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3 years ago  ::  Jan 11, 2010 - 7:33PM #1
ReleaseTheAnts
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I'm prepping for a couple of GP Trials and maybe even Oakland. I saw the swathstorm deck on wizards, and it is hell o' cheap, but is it a threat to the format?
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May 6, 2010 -- 9:08AM, useless_mancer wrote:

May 6, 2010 -- 3:57AM, ReleaseTheAnts wrote:

I just realized how large a pain in the ass it's going to be to break down regionals like this


but look on the bright side, [b]Ding Dong jund is dead[b], it's not the boogyman anymore XD


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May 2, 2010 -- 9:34PM, Razorgore wrote:

May 2, 2010 -- 9:31PM, ReleaseTheAnts wrote:


Near Death Experience?


Gideon is not impressed by your triple white, incredibly difficult-to-manlipulate jank card.


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Jan 18, 2011 -- 11:22AM, Niche wrote:

MaRo keeps stabbing me in the face with cards like Phyrexian Rebirth. It's a black card.. with black art... in a white layer with white costs.

Up yours, design team.




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3 years ago  ::  Jan 11, 2010 - 7:34PM #2
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I think it looks pretty cool, but i have no idea whether it will be truly ground breaking, seems a bit risky to me.
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3 years ago  ::  Jan 11, 2010 - 7:38PM #3
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I don't think it's that legit.  I think most people on the forums would agree nauseam storm is better, plus swath storm is more draw-dependant.
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3 years ago  ::  Jan 11, 2010 - 8:58PM #4
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i havent seen any nauseum storm lists so i dont know how much better it can be, but ive been doing alot of testing of swathstorm. as evilweevil said, its very draw-dependant. the deck itself has been fantastic, the only problem has been the consistency. thus far in testing, i get alot of turn 3-4 kills, a few turn 2 kills, but there have been a surprising number of games where i dont even come close to the combo, even with a great opening hand. 
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3 years ago  ::  Jan 12, 2010 - 7:31AM #5
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Jan 11, 2010 -- 8:58PM, sacub13 wrote:

i havent seen any nauseum storm lists so i dont know how much better it can be, but ive been doing alot of testing of swathstorm. as evilweevil said, its very draw-dependant. the deck itself has been fantastic, the only problem has been the consistency. thus far in testing, i get alot of turn 3-4 kills, a few turn 2 kills, but there have been a surprising number of games where i dont even come close to the combo, even with a great opening hand. 



Right, which is why I think nauseam is better.  First of all with nauseam, you don't have to draw both pieces, but can resolve a nauseam and draw into angel's grace.  In addition, rather than having to be able to storm enough to actually kill you just get to the six mana and win.  Angel's grace also has split second, which is nice.

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3 years ago  ::  Jan 12, 2010 - 12:07PM #6
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Okay, so it may not work for Oakland itself, but is it the kind of think that can pull out a shock win at Trials or a grinder?
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May 6, 2010 -- 9:08AM, useless_mancer wrote:

May 6, 2010 -- 3:57AM, ReleaseTheAnts wrote:

I just realized how large a pain in the ass it's going to be to break down regionals like this


but look on the bright side, [b]Ding Dong jund is dead[b], it's not the boogyman anymore XD


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May 2, 2010 -- 9:34PM, Razorgore wrote:

May 2, 2010 -- 9:31PM, ReleaseTheAnts wrote:


Near Death Experience?


Gideon is not impressed by your triple white, incredibly difficult-to-manlipulate jank card.


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Jan 18, 2011 -- 11:22AM, Niche wrote:

MaRo keeps stabbing me in the face with cards like Phyrexian Rebirth. It's a black card.. with black art... in a white layer with white costs.

Up yours, design team.




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3 years ago  ::  Jan 12, 2010 - 1:28PM #7
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Jan 12, 2010 -- 12:07PM, ReleaseTheAnts wrote:

Okay, so it may not work for Oakland itself, but is it the kind of think that can pull out a shock win at Trials or a grinder?



Yeah, for sure.  If you run lucky and are drawing well it's a really quality deck.  So it can definitely do well.

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3 years ago  ::  Jan 12, 2010 - 1:52PM #8
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Jan 12, 2010 -- 12:07PM, ReleaseTheAnts wrote:

Okay, so it may not work for Oakland itself, but is it the kind of think that can pull out a shock win at Trials or a grinder?




yes. testing has shown me that this deck, though not as consistent as TEPS was, is still fast enough to take on aggro while still having good matchups against control. 

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3 years ago  ::  Jan 21, 2010 - 8:32PM #9
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So far I've tested against a few extended decks and had some mixed results

Tezzerator/thopter-sword/UW thing: I actually like this matchup. the trick is timing it to avoid catching like ALL the counterspells.

Dark Depths Combo: Discard is pesky, hatching plans/perilous thoughts becomes much more important. Repeal out of the board for Marit Lage

Bant (later took 3rd place at PTQ last saturday): Like zoo, with blue... Jitte gets remanded, meddling mage gets repealed and maybe I can sneak through, rough for sure...
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May 6, 2010 -- 9:08AM, useless_mancer wrote:

May 6, 2010 -- 3:57AM, ReleaseTheAnts wrote:

I just realized how large a pain in the ass it's going to be to break down regionals like this


but look on the bright side, [b]Ding Dong jund is dead[b], it's not the boogyman anymore XD


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May 2, 2010 -- 9:34PM, Razorgore wrote:

May 2, 2010 -- 9:31PM, ReleaseTheAnts wrote:


Near Death Experience?


Gideon is not impressed by your triple white, incredibly difficult-to-manlipulate jank card.


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Jan 18, 2011 -- 11:22AM, Niche wrote:

MaRo keeps stabbing me in the face with cards like Phyrexian Rebirth. It's a black card.. with black art... in a white layer with white costs.

Up yours, design team.




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3 years ago  ::  Jan 22, 2010 - 6:47PM #10
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Jan 11, 2010 -- 7:38PM, evilweevil666 wrote:

  I think most people on the forums would agree nauseam storm is better,



Can you direct me to a list, please?
I've been looking for something to play, but being that this is my first rotation, I don't know how to handle it.

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How;s a 2 drop 1/2, Flying broken? What am I missing?



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