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Flag Layton March 18, 2010 1:24 PM PDT
well,about the history,i think they are going to use jace potter,you know,because kids looooove planeswalkers and here i rule things.
and for all the ones who are complaining about mirrodin,¿dont you see?
¿remember future sight?.¿you remember right?
just remember this cards.and think.
we all know that another mirrodin set will come,you know,because of darksteel garrison and
steamflogger boss.
but think,just think.
if mirrodin is the next set,¿what will come then?,maybe dominaria again,maybe another snow plane,maybe a continuation for ravnica(that will be great)
maybe even will see the power of muraganda,and obviously,tarmogoyf.
all future cards we all se,will be printed,so,just think about it.
leave the standard if you like,but im only going to leave magic when they make something idiot like print that sixth color(well,if is brown again maybe not XD,but i dont see what could represent).
Flag graciejitsu March 18, 2010 1:46 PM PDT

Mar 18, 2010 -- 12:26PM, Yhippa wrote:

I left during Darksteel mostly because I got out of college and didn't have time/interest to play.  Does anybody have a synopsis of what went down during Mirrodin?


Hi Yhippa. If you want some history on Mirrodin and some of the mechanics that were used in that block, you can go here. For more available websites with Mirrodin history, please click here. I set the links to pop-up in a new window so you may have to enable temporary pop-ups in your browser to be able to read the material. I hope this helps and I hope you enjoy not only the current Standard blocks, but the upcoming Rise of the Eldrazi, M11 and Scars of Mirrodin sets all due out this year. Happy Gathering!

Flag Gilgiga March 18, 2010 1:50 PM PDT

Mar 18, 2010 -- 1:19PM, gankutsuou wrote:

Going back to mirrodin is cool, but PLEASE LEAVE AFFINITY OUT. 8)




Everyone moaning about affinity.

No one ever called for Frogmites banning, or Myr Enforcer. Affinity wasn't the power house in that deck it was the Desciple of the Vault/Ravenger interaction. Affinity happened to be on some of the cards.

Everyone hates affinity, but the most hated card in the deck had Modular, a mechanic mostly no one cares about.

Flag royinator March 18, 2010 2:17 PM PDT
calling the art as a new platinum angel
Flag Sheepskate March 18, 2010 3:51 PM PDT
I was just telling one of my friends that Magic should go back to Kamigawa or Mirrodin, and what happens?  they go back to Mirrodin, I swear,  Magic has a spy network in my head....
Flag tressym69 March 18, 2010 4:12 PM PDT

Mar 18, 2010 -- 1:50PM, Gilgiga wrote:

Mar 18, 2010 -- 1:19PM, gankutsuou wrote:

Going back to mirrodin is cool, but PLEASE LEAVE AFFINITY OUT. 8)


Everyone moaning about affinity.

No one ever called for Frogmites banning, or Myr Enforcer. Affinity wasn't the power house in that deck it was the Desciple of the Vault/Ravenger interaction. Affinity happened to be on some of the cards.

Everyone hates affinity, but the most hated card in the deck had Modular, a mechanic mostly no one cares about.


I loved Mirrodin block, just not how imbalanced/extreme it went, I am looking forward to going back to see what has happened.   

I'm going to the other side here and saying I really like Affinity for the incredible synergy that each card in the deck has for each other, so much synergy that it does become imbalanced if not checked by turn four maybe five.  To paraphrase MaRo, too much synergy in this case was/is a bad thing; however, the Johnny/Spike in me just does not care, I get to smash face and WIN.

I think the truly broken power comes from those innocent looking artifact lands... without those lands Affinity would not have been a true powerhouse.  The interaction of Disciple of the Vault and Arcbound Ravager, while overpowered, was not broken unless you have a bunch of Artifact Lands to sacrifice.  If you don’t believe me that Artifact Lands are the key, just try playing extended Affinity right now with only basic lands, Glimmervoid, and Blinkmoth Nexus for your mana base.  This gutted version of Affinity might still be a playable deck but it will never be anything close to a tier one worthy powerhouse.

Cheers,

Tressym69

Flag willpell March 18, 2010 4:55 PM PDT
Having originally been certain, before MaRo confirmed it, that Steamflogger Boss had to be a joke card because I could see no possible Contraption mechanic that wouldn't break in half or simply not function if you were able to double it with a static effect...I have now come around and think MaRo told a fib, that in fact Contraptions were the plan all along!  Why else return to Mirrodin if not to show off its intelligent, crafty Warcraft-esque goblins?
Flag Vektor480 March 18, 2010 4:59 PM PDT

Mar 18, 2010 -- 4:12PM, tressym69 wrote:

I think the truly broken power comes from those innocent looking artifact lands... without those lands Affinity would not have been a true powerhouse.  The interaction of Disciple of the Vault and Arcbound Ravager, while overpowered, was not broken unless you have a bunch of Artifact Lands to sacrifice.  If you don’t believe me that Artifact Lands are the key, just try playing extended Affinity right now with only basic lands, Glimmervoid, and Blinkmoth Nexus for your mana base.  This gutted version of Affinity might still be a playable deck but it will never be anything close to a tier one worthy powerhouse.



Perfect. I second this a million times.

