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3 years ago  ::  Mar 03, 2010 - 8:59AM #61
forty2j
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Mar 2, 2010 -- 5:40PM, jubba-maestro wrote:



I know bounced is unsummoning, but what's popped?




When I use a planewalker's last ability, especially when it has exactly the loyalty required and no more, I tend to saying I'm "popping" it. Same with 1-off quests (I pop Zektar Shrine Expedition to put a 7/1 elemental in). Anything with a growing number of counters which can all be removed for dramatic effect in conjunction with the removal of the permanent they are on would qualify.

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3 years ago  ::  Mar 03, 2010 - 12:13PM #62
Xalchiem
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Noob question:

This one deals with the combat phase -- again. If an attacking creature is blocked, but that blocker is destroyed before the damage phase, does the attacking creature do damage to the defending player? This is assuming that the attacking creature does not have trample. I believe with trample the damage would still hit the opponent, right? So without trample is the damage still blocked despite the fact that the blocker was destroyed or does the damage go through anyway? Again, this is before the damage phase takes place, but after the blockers have been declared.

Thank you all in advance!
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3 years ago  ::  Mar 03, 2010 - 12:16PM #63
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Mar 3, 2010 -- 12:13PM, Xalchiem wrote:

If an attacking creature is blocked, but that blocker is destroyed before the damage phase, does the attacking creature do damage to the defending player? This is assuming that the attacking creature does not have trample.


No. The attacker is still a "blocked creature", and blocked creatures don't normally deal damage to the defending player or planeswalker. The creature will not deal damage.

510.1c A blocked creature assigns its combat damage to the creatures blocking it. If no creatures are currently blocking it (if, for example, they were destroyed or removed from combat), it assigns no combat damage. [...]


I believe with trample the damage would still hit the opponent, right?


Correct.

702.17c If an attacking creature with trample is blocked, but there are no creatures blocking it when damage is assigned, all its damage is assigned to the player or planeswalker it's attacking.


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3 years ago  ::  Mar 03, 2010 - 12:27PM #64
Xalchiem
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Cool, thank you for that!

I had a quick question about "Unearth." The player pays the cost to bring back a card from the graveyard and put it into play, right? How many times can this happen? For example, the card is put in the graveyard, the player, during one of their main phases, pays the cost to Unearth the card. That same card somehow ends up in the graveyard again. Can the player Unearth it again or is it a one-time only thing?
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3 years ago  ::  Mar 03, 2010 - 12:30PM #65
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Mar 3, 2010 -- 12:27PM, Xalchiem wrote:

Cool, thank you for that!

I had a quick question about "Unearth." The player pays the cost to bring back a card from the graveyard and put it into play, right? How many times can this happen? For example, the card is put in the graveyard, the player, during one of their main phases, pays the cost to Unearth the card. That same card somehow ends up in the graveyard again. Can the player Unearth it again or is it a one-time only thing?


Part of the effect of Unearth is that if the creature would leave the battlefield for any other zone than Exile, it is exiled instead. It cannot end up in the graveyard again (EDIT : unless it is sent ot the Exile zone and then pulled back from there as explained by cyphern below).

Am I the only one who thinks this thread is big enough already? I encourage people to create one new thread by question, unless they have a follow-up question that is directly related to the first.


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3 years ago  ::  Mar 03, 2010 - 12:30PM #66
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Mar 3, 2010 -- 12:27PM, Xalchiem wrote:

That same card somehow ends up in the graveyard again.


It is VERY difficult for the card to end up back in the graveyard. Any time the unearthed creature would leave the battlefield, it will be exiled instead, so you will need to first get it to the exile zone and then use Pull from eternity to get it into your graveyard.

But if you do manage to get it back into your graveyard, yes, you can unearth it again.

702.81a Unearth is an activated ability that functions while the card with unearth is in a graveyard. "Unearth [cost]" means "[Cost]: Return this card from your graveyard to the battlefield. It gains haste. Exile it at the beginning of the next end step. If it would leave the battlefield, exile it instead of putting it anywhere else. Activate this ability only any time you could cast a sorcery."


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3 years ago  ::  Mar 03, 2010 - 12:49PM #67
Xalchiem
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Mar 3, 2010 -- 12:30PM, MadMageQc wrote:

Am I the only one who thinks this thread is big enough already? I encourage people to create one new thread by question, unless they have a follow-up question that is directly related to the first.




I don't mean to argue with you by any means, but the thread is named "Simple questions from a noob." Keywords being "questions" and "noob." Plus, I did not think that I should create multiple topics for each of my questions since it seems that I have quite a few on a daily basis, and most of the people that have been helping me can just check here.

All the same, I have no problems creating a new topic per question if that is how things are meant to work. Again, and I have no problem admitting the truth, I am a noob by all standards when it comes to all of this stuff -- including forums as I believe I previously posted in this same topic. Like I said, I do not mean to argue, I am just explaining my reasons, and pointing out that I did not realize that it was an issue. Thus, be that the case, I will be sure to create a brand new topic per question unless my new question directly relates to that specific topic question. In which case, as you said, I would just repost it there.

With that said, thank you for explaining the Unearth question. You and Cyphern have bothed clearly answered my question, and I appreciate it, as always!

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3 years ago  ::  Mar 03, 2010 - 12:52PM #68
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Mar 3, 2010 -- 12:49PM, Xalchiem wrote:



I don't mean to argue with you by any means, but the thread is named "Simple questions from a noob." Keywords being "questions" and "noob." Plus, I did not think that I should create multiple topics for each of my questions since it seems that I have quite a few on a daily basis, and most of the people that have been helping me can just check here.




We do encourage separate threads for each line of questioning, because:
1) Sometimes someone has moved on to their next question, but there's still more clarification to be added to the prior. The thread then becomes a jarbled mess. (Yes, jarbled's a word. {Writes it into the dictionary.} See?)
2) It's easier for someone with the same question to find their answer with the forum search - ESPECIALLY given how poor the current search feature is.

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3 years ago  ::  Mar 03, 2010 - 12:55PM #69
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The convention on this forum has been to make new threads for new questions. The motivation for this is that it makes it easier for a third party to scan through and find questions that are related to theirs, because they can look at the title of a thread and quickly pick out whether it is relevant.

I, for one, don't really care. Making a monolithic thread like this might be more inconvenient for random people browsing the forums, but this is offset by it being more convenient for you, since you only have to go to one location to find all the answers we've given you. 
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3 years ago  ::  Mar 03, 2010 - 1:02PM #70
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As always, you both have come through for me and helped educate a noob. I have no issue following the convention. I am not here to rock any boats, I am just trying to learn. So, on that note, I will just leave this thread as is, though I will obviously stay subscribed to it in case anyone else adds on to previous answers, as well as for a personal reference. I can understand how it might be frustrating for random browsers to need an answer and not be able to find one because they don't feel like sifting through 15 pages of posts. If I have another question arise I'll be sure to post a new topic in the appropriate forum.

Thank you all again, you have been very kind and EXTREMELY helpful!


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