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Dec 22, 2012 - 11:04AM
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I like that idea. The creature in question is a legendary griffin, so it makes some sense that it could make other griffins more fierce. Unfortunately, Aurora Griffin  and Screeching Griffin  exist, so that interaction would just be too powerful for this particular creature type.
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Dec 22, 2012 - 11:11AM
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I'm not sure if you like this, but here are two possible versions that avoid that problem: "Whenever you activate an ability of a griffin for the first time in a turn, that griffin deals damage equal to its power target creature."/ "Whenever you activate an ability of a griffin that targets another creature, that griffin deals one damage to that creature for each color of mana spent this way."
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Dec 22, 2012 - 11:13AM
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This one is complicated, so I might end up taking it to the Rules Theory forum, but I figured I'd try here first. Basically, I want an activated ability that lets a creature fight another creature like it has double strike.
First version
   ,  : ~ deals damage equal to its power to target creature. Then, ~ fights that creature. (They only fight if both are still on the battlefield.)
This one doesn't work as intended, because the creature would never actually die in between the "first strike" and the fighting.
Second version
, : ~ deals damage equal to its power to target creature.
Whenever ~ deals noncombat damage to another creature, ~ fights that creature. (They only fight if both are still on the battlefield.)
I thought this one worked the way I wanted it to, until I realized that the triggered ability triggers itself. This is especially problematic if the creature somehow ended up fighting something like a Darksteel Myr  .
Third Version
, : ~ fights target creature. (They only fight if both are still on the battlefield.)
Whenever you activate an ability of ~'s that targets a creature, ~ deals damage equal to its power to that creature.
This is where I'm at currently. It's ugly, but it works (I think). I took aspects from Ceaseless Searblades  and Reparations  and sort of combined them together. So now I'll ask, can anyone come up with anything better?
I'm not much of a rules buff, but would something like this work?: , , ~ deals damage to target creature equal to its power: ~ fights that creature. Edit: i.e. Do state based actions check inbetween paying costs and effects?
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5 months ago ::
Dec 22, 2012 - 11:26AM
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This one is complicated, so I might end up taking it to the Rules Theory forum, but I figured I'd try here first. Basically, I want an activated ability that lets a creature fight another creature like it has double strike.
First version
, : ~ deals damage equal to its power to target creature. Then, ~ fights that creature. (They only fight if both are still on the battlefield.)
This one doesn't work as intended, because the creature would never actually die in between the "first strike" and the fighting.
Second version
, : ~ deals damage equal to its power to target creature.
Whenever ~ deals noncombat damage to another creature, ~ fights that creature. (They only fight if both are still on the battlefield.)
I thought this one worked the way I wanted it to, until I realized that the triggered ability triggers itself. This is especially problematic if the creature somehow ended up fighting something like a Darksteel Myr .
Third Version
, : ~ fights target creature. (They only fight if both are still on the battlefield.)
Whenever you activate an ability of ~'s that targets a creature, ~ deals damage equal to its power to that creature.
This is where I'm at currently. It's ugly, but it works (I think). I took aspects from Ceaseless Searblades and Reparations and sort of combined them together. So now I'll ask, can anyone come up with anything better?
I'm not much of a rules buff, but would something like this work?:
, , ~ deals damage to target creature equal to its power: ~ fights that creature.
Edit: i.e. Do state based actions check inbetween paying costs and effects?
That's an interesting idea. Costs can't target, though, and it feels weird to have such a beneficial effect being treated as a cost.
@cats_and_me: Those certainly solve the power-level issue, but at this point, I think I prefer my third version.
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5 months ago ::
Dec 22, 2012 - 12:47PM
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5 months ago ::
Dec 22, 2012 - 6:04PM
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It could be a delayed trigger too. Or maybe similar to City of Brass  ,  : NAME fights target creature. Whenever NAME becomes tapped, it deals damage equal to it's power to target creature. But then it could fight two different creatures... You could say: Fights target creature that it dealt damage to this turn. Then when you tap it for it's ability it deals damage to a creature, and you then can fight that creature or some other creature it happened to damage this turn.