Flag Viltris March 18, 2010 5:42 PM PDT
Ugh. Not a fan of Mirrodin (or of artifact blocks for that matter).

Mirrodin block was when I started learning to draft. Contrary to popular belief, Mirrodin is NOT a good set to teach beginners how to draft. Understanding the color pie, understanding how to pick the best card *for your deck* (which generally includes color considerations) rather than the best card out of a pile, and the basics of color signalling are way too important in drafting. Instead, I spent weeks picking cards that looked powerful from a glob of artifacts without rhyme or reason or consideration of what a good draft deck should even look like.

It wasn't until Kamigawa block that I actually started understanding the basics of drafting. And it was because we had a color scheme that actually made sense.
Flag oraymw March 18, 2010 6:12 PM PDT
I am actually really excited about this. R&D has grown a lot since the release of Mirrodin, so we should be getting a much better set this time around. All of the awesome flavor of Mirrodin minus all of the poorly executed broken stuff. Sounds good to me.
Flag Samot March 18, 2010 6:47 PM PDT
THE NEW AGE OF ARTIFACTS IS NIGH!




NIGH!!





...at least, I hope its nigh. It would be nice if it were nigh.
Flag Layton March 18, 2010 7:32 PM PDT

well,the steam no.
but you agree that darksteel garrison and fortify are going to be in mirrodin next block.

Flag randommaster March 18, 2010 7:41 PM PDT

Mar 18, 2010 -- 6:47PM, Samot wrote:

THE NEW AGE OF ARTIFACTS IS NIGH!

NIGH!!

...at least, I hope its nigh. It would be nice if it were nigh.



If it's not Nye, would you settle for Beakman?

I would just like to say that I will be calling this set Geometry Wars: the Gathering

Flag Samot March 18, 2010 10:05 PM PDT
no, I never liked beakman, if it must be anything, it must be Nye. Yet i still contend that it is also nigh.

and yeah, the expansion symbo looks like geometry wars doesn't it, haha.
Flag willpell March 18, 2010 11:29 PM PDT

Mar 18, 2010 -- 6:47PM, Samot wrote:

THE NEW AGE OF ARTIFACTS IS NIGH!




NIGH!!





...at least, I hope its nigh. It would be nice if it were nigh.




He's "nigh-invulnerable"?  What the heck is "nigh" anyway?

Flag wolfv March 18, 2010 11:39 PM PDT
i want this to be a set with no more then 20 colorless cards... i think that would really change the way people look at the set as a whole...
Flag Skullfer March 19, 2010 12:25 AM PDT

Mar 17, 2010 -- 10:12PM, Merdlekid wrote:

If I were to guess, this will just be Mirrodin's leftovers, some artifacts, and a bunch of colorless stuff to link with RoE.


Leftovers?  Meaning cards they didn't print for whatever reason the first time around?  On a plane that was left pretty much vacant and devoid of life?  Not likely.  This has the potential to be a freakin' cash cow for Wizards.  They are putting as much into this design as any other set, if not more.  Especially since it is the first return to a previously visited plane, and one that was admitedly done wrong originally.  they have a lot riding on this and I think they will deliver...


Mar 17, 2010 -- 10:12PM, Merdlekid wrote:

But if it turns out to just be... cards that just radiate "play me and you'll win!" then I am just done.


You mean cards like those played in Jund decks or Baneslayer (or Faeries before that)?  C'mon, get real... It won't be any worse than it is now.  Yes, I know Affinity messed things up last time around.  MaRo has admitted they screwed up.  It is not going to happen again.  And I think a lot of people will like it, except for straight up artifact haters...

Flag Skullfer March 19, 2010 12:43 AM PDT

Mar 18, 2010 -- 5:40AM, willpell wrote:

Mar 18, 2010 -- 4:53AM, hymie wrote:

Given that SOM's symbol involves hexagons, I think that we are finally getting the sixth color!




I very sincerely hope you're mistaken.  And likely I'm right, not only because adding another color would be horrible, but simply because there's no need for this logic.  Hexagons are a "machiney"-looking symbol, notable especially for being featured on the Glimmervoid Plains of the original Mirrodin, and the hacked-out hexagon doesn't have to imply a missing sixth color; it could just symbolize the "broken" (not as in card power, hopefully) world that is suggested by the "Scars" in the name.  It also suggests the card The Hive , which neatly symbolizes "artifact power" by being the game's first token-maker, not super-powerful perhaps but certainly iconic.  I've been hoping for some time to see a high-tech looking reillustration of the Hive; the version in XE is pretty good, but I wouldn't mind a bit if it got shinier and less organic-looking.




Glimmervoid people!!!!  The hexagon relates to GLIMMERVOID!!!!!!

Flag Samot March 19, 2010 1:24 AM PDT

Mar 18, 2010 -- 11:29PM, willpell wrote:

Mar 18, 2010 -- 6:47PM, Samot wrote:

THE NEW AGE OF ARTIFACTS IS NIGH!




NIGH!!





...at least, I hope its nigh. It would be nice if it were nigh.




He's "nigh-invulnerable"?  What the heck is "nigh" anyway?




It means "near" in an olde fashion sort of way.

