6 mana for 10 power that quickly drops to 4 (Grave Titan) or 6 mana for 8 power that generally sticks(Briar)? The target painted on GTs back is a bit too much heat for me, and a fixed cost is never tons of fun either. This logic sounds really narrow even to me, but in the end I say not a maindeck threat. Bloodwitch is the better black bomb.
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May 12, 2010 -- 1:15PM, Master_Yumyums wrote:

May 12, 2010 -- 12:14PM, ong312 wrote:

grandma pumps the threat she ramps.



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    Jun 30, 2010 -- 1:35AM, S1AL wrote:

    Playing a bad deck in order to be original is like using crappy tools to build something. Not only does it look bad in the end, but nobody really thinks that you're cool for being unwilling to do things the way a professional would.


Look at the card. Now back to Jace. Now back to that card, now back to Jace! Sadly, it isn't Jace, but if it stopped being a junk rare and became relevant, it could act like it's Jace. Crack some Worldwake. What do you have? You have a Jace, the card you wish this card could be like. Look again. THE CARD IS NOW A $75 BILL. Anything possible when you play Magic with Jace and not junk rares.
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3 years ago  ::  Jul 01, 2010 - 1:53PM #718
Zigeif777
Date Joined: Jan 12, 2010
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Jun 21, 2010 -- 11:38AM, Shadow9019 wrote:

Hey all, I just wanted to post my current build to get some critiques. I'm very budget constrained at the moment, so I don't have all the cards yet but this is what I'm trying to build without spending a fortune (Hence no white splash). Please let me know what you think!

Creatures (19):
4x Birds of Paradise
4x Lotus Cobra
4x Vampire Nighthawk
3x Master of the Wild Hunt
2x Drana, Kalastria Bloodchief
2x Rampaging Baloths

Spells (16):
4x Maelstrom Pulse
3x Mind Shatter
3x Inquistion of Kozilek
3x Consuming Vapors
3x Garruk Wildspeaker

Land (25):
4x Verdant Catacombs
3x Marsh Flats
3x Misty Rainforest
1x Oran-rief, the Vastwood
7x Forest
7x Swamp




looks good personally, I prefer Malakir Bloodwitch over drana but its your deck and metagame. Also, maybe lose the Inquisitions. I'd opt for Wolfbriar Elemental.

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May 12, 2010 -- 1:15PM, Master_Yumyums wrote:

May 12, 2010 -- 12:14PM, ong312 wrote:

grandma pumps the threat she ramps.



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    Jun 30, 2010 -- 1:35AM, S1AL wrote:

    Playing a bad deck in order to be original is like using crappy tools to build something. Not only does it look bad in the end, but nobody really thinks that you're cool for being unwilling to do things the way a professional would.


Look at the card. Now back to Jace. Now back to that card, now back to Jace! Sadly, it isn't Jace, but if it stopped being a junk rare and became relevant, it could act like it's Jace. Crack some Worldwake. What do you have? You have a Jace, the card you wish this card could be like. Look again. THE CARD IS NOW A $75 BILL. Anything possible when you play Magic with Jace and not junk rares.
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3 years ago  ::  Jul 01, 2010 - 9:04PM #719
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The Bloodwitches are sideboarded for thw white matchups. I'm not a big fan of Wolfbriar in non-mono green decks either. I know the deck can produce a ton of mana but I'd have to do some testing before I commited to him.
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3 years ago  ::  Jul 01, 2010 - 11:07PM #720
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Date Joined: Sep 14, 2009
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Okay, this is my finalized list I'll be using before Shards rotates. I guess it's really a Knightfall Deck, but that thread is dead. 

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Not going to buy Pulse, Cobra, or Path at this point. Other than that it's been pretty good so far. After trying every kind of ramp, I've found Realms Uncharted is the best with KotR. Feeds the graveyard, gives card advantage, thins my deck, etc... it really is a good card. Grim Discovery offers a bit of mana fixing that you don't get with tri-lands (or Cobra), plus recursion. The rest is pretty straight-foward. My local shop just started doing constructed at FNM, so I've got 2 or so months to get the most out of the deck.

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