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3 years ago ::
Jan 14, 2010 - 5:28PM
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This thread is for discussion of this week's Feature Article, which goes live Monday morning on magicthegathering.com.
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3 years ago ::
Jan 17, 2010 - 9:19PM
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Date Joined:
Apr 16, 2007
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Great article Doug, love the creature.
Hate that you tried to justify the removal of manaburn within it.
The card easily could have said that green mana doesn't cause mana burn (just like it says that mana doesn't drain, which is equally "rules" intensive for scrubs).
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3 years ago ::
Jan 17, 2010 - 9:25PM
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Jan 20, 2009
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I kept saying Wizards needs to find new design space in green.
This is what happens when they do. Awesome stuff. I don't care that it's monogreen, I am DEFINITELY making an EDH deck around this card, and I'll be damned if I don't. I don't care if the card has memory issues, it's still my favorite designed card of the year.
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3 years ago ::
Jan 17, 2010 - 9:36PM
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The Spike in me is not wholly impressed.
The Timmy in me is crying in gleeful joy.
A very well made card, overall.
I am a: Lawful Good Dragonborn Paladin
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3 years ago ::
Jan 17, 2010 - 9:43PM
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Date Joined:
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I note that Upwelling specifically says that mana pools don't empty at the end of turns, whereas Omnath doesn't mention turns ending. Why was this? Does Omnath not actually preserve green mana across turns; or was this an oversight; or was this done intentionally to fit the ability onto two lines despite the ambiguity?
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3 years ago ::
Jan 17, 2010 - 10:07PM
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Date Joined:
Jan 10, 2010
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I note that Upwelling specifically says that mana pools don't empty at the end of turns, whereas Omnath doesn't mention turns ending. Why was this? Does Omnath not actually preserve green mana across turns; or was this an oversight; or was this done intentionally to fit the ability onto two lines despite the ambiguity?
It says your pool doesn't empty at the end of steps, and the turn ending is the end step. Your mana pool doesn't empty at the end of the end step, so it's still around the next turn.
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I just love how focused the YMtC community is.
That's what I love about posting on these forums. Everyone's an expert(except for me).
really no need to be so bitchy.
@Edacade: Awright kid you go on ahead and do your thing and don't let anyone tell you different y'hear
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Land
 , sacrifice a creature: Destroy target creature with the same converted mana cost as the sacrificed creature.
Might I just interject that making this a meme is the worst idea in magic in my opinion. It is too overpowered. It encourages cheating it in play. Essentially 99/100 times it is cheated in play instead of hardcast. Not only that, but you essentially win when it comes into play.
Make five-color hybrid tribal instant with buyback, kicker, cycling, card draw, token production, a steal effect, alternate casting cost and landfall that embodies the love that your mom and I share.
I think you just killed all chances of my card being elegant.
Ardency :1mana::symwu::symbr:
Tribal Instant - Soldier
You may have target opponent gain control of 3 permanents you control rather than pay ~'s mana cost.
As an additional cost to cast ~, choose two creatures you control, and sacrifice the rest. If you control a soldier, you can't sacrifice permanents this turn.
Landfall - If you had a land enter the battlefield under your control this turn, instead choose 4 creatures.
Kicker  
You get an emblem with "As long as you control both chosen creatures, they have protection from everything."
If ~ was kicked, creatures you control get +1/+1 for each creature card in your graveyard until end of turn.
Cycling :2mana:
When you cycle ~, put two 2/2 Soldier creatures onto the battlefield.
Would this EVER fit on a card?~
Aside from a few wording mishaps (should say "each chosen creature" because it's not necessarily two) this is nice. Very simple and elegant. I like the alternate cost a lot, and the kicker goes nicely with the sacrifice. However, the cycling seems a bit powerful (4 power and a card for 3? Cycling is supposed be ba  d  . 8/10
EDIT: Just looked up "ardency". Lol.
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But in the shadow of the great one lurked many who sought to partake of his eternal glory.
Since when am I "many"?
You're a whole damn city.
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Sorcery
As an additional cost to cast Vivisect, sacrifice a creature.
Draw three cards.
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I don't think a world that sacrifices so much would want to stop the making of children  .
Vivisect =/= vasectomy
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3 years ago ::
Jan 17, 2010 - 10:25PM
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I note that Upwelling specifically says that mana pools don't empty at the end of turns, whereas Omnath doesn't mention turns ending. Why was this? Does Omnath not actually preserve green mana across turns; or was this an oversight; or was this done intentionally to fit the ability onto two lines despite the ambiguity?
It says your pool doesn't empty at the end of steps, and the turn ending is the end step. Your mana pool doesn't empty at the end of the end step, so it's still around the next turn.
Basically, Upwelling wasn't errata-ed completely after the big rules changes last year. As CityofAs points out, the reference to "turns" on Upwelling is now redundant. There's no rule anymore that says mana pools empty at end of turns, just at the end of phases and steps.
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3 years ago ::
Jan 18, 2010 - 12:22AM
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Date Joined:
Jan 18, 2010
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It's a shame that mana burn was removed. It would've added more risk with Omnath - what would you risk to have her a certain size?
As I see her, she's too much for the cost. Why not have as much green floating? There's no risk at all.
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3 years ago ::
Jan 18, 2010 - 12:34AM
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Jan 17, 2010
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My inner Timmy wants this card.
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3 years ago ::
Jan 18, 2010 - 1:38AM
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Date Joined:
Oct 11, 2007
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Very reasonable card. Its interesting, and tapping out to charge it up could leave you at a serious risk. Unfortunately, I don't think its for me because I don't like the art very much. There's too much contrast and too much detail, which means on the table it'll look like a green splat on a black rectangle. I like cards like Wild Nacatl  and Turntimber Ranger  , because from a distance you can still tell how cool they look.
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