Flag AzraelJZ March 20, 2010 5:55 AM PDT
I sure hope they reprint stuff like legacy staples but make them with some mild drawbacks,

i.e.

mox diamond: same thing but whenever it gets tap, it deals 1 damage to you.

Lotus Petal/Lion Eye Diamond: same thing but activation cost requires pay 1 and 3 life respectively.

Alpha/Beta/Revised dual lands: but now they are artifact lands which means deeds/meltdown artifact hate cards can deal with them away.

Hopefully artifact wastelands/ports/ancient tombs/city of traitors/dust bowls/maze of ith/tabernacle/glacial chasm XD

Heys mishra's factory comes back if possible too

They could reprint null rods, powdered keg and stuff too.

Make reprints of the reserved list without making exact/functional reprints XD

Just my random fantasy.
Flag Vektor480 March 20, 2010 8:19 AM PDT

Mar 20, 2010 -- 5:55AM, AzraelJZ wrote:

I sure hope they reprint stuff like legacy staples but make them with some mild drawbacks,

i.e.

mox diamond: same thing but whenever it gets tap, it deals 1 damage to you.

Lotus Petal/Lion Eye Diamond: same thing but activation cost requires pay 1 and 3 life respectively.

Alpha/Beta/Revised dual lands: but now they are artifact lands which means deeds/meltdown artifact hate cards can deal with them away.

Hopefully artifact wastelands/ports/ancient tombs/city of traitors/dust bowls/maze of ith/tabernacle/glacial chasm XD

Heys mishra's factory comes back if possible too

They could reprint null rods, powdered keg and stuff too.

Make reprints of the reserved list without making exact/functional reprints XD

Just my random fantasy.



I hope you are being sarcastic.

Flag Newbunkle March 20, 2010 9:58 AM PDT
They'd better reprint Chimney Imp , or else!
I want some sexy new art for the most broken creature ever.
Flag Layton March 20, 2010 12:19 PM PDT

i would love a new better art(if thats posible) of my favortie card ever
Darksteel colossus!!!
and something related with the bringers,what can i say,i like multicolor.
and of course,my favortie race in all magic,the vedalkens!

Flag AzraelJZ March 20, 2010 9:03 PM PDT

Mar 20, 2010 -- 8:19AM, Vektor480 wrote:

Mar 20, 2010 -- 5:55AM, AzraelJZ wrote:

I sure hope they reprint stuff like legacy staples but make them with some mild drawbacks,

i.e.

mox diamond: same thing but whenever it gets tap, it deals 1 damage to you.

Lotus Petal/Lion Eye Diamond: same thing but activation cost requires pay 1 and 3 life respectively.

Alpha/Beta/Revised dual lands: but now they are artifact lands which means deeds/meltdown artifact hate cards can deal with them away.

Hopefully artifact wastelands/ports/ancient tombs/city of traitors/dust bowls/maze of ith/tabernacle/glacial chasm XD

Heys mishra's factory comes back if possible too

They could reprint null rods, powdered keg and stuff too.

Make reprints of the reserved list without making exact/functional reprints XD

Just my random fantasy.



I hope you are being sarcastic.




Well, as long there's no affinity in the set anymore, it shouldn't be a problem.

Flag wormer105 March 21, 2010 12:48 AM PDT
I've been looking at the packs and aside from what is probably a red/black Sarkan Vol the being on the pack second from the bottom looks like a planeswalker.

Anyone else think this?
Flag Vektor480 March 21, 2010 5:16 PM PDT

Mar 20, 2010 -- 9:03PM, AzraelJZ wrote:

Mar 20, 2010 -- 8:19AM, Vektor480 wrote:

Mar 20, 2010 -- 5:55AM, AzraelJZ wrote:

I sure hope they reprint stuff like legacy staples but make them with some mild drawbacks,

i.e.

mox diamond: same thing but whenever it gets tap, it deals 1 damage to you.

Lotus Petal/Lion Eye Diamond: same thing but activation cost requires pay 1 and 3 life respectively.

Alpha/Beta/Revised dual lands: but now they are artifact lands which means deeds/meltdown artifact hate cards can deal with them away.

Hopefully artifact wastelands/ports/ancient tombs/city of traitors/dust bowls/maze of ith/tabernacle/glacial chasm XD

Heys mishra's factory comes back if possible too

They could reprint null rods, powdered keg and stuff too.

Make reprints of the reserved list without making exact/functional reprints XD

Just my random fantasy.



I hope you are being sarcastic.




Well, as long there's no affinity in the set anymore, it shouldn't be a problem.



Affinity isn't the only reason for Mox Diamond and Lotus Petal with a painland drawback, nor a Lion's Eye Diamond with a weak drawback (losing this amount of life is nothing compared to the power level of these cards) being too strong. This would destroy the Standard enviroment.

The Alpha/Beta/Revised dual lands are too good for being reprinted the way they are and making them artifacts would only make them more powerfull because they would be in a set were (possibly) artifacts matter. And just because Affinity will be out of Standard and Extended when it comes out doesn't mean it will be out of eternal formats. So they would be more than broken.

The other lands you've mentioned would also be the same thing or stronger as artifacts. The fact that they are vulnerable to artifact removal pays for the huge interactions they will have with a lot of other cards.

