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3 years ago ::
Mar 11, 2010 - 1:24PM
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I'm pretty new to magic and I was looking over Matt Nass' Elves deck from the GP. I understand the combo for the most part, throw out elves, use them to tap for mana, then draw off each one with glimse. So he can draw through his deck and flood the board. But then how does it win? All the creatures on the board do little if they are tapped for mana and don't have haste. He says he won most of his games by comboing out on turn 3 or something, but what is the finisher in the combo? What am I missing? Thanks
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3 years ago ::
Mar 11, 2010 - 2:26PM
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Sep 10, 2009
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he can always attack the next turn.
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3 years ago ::
Mar 11, 2010 - 3:39PM
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Jul 19, 2007
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You can also draw through your whole deck via Glimpse of Nature and Cloudstone Curio, then infinitely recur Primal Command.
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3 years ago ::
Mar 12, 2010 - 12:42PM
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Date Joined:
Aug 14, 2006
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he can always attack the next turn.
Really is that it? It seems pretty vulnerable then. Oh you just drew through your deck and played all your creatures, so I play earthquake or judgment day and i win right?
Also, how does the recurring primal command work. If you chose to shuffle your graveyard into your library, it is still on the stack when your graveyard is shuffled so it is not shuffled back in right? Besides how does recurring it help you win?
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3 years ago ::
Mar 12, 2010 - 12:45PM
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Date Joined:
Oct 10, 2007
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he can always attack the next turn.
Really is that it? It seems pretty vulnerable then. Oh you just drew through your deck and played all your creatures, so I play earthquake or judgment day and i win right?
Also, how does the recurring primal command work. If you chose to shuffle your graveyard into your library, it is still on the stack when your graveyard is shuffled so it is not shuffled back in right? Besides how does recurring it help you win?
No one plays DoJ or earthquake.
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3 years ago ::
Mar 12, 2010 - 12:54PM
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Dec 14, 2008
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Unless they're also running Wrath
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3 years ago ::
Mar 12, 2010 - 2:15PM
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Date Joined:
Jul 19, 2007
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he can always attack the next turn.
Really is that it? It seems pretty vulnerable then. Oh you just drew through your deck and played all your creatures, so I play earthquake or judgment day and i win right?
Also, how does the recurring primal command work. If you chose to shuffle your graveyard into your library, it is still on the stack when your graveyard is shuffled so it is not shuffled back in right? Besides how does recurring it help you win?
You recur Primal Command by reusing Eternal Witness via Cloudstone Curio. Command stops you from decking yourself from Glimpse of Nature triggers and bounces all of their lands so they can't wipe the board. You can also just gain infinite life, but the first kill is probably safer.
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3 years ago ::
Mar 13, 2010 - 7:37PM
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Aug 14, 2006
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he can always attack the next turn.
Really is that it? It seems pretty vulnerable then. Oh you just drew through your deck and played all your creatures, so I play earthquake or judgment day and i win right?
Also, how does the recurring primal command work. If you chose to shuffle your graveyard into your library, it is still on the stack when your graveyard is shuffled so it is not shuffled back in right? Besides how does recurring it help you win?
No one plays DoJ or earthquake.
I dont see why people would not run DoJ or Wrath of god or whatever board wiper.
So then what will Elves do when Eternal witness rotates out next block? Just rely on the opponent not having a board wipe?
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3 years ago ::
Mar 13, 2010 - 8:04PM
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Jul 19, 2007
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I imagine they'd incorporate some other win condition like Grapeshot or splash Black for Tar Fiend.
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3 years ago ::
Mar 13, 2010 - 8:52PM
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Oct 10, 2007
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I imagine they'd incorporate some other win condition like Grapeshot or splash Black for Tar Fiend.
Can't they still just do the Chord of calling+predator dragon kill?
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