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3 years ago ::
Feb 06, 2010 - 8:33AM
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First, don't run Explore. It's not that good. Rampant does the job better if you MUST, but it seems like Birds would be better than both. But you don't sound like you need it.
Second, Auras choose targets as they are cast and can be redirected. The confusion comes when people think of Journey to Nowhere and O-ring as auras...they're not and they target differently.
Third, Kazuul seems really out of place here. I'd just run Sphinx. His shroud is good here because he'll dodge any cheap removal they have, they'll never hit Coup mana, nobody runs DoJ, and they'll be rushing Gatekeeprs out to stop recurring LD/Lotus accel so they can't hold him and wait.
Lastly, cool idea...if I ever bother with Cobra I might give it a whirl.
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3 years ago ::
Feb 07, 2010 - 3:18AM
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Explore is good(been testing it in the extended valakut deck and it's nuts), but in general it is good, however Spreading seas is just better for most match ups at the moment.
Kazuul is excellent, because your opponent can't attack into him, basically he comes down, then they need to use all their mana to attack you, rather than make more threats etc. He's an awesome road block and if they kil him, it menas I can recurr my slimes etc more, since they're still living. A five power guy is also nice if you need to clock someone quickly, if you've upset their manabase a little, but maybe don't have the cards to cripl eit just yet, you can come in with a big guy whilst they scramble for mana and you dig for LD. Ghostly Prison with a 5/4 body is bananas, in an LD deck..... even better.
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3 years ago ::
Feb 07, 2010 - 10:54AM
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Explore is good(been testing it in the extended valakut deck and it's nuts), but in general it is good, however Spreading seas is just better for most match ups at the moment.
Kazuul is excellent, because your opponent can't attack into him, basically he comes down, then they need to use all their mana to attack you, rather than make more threats etc. He's an awesome road block and if they kil him, it menas I can recurr my slimes etc more, since they're still living. A five power guy is also nice if you need to clock someone quickly, if you've upset their manabase a little, but maybe don't have the cards to cripl eit just yet, you can come in with a big guy whilst they scramble for mana and you dig for LD. Ghostly Prison with a 5/4 body is bananas, in an LD deck..... even better.
Yeah but most of the removal that offs him costs 1-3 mana, which they will be able to find. I'd rather win when my guy hits than get a soft lock on a deck barely playing threats as is. And vs control he's just useless.
Dropping Sphinx means you can focus on keeping them off lands and just win in a few turns, which is sort of the goal of any deck.
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3 years ago ::
Feb 07, 2010 - 3:05PM
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I understand what you're saying, and I did test the sphinx, and it did work. However Kazuul worked better in testing. Having my 5/4 removed was never much of an issue, by the time he came down, as a two of, he effects the game enough when you need him to, and is an asset against decks like vamps and boros, who can't deal with him easily(aside from path, which helps you a lot), and his ability completely dominates those match ups, which are the match ups you need help in dominating.
If you don't have the kazuul's, you can play the sphinx's, they are fine, but on the whole in testing, Kazuul's ability has been more than worth it's higher vulnerability.
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3 years ago ::
Feb 07, 2010 - 5:41PM
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hmm kazuul is interesting, I'll try him in the ld that I'm workin on. Right now I'm runnin bloodwitch in his place, but I'm also only in BR.
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3 years ago ::
Feb 07, 2010 - 8:25PM
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This is pretty awesome. I was thinknig along the same lines, only without green to allow Tectonic Edge to be playable, Everflowing Chalace also gives it the ramp to get to turn 3 Ruinblasters, that and artifact mana and LD always have been and always will be best friends.
I'd also be worred becuase you have so many GG/UU/RR spells, and no real dual lands to handle them.
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3 years ago ::
Feb 08, 2010 - 3:24AM
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Lotus Cobra does help cast the spells, and spreading seas and ponderland dig for you.
The biggest thign is to know when to crack fetches and what for. In the earyl game, you might need one bit of blue, that's it, so you can concentrate on G and R, red first, then G, then as turn 6 approaches, you can think about sticking a jace, and getting the relevant mana to do so.
Everflowing Chalice doesn't give coloured mana, I usually stick a dual on turn one, or a garden/ponderland. And all the land produce coloured mana(fetches fetch coloured mana obviously). So every land helps towards the colour commitment. If you find in testing that the mana doesn't work well for you, then you can up the duals. So far, it's doing fine for me, what the deck does need, is more outlining of the format, so it can adapt.
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3 years ago ::
Feb 10, 2010 - 6:30AM
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Chain Reaction has actually proved quite good in the board, since allies are popular, You can bounce your guy with jace to save him, them wrath their board and carry on with the LD. Jund match up is a joke
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3 years ago ::
Feb 10, 2010 - 12:53PM
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Yea..I feel like jund isn't going to be nearly anywhere near as good post WWK. It'll still be solid, but not dominating.
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3 years ago ::
Feb 11, 2010 - 3:34AM
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Jund won't be as dominating as before, but a lot of players think their control decks get a free ride against it. This is where we will see the difference between good and bad players. Since the good players can adapt the build and play to beat control, the morons who usually play jund get crushed by the hate.
I saw someone playing a contorl deck, saying how they always beat Jund, then they played against the good jund player, and got demolished.
Anyway, back to this deck, Grixis and UWR control seem to be pikcing up in popularity even more, and this deck eats them both for breakfast.
I'm still worried about Boros and RDW though.
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