Flag quadibloc March 21, 2010 9:14 PM PDT
Today's Magic Arcana is an interesting article, but it isn't a new product announcement. Perhaps the front page image just hasn't been uploaded yet.
Flag AlphaLobo March 21, 2010 9:17 PM PDT

Mar 21, 2010 -- 9:14PM, quadibloc wrote:

Today's Magic Arcana is an interesting article, but it isn't a new product announcement. Perhaps the front page image just hasn't been uploaded yet.




Exactly, quad. I was wondering why they put this up with the "announcement" banner before opening a scanned image of a Magazine article form 1997.

Flag Guest1111337765 March 21, 2010 9:34 PM PDT
yeah... I'm not 100% what they are trying to get at.
Its probably an error.
oh, btw ^ 666th post, sir.
Flag WotC_Monty March 21, 2010 9:53 PM PDT

Mar 21, 2010 -- 9:34PM, Guest1111337765 wrote:

yeah... I'm not 100% what they are trying to get at.
Its probably an error.
oh, btw ^ 666th post, sir.


Yes, the Arcana icon is a mistake. Sorry about that, everybody.

Flag Gudelo March 22, 2010 1:49 AM PDT
Those look like Monopoly cards XD
Flag RookieMage March 22, 2010 6:08 AM PDT
Heh, 20 bucks says they announce something tomorrow :P
Flag AzraelJZ March 22, 2010 8:47 AM PDT

Mar 21, 2010 -- 5:16PM, Vektor480 wrote:


Affinity isn't the only reason for Mox Diamond and Lotus Petal with a painland drawback, nor a Lion's Eye Diamond with a weak drawback (losing this amount of life is nothing compared to the power level of these cards) being too strong. This would destroy the Standard enviroment.

The Alpha/Beta/Revised dual lands are too good for being reprinted the way they are and making them artifacts would only make them more powerfull because they would be in a set were (possibly) artifacts matter. And just because Affinity will be out of Standard and Extended when it comes out doesn't mean it will be out of eternal formats. So they would be more than broken.

The other lands you've mentioned would also be the same thing or stronger as artifacts. The fact that they are vulnerable to artifact removal pays for the huge interactions they will have with a lot of other cards.




Well, considering we have a stagnant aggro meta now, some combo/control would be fun (also going back to the urza era gold standard would be soo much better) =)

And by the way, I play legacy, affinity is rather poor faring in legacy (tier 1.5-2) compared to many of the Tier 1 decks and they are in no way broken.

As for vintage, quite a couple of decks there due to the mana base they have is already broken, I doubt it would really affect the format much.

Flag JustTerrorIt March 22, 2010 12:05 PM PDT

Mar 17, 2010 -- 10:12PM, Merdlekid wrote:

But if it turns out to just be more altered affinity, lots of indestructable, and cards that just radiate 'play me and you'll win!' then I am just done. .




So basically you are hoping that there is no Cascade, Darksteel Colossus / Thornling / Spearbreaker Behemoth , and no Baneslayer Angel like there is in the current Standard that you seem to be enjoying?
Oh. Ok.

Flag Utopia_Tree March 22, 2010 12:32 PM PDT
Scars of... of... MIRRODIN?!

NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

I guess this means that the creative team is out of ideas again. 
Flag Vektor480 March 22, 2010 1:17 PM PDT

Mar 22, 2010 -- 8:47AM, AzraelJZ wrote:

Well, considering we have a stagnant aggro meta now, some combo/control would be fun (also going back to the urza era gold standard would be soo much better) =)



Yes, so that they could start banning cards all over again and proving that they have unlearned how to develop Magic.

Mar 22, 2010 -- 8:47AM, AzraelJZ wrote:

And by the way, I play legacy, affinity is rather poor faring in legacy (tier 1.5-2) compared to many of the Tier 1 decks and they are in no way broken.



Now give them artifact dual lands with no drawback.

Mar 22, 2010 -- 8:47AM, AzraelJZ wrote:

As for vintage, quite a couple of decks there due to the mana base they have is already broken, I doubt it would really affect the format much.



I think it would. And if it didn't hurt Vintage, it would hurt Extended and Standard.

Flag Qmark March 22, 2010 3:53 PM PDT

Mar 22, 2010 -- 12:32PM, Utopia_Tree wrote:

Scars of... of... MIRRODIN?!

NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

I  guess this means that the creative team is out of ideas again. 


Creative ran out of ideas in 1994.

Magic's Worldbuilding Process, explained:

  • Choose a random noun or adjective out of the dictionary, to get '[Whatever] World'.
  • Anybody seems cool when named with the "[somebody] -comma- The [something]" convention. 
  • Find some random animal and glue boobs to it.  We gotta corner that furry market.
  • Goblins.  Don't forget the Goblins!  No, really.  Put Goblins in there dammit!
  • Establish a protagonist nobody's going to care about anyway.
  • New for 2007:  Establish several Planeswalkers nobody's going to care about anyway.
Flag zammm March 22, 2010 4:01 PM PDT

Mar 22, 2010 -- 3:53PM, Qmark wrote:

Choose a random noun or adjective out of the dictionary, to get '[Whatever] World'.


I demand to see Toaster World!

Flag Qmark March 22, 2010 5:25 PM PDT

Mar 22, 2010 -- 4:01PM, zammm wrote:

Mar 22, 2010 -- 3:53PM, Qmark wrote:

Choose a random noun or adjective out of the dictionary, to get '[Whatever] World'.


I demand to see Toaster World!


Wasn't that Time Spiral block?

Flag willpell March 22, 2010 8:10 PM PDT

Mar 19, 2010 -- 1:24AM, Samot wrote:

Mar 18, 2010 -- 11:29PM, willpell wrote:

Mar 18, 2010 -- 6:47PM, Samot wrote:

THE NEW AGE OF ARTIFACTS IS NIGH!




NIGH!!





...at least, I hope its nigh. It would be nice if it were nigh.




He's "nigh-invulnerable"?  What the heck is "nigh" anyway?




It means "near" in an olde fashion sort of way.




I know what it means; I was quoting "The Tick".

Flag zammm March 22, 2010 8:31 PM PDT

Mar 22, 2010 -- 5:25PM, Qmark wrote:

Mar 22, 2010 -- 4:01PM, zammm wrote:

Mar 22, 2010 -- 3:53PM, Qmark wrote:

Choose a random noun or adjective out of the dictionary, to get '[Whatever] World'.


I demand to see Toaster World!


Wasn't that Time Spiral block?


No, that was Post-Apocalypse World.

Flag PocketUniverse March 22, 2010 10:43 PM PDT
It's strange that they first kill off Legacy by fortifying their reprint policy, then they publish this article:
wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?...
where they say: "Sound like fun? Well now you can play too, because Legacy is coming to Magic  Online soon!".

Is that their great idea? Move the legacy-people to MtgO? I know more than one legacy player who just wouldn't do that.
Flag rukcus March 22, 2010 11:47 PM PDT
From today's Daily List (March 23 2010):

"The Legacy format allows players to use nearly all Magic cards that have ever been printed! With the exclusion of a few overly powerful cards on its banned list, Legacy covers all sets in the game's history. That means you get some interesting decks. Chris Woltereck recently won a large Legacy tournament, the StarCityGames.com Open in Indianapolis, using a deck playing over 40 lands! The goal of his deck is to put as many lands onto the battlefield as possible using "Exploration", "Manabond", and "Life from the Loam". From there it can beat people down with Mishra's Factory or Mindslaver-lock them using Academy Ruins. Sound like fun? Well now you can play too, because Legacy is coming to Magic Online soon!"


 


I'm not at all surprised monkeys run your departments, because neither Exploration, Maze of Ith, nor Rishadan Port are available AT ALL online right now.  So, no, you can't play this deck on Magic Online.


 


Does the left head even talk to the right head about this stuff?

Flag fractal March 23, 2010 12:39 AM PDT
What I was thinking was that no, Mindslaver locking people doesn't sound like fun at all, why would they encourage that sort of thing?  Way too Griefer.
Flag ContraEgo March 23, 2010 4:16 AM PDT
Also, the deck is only named 43 lands. If you look at the list it does not actually have "over 40 lands".

Nice variation though.
Flag TobyornotToby March 23, 2010 5:46 AM PDT

Mar 22, 2010 -- 10:43PM, PocketUniverse wrote:

It's strange that they first kill off Legacy by fortifying their reprint policy, then they publish this article where they say: "Sound like fun? Well now you can play too




Mar 22, 2010 -- 11:47PM, rukcus wrote:

I'm not at all surprised monkeys run your departments, because neither Exploration, Maze of Ith, nor Rishadan Port are available AT ALL online right now.  So, no, you can't play this deck on Magic Online.




Mar 23, 2010 -- 12:39AM, fractal wrote:

What I was thinking was that no, Mindslaver locking people doesn't sound like fun at all, why would they encourage that sort of thing?  Way too Griefer.




Mar 23, 2010 -- 4:16AM, ContraEgo wrote:

Also, the deck is only named 43 lands. If you look at the list it does not actually have "over 40 lands".




LOL at that much fail in one article! Laughing

Flag joeber March 23, 2010 7:20 AM PDT
Is there anyway to get a Tomb Hex wallpaper? it looks crappy all streched out
Flag quitequieter March 23, 2010 8:23 AM PDT

Mar 23, 2010 -- 7:20AM, joeber wrote:

Is there anyway to get a Tomb Hex wallpaper? it looks crappy all streched out




how ironic!

Flag martinlongbow March 23, 2010 9:59 AM PDT
even if you gather this deck by spending a million bucks you still dont have some of the cards you need for it online. such a lame joke
Flag quitequieter March 23, 2010 1:01 PM PDT
it's like they want to get people angry, or something.
Flag JustTerrorIt March 23, 2010 1:11 PM PDT

Mar 22, 2010 -- 1:17PM, Vektor480 wrote:


Now give them artifact dual lands with no drawback.



: Add or to your mana pool?



Mar 22, 2010 -- 3:53PM, Qmark wrote:

Creative ran out of ideas in 1994.

Magic's Worldbuilding Process, explained:

  • Choose a random noun or adjective out of the dictionary, to get '[Whatever] World'.
  • Anybody seems cool when named with the "[somebody] -comma- The [something]" convention. 
  • Find some random animal and glue boobs to it.  We gotta corner that furry market.
  • Goblins.  Don't forget the Goblins!  No, really.  Put Goblins in there dammit!
  • Establish a protagonist nobody's going to care about anyway.
  • New for 2007:  Establish several Planeswalkers nobody's going to care about anyway.




I am starting to believe that you hate Magic. Reading some of your posts, the evidence certainly points to this.

Flag Qmark March 23, 2010 1:17 PM PDT

Mar 23, 2010 -- 1:11PM, JustTerrorIt wrote:

I am starting to believe that you hate Magic. Reading some of your posts, the evidence certainly points to this.


Nah.  
It's just the same sort of amused cynicism that comes from the realization that any given episode of House is exactly the same as every other episode of House, except with a different disease-of-the-week.
Of course, I still watch the show to see who's gonna punch House in the face this time.

Flag Vektor480 March 23, 2010 3:51 PM PDT

Mar 23, 2010 -- 1:11PM, JustTerrorIt wrote:

Mar 22, 2010 -- 1:17PM, Vektor480 wrote:


Now give them artifact dual lands with no drawback.



: Add or to your mana pool?



LOL. He suggested something like an artifact Tropical Island .

Flag Bezman March 23, 2010 4:41 PM PDT

Mar 22, 2010 -- 11:47PM, rukcus wrote:

Well now you can play too, because Legacy is coming to Magic Online

soon!"


 


I'm not at all surprised monkeys run your departments, because neither Exploration, Maze of Ith, nor Rishadan Port are available AT ALL online right now.  So, no, you can't play this deck on Magic Online.


 


Does the left head even talk to the right head about this stuff?




Please note the word 'soon'. Implying that Legacy cards currently unavailable are on their way.

Flag martinlongbow March 23, 2010 5:48 PM PDT
no soon means legacy will be in magic online at the end of march, not the cards but the format
Flag Bezman March 24, 2010 5:15 AM PDT
Are you sure? I don't play MTGO but was told that the most inclusive format was being called 'Classic' until they'd caught up with the card-pool of Legacy.

I just assumed, after reading that, that they'd finally gotten to that point.
Flag martinlongbow March 24, 2010 6:51 AM PDT

do all angels have to be beautiful but cold women? isnt there a fat, sexy or smiling versions of these cratures?

Flag RPJesus March 25, 2010 2:17 AM PDT

Mar 24, 2010 -- 6:51AM, martinlongbow wrote:


do all angels have to be beautiful but cold women? isnt there a fat, sexy or smiling versions of these cratures?




Well they've got sexy in spades. Only about 2 x 6 of the other two though...

Also,

There was a time when Urza was the most important unseen figure in Magic. He had towers, hats, and cool shades. But no one knew what he looked like.



When was The Brothers' War written?

Flag Yamikiri March 25, 2010 3:53 AM PDT
I find it funny that there example of an "innovative" deck is Goblins.
Flag Duffey March 25, 2010 6:54 AM PDT

Urza plainswalker who finally seales the eldrazi away in mirrodin ?
Probably not since his name is not in the orb but there is a missing planes walker

Flag Vektor480 March 25, 2010 11:03 AM PDT

Mar 25, 2010 -- 3:53AM, Yamikiri wrote:

I find it funny that there example of an "innovative" deck is Goblins.



I came here to say that. Really, there are few things that I can think about in Magic that are less innovative than goblins.

Flag canno93 March 25, 2010 12:16 PM PDT

In the faces of urza article..you guys have urza being on the card opportunity from Urza's Legacy..but that's really Barin and not urza posing as someone.  Just thought I'd point that out.

Flag RPJesus March 25, 2010 12:48 PM PDT

Mar 25, 2010 -- 6:54AM, Duffey wrote:

Urza plainswalker who finally seales the eldrazi away in mirrodin ?



That's one hell of a chicken .

Flag phaseshifter March 25, 2010 12:52 PM PDT
That's Urza on Opportunity?

Always looked like Barrin to me. 
Flag Orgg_Killah March 25, 2010 4:44 PM PDT
Anyone else think that this Arcana, the PvtC Duel Deck, and the return to Mirrodin (with a probable Phyrexian set in the block) mean that we shall soon return to Dominaria?

After all, we need an Urza Planeswalker card. Karn dies and Urza uses the last of Karn's godwalker powers (or the second spark if, like Bolas, Karn has already been downgraded) to make a new, Bradywalker body?

If they do go back to Dominaria, I'd love to see what happened to Kamahl. The Otaria arc was pretty good until the Karona crap.
Flag zammm March 25, 2010 4:50 PM PDT
Urza is dead. Urza being dead is what allowed Karn to become a Walker in the first place.
Flag Newbunkle March 25, 2010 5:04 PM PDT
Lets return to Kamigawa next. :P

Also, REPRINT CHIMNEY IMP!
Flag Vektor480 March 25, 2010 5:50 PM PDT
Maybe I would start likeing Planeswalkers a bit if they printed a Karn planeswalker card.
Flag Orgg_Killah March 25, 2010 5:57 PM PDT

Karn has Urza's and Gerrard's memories. Maybe this also means that their consciousnesses (or "selves") are still knocking around as well.

If this is the case (or even if it isn't, really) resurrecting them through magical means wouldn't be outside the realm of possibility.

Plus, there's the clear storyline out of the time rifts from Future Sight. If they think bringing Urza back would be good, there are lots of ways to justify it. I mean, there's been foreshadowing that Yawgmoth is less than dead for good.

Flag mindvise March 26, 2010 3:43 AM PDT
Does Magic support species/breeds going extint? I would seem so since Tarpan has a beneficial effect when it goes into the graveyard.
Flag pentarch_paladin March 27, 2010 5:45 PM PDT

Mar 26, 2010 -- 3:43AM, mindvise wrote:

Does Magic support species/breeds going extint? I would seem so since Tarpan has a beneficial effect when it goes into the graveyard.



I believe that the way summons work in Magic is that you create a copy of a creature based on your magical memories of that creature, rather than pulling it to you through the Blind Eternities, so if a specie goes extinct you can still summon members of it. This theory also explains how Legends can "Die" in games; It's not actually the chacacter from the storyline, it's a magical copy of that character with all his/her/its memories and/or abilities.

But you're right, it's pretty funny that you get a reward for making an extinct specie even more extinct

Flag Layton March 28, 2010 9:35 PM PDT
lol, this is a deck  a a copy of one of my decks XD,if you dont belive me, check at cambicartas.com and search for a deck called spellbound.i did it hahahaha...


i hate net deckers -_-
now i feel like the guy who create the jund deck,only that jund actually do something...
by the way,i mae that deck to be a anti jund,and it works.
Flag The-D March 28, 2010 9:43 PM PDT
Red/Blue Dragons on Monday 3/29's Daily Deck List, really cool deck, havent seen something like that in a while. Its all big and pretty fast, looks like it will hurt you. I like it.
Flag ShuPacthe1st March 29, 2010 1:24 AM PDT
I've just seen in Magic Arcana art for Swamps in RoE. Best part of article is last sentence: ''Very nice!'' which is ooooooh sooooo wrooooooooong!!!


In my humble opinion those are the WORST EVER printed swamps in histoy of MtG!!! E-V-E-R!!!!!!!!!
Flag RPJesus March 29, 2010 2:07 AM PDT

Mar 29, 2010 -- 1:24AM, ShuPacthe1st wrote:


In my humble opinion those are the WORST EVER printed swamps in histoy of MtG!!! E-V-E-R!!!!!!!!!



Wrong .

Flag LMTRK March 29, 2010 2:42 AM PDT

Panoramic Basic Lands? Oh yes please!

~ Tim

Flag oyzar March 29, 2010 3:38 AM PDT
Any lands are just ugly compared to zendikar lands. So disapointing to go away from full art lands even though they said they would do it. While i don't think the lands look ugly they certainly aren't anything exceptional. Please bring back full art lands as soon as possible and keep them full art for every set.
Flag LordCapulet March 29, 2010 6:43 AM PDT
So, if I am to understand correctly, ROE will not have full-art lands?
Have they officially stated this?
Flag shotgunpriest March 29, 2010 8:37 AM PDT
The RoE swamps would be better....if they were full art
Flag Qmark March 29, 2010 8:41 AM PDT

Mar 29, 2010 -- 1:24AM, ShuPacthe1st wrote:

In my humble opinion those are the WORST EVER printed swamps in histoy of MtG!!! E-V-E-R!!!!!!!!!


What, do they only make half a black mana or something?

Flag ryno106 March 29, 2010 11:29 AM PDT

Glad to see panoramic land pics back, we were just talking the other day that it would be cool to see these again! 

Flag Vektor480 March 29, 2010 1:25 PM PDT

Mar 29, 2010 -- 1:24AM, ShuPacthe1st wrote:

In my humble opinion those are the WORST EVER printed swamps in histoy of MtG!!! E-V-E-R!!!!!!!!!



I think you are mostly alone in this one, dude.

Flag RPJesus March 29, 2010 1:37 PM PDT

Mar 29, 2010 -- 1:25PM, Vektor480 wrote:

Mar 29, 2010 -- 1:24AM, ShuPacthe1st wrote:

In my humble opinion those are the WORST EVER printed swamps in histoy of MtG!!! E-V-E-R!!!!!!!!!



I think you are mostly alone in this one, dude.




Nah it really seems to be pretty polarizing between people such as myself who appreciate nice art, and those who can't appreciate beauty. Not that I'm biased or anything < img src="http://fast1.onesite.com/community.wizards.com/smileys/grin.gif"> .

Flag Phyrebolt March 29, 2010 2:47 PM PDT

Half art lands suxorz! There is absolutely no point in making half art lands, should have learned that back in unglued. The art is sort of nice, shame I’m just going to throw all half art lands into the garbage from now on.

Flag bastardx March 29, 2010 3:39 PM PDT
UR DARGONS sweet!
Flag Sacrier March 29, 2010 8:11 PM PDT
I'm dissappointed by these.  Panoramic lands is a good idea.

But these are dissappointing swamps.  where's the color?  grey... boring and because of the panorama effect we are stuck with all 5 swamps being the same boring grey.  The cubes are nice but they needs some black magicy color stuff on 'em.  The only one I would consider liking is the one on the far right because it has some cube color.

blech... just what magic didn't need after the awesome full-art zendikar lands, 5 grey boring half-art swamps. :-(  

excitement for ROE: -1 for me now 
Flag graciejitsu March 29, 2010 9:11 PM PDT
Wow, a foil Emrakul, the Aeons Torn for a prerelease? Sweet! I'm in.
Flag Bluesunhiredgun March 29, 2010 10:04 PM PDT
Good Lord.  If I ever had a reason to turn two cast a channel and pay 15 life, Emrakul would be it.
Flag turborimusa March 29, 2010 10:26 PM PDT
Definitely will be attending to a prerelease
Flag C4rl0wn463 March 29, 2010 10:33 PM PDT
Hmpf... Yeah, so everybody is getting a foil legendary Eldrazi? I like the idea of getting Emrakul for free, but the idea of everybody walking around with something so awesome, so easily received... Well, there's nothing I can do, so that's that.

Yeah, Emrakul is awesome to get for free. But I'd like it way better if I get it out of a booster. ^^
Flag willpell March 29, 2010 11:33 PM PDT
I'm a little annoyed that they broke the symmetry by having Emrakul have a different annihilator number than the other two Drazi.  But I like her version of "haste".
Flag AlexaM March 30, 2010 10:10 AM PDT

Mar 29, 2010 -- 1:24AM, ShuPacthe1st wrote:

I've just seen in Magic Arcana art for Swamps in RoE. Best part of article is last sentence: ''Very nice!'' which is ooooooh sooooo wrooooooooong!!!

In my humble opinion those are the WORST EVER printed swamps in histoy of MtG!!! E-V-E-R!!!!!!!!!




I don't think they're pretty either. The pink is a bit bilious.

I am happy to see panoramic land pictures return, though. I expect that the other lands will be better looking.

Full art land is awesome, but they told us straight up it was just a special thing for ZEN.

Flag Hacimen March 30, 2010 10:13 AM PDT

Mar 29, 2010 -- 10:33PM, C4rl0wn463 wrote:

Hmpf... Yeah, so everybody is getting a foil legendary Eldrazi? I like the idea of getting Emrakul for free, but the idea of everybody walking around with something so awesome, so easily received... Well, there's nothing I can do, so that's that.

Yeah, Emrakul is awesome to get for free. But I'd like it way better if I get it out of a booster. ^^




It's cooler to pull it, sure, but considering the demographic they are trying to reach it is actually smarter to make sure everyone gets a copy. Besides, for people like me it's pretty much the only incentive we have to go to a Rise of the Fatties prerelease. I want my ridiculous 15/15, and for that I will hang around, eat trail mix and play with nothing but Timmy cards until I get bored and drop. It will look cool in a binder and perhaps one day I will actually find a use for it.

Flag phaseshifter March 30, 2010 5:42 PM PDT

Feb 28, 2010 -- 9:43PM, bram-s-wallace wrote:

First off, awesome presentation. Next, I just want to say I really, really hope that WotC does some serious playtesting so we don't have one or two mana creatures running around with anihilattor. If they do make a low cmc creature with anihilattor I hope they have the sense to keep it a 0/1 or something. But, it'll be so great if they pull this off right.

Crossing my fingers.




Come on now, they're not THAT stupid. a 1 mana creature with anihilator would end the game by itself unless you play land/path to exile on your turn.

I really can't see how they'd all agree to do something like that. 

Flag FineVintage March 30, 2010 7:56 PM PDT
Not sure where to report this, so I'll do this here and hope a WotC web developer sees this:

Over on the event coverage archive page at

www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Events.aspx?x=mtg/eventcoverage/main

under the Grand Prix for the 2005 season, there are a couple of mistakes.
It incorrectly lists the format of GP Nottingham and GP Rimini:


Nottingham, England (September 3-4, 2005) - Kamigawa Block Constructed
...
Rimini, Italy (Sept. 10-11, 2004) - Standard




The formats were actually:


Nottingham, England (September 3-4, 2005) - Sealed with Booster Draft
...
Rimini, Italy (Sept. 10-11, 2004) - Mirrodin Block Constructed




Hopefully a WotC web developer can correct this.

Flag Gerdef March 30, 2010 9:28 PM PDT


Ponies!

for sharing the humor

Gerdef
Flag Gwendlyn_Di_Corci March 30, 2010 10:05 PM PDT
Flag willpell March 31, 2010 4:24 AM PDT
Funny arcana.  I wonder if Curse was a relative of Poison.  I also wonder whether the white card owes its existence to the players who used to say lifegain was bad, or if it was just designed to combo with Pygmy Giant Laughing
Flag Fenaris0 March 31, 2010 5:04 AM PDT
Player : You never said I could have a REAL pony!

WotC : Well, you never asked!
Flag willpell April 21, 2010 4:20 AM PDT
I am deeply puzzled how they managed to do the Surrakar Spellblade goof on *both* the individual IP picture *and* the box picture (which still has not been fixed).

Also interesting - the mystery picture of Kozilek, which currently headlines the product page but doesn't appear on any cards, is the background image for "Totem Power", where all the other decks have an actual card's picture in that position (eg Pathrazer of Ulamog on the RG deck).  Makes me wonder if this picture was on the missing 249th card.
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