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5 months ago ::
Dec 23, 2012 - 2:34PM
#2317
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Dec 10, 2005
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Rolling Kick –  Tribal Instant – Ninja Target creature in your hand gains Ninjitsu  until end of turn, where is its converted mana cost minus  . theatog was nice enough to point out that you can't target cards in hidden zones. Is there any way to make this work?
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5 months ago ::
Dec 23, 2012 - 3:14PM
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You may reveal a creature card from your hand. If you do, that card gains Ninjitsu  until end of turn, where X is its converted mana cost minus 2. That should work. Hopefully you don't mind revealing it, since you're most likely about to ninja it into play anyway.
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5 months ago ::
Dec 23, 2012 - 11:45PM
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Unfortunately, that still doesn't work, because there's no way to distinguish between different cards with the same name in the hand, so the card can't gain properties. Only cards in revealed zones can have their properties changed. I think I'd word it as: Rolling Kick – Tribal Instant – NinjaAs an additional cost to cast this spell, reveal a creature card in your hand and pay , where X is that card's converted mana cost minus 2.
Return target unblocked attacker you control to your hand. Put the revealed card onto the battlefield tapped and attacking.
You could also make returning the creature a cost, so it works with shroud, like this:
Rolling Kick –
Tribal Instant – Ninja
As an additional cost to cast this spell, reveal a creature card in your hand and pay , where X is that card's converted mana cost minus 2, and return an unblocked attacking creature you control to your hand.
Put the revealed card onto the battlefield from your hand tapped and attacking.
It looks ugly, but it works. Granting ninjutsu does not.
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5 months ago ::
Dec 24, 2012 - 5:02AM
#2320
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Embrace imagination.
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Each of its nine tails is imbued with supernatural power, and it can live for a thousand years.
My Standard deck: Setting SunThink of how Neo couldn't beat the robots, but they kept him around anyways to defeat Agent Smith. Sure, the robots might not like having a Neo running rampant because instead of playing their favorite 4 drop fatty robot, they have to play a bunch of one mana Matrixs to contain him, but at least Neo keeps Agent Smith from reanimating an Iona on turn two.
Are you saying I'm trying to blame my loss on something? I don't care that I lost, I care that he's a sore loser, and a cheater, and a liar.
CKY, are you bad at anything?
I really enjoy imagining this from Kevin's perspective. Because in Kevin's world, Rosewater actually reads everything he types. Mark is sitting there right now, reading this, and thinking "The greatest trick the devil ever pulled. . ." Or some such. He chuckles low, then clicks on "The Best Of KEVINSET" and says "Yes, this'll do just fine. A busty lady with banding who deals direct damage to Zones!? Why this will be the star of my next set, and no one will ever believe you Kevin." Then he closes his Macbook, so his servant may move it out of the way, while another servant puts a Fetal Richard Garfield Clone lathered in Steak Sauce in front of him. Then Mark Feasts.
I mean, In KevinWorld, Mark is reading the very words I'm typing as well. Heck, in KevinWorld maybe I am Mark.
I'm beginning to think CKY may be anime in real life...
Don't go anywhere CKY, I need to crash dramatically through your window and propose marriage and I don't want you throwing off my paradrop.
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Upon reading this, I've found myself completely unable to operate in the world. I tried to decide what to eat for breakfast, and pondered the vast consequences of my choice. How do I balance my dietary needs against my desire to eat good-tasting food? Should I factor in how long it takes to prepare? Cereal is ready in moments, but bacon takes longer to cook.
Then there is the impact on other industries. Do people in the cereal industry deserve to be employed more than people in the bacon industry? Which industry should I support? I don't even have the data regarding HOW MUCH the cereal industry benefits from me eating a bowl of cereal, or how much the bacon industry benefits from me eating a side of bacon. How can I compare two qualities I can't even quantify?
And let's not forget the milk on the cereal. In addition to determining whether or not milk is healthy for me, how much that benefits the milk industry, and how much the people in the milk industry deserve my support, we have to factor in the fact that cows are put under brutal conditions in order to collect thier milk. Of course, the same goes for the pigs, and then they get killed. Of course, I really like bacon. So I need to come up with a scale that compares the value of cow happiness to pig happiness to my happiness. What trade-offs am I willing to make here? Does the fact that the pig gets put out of its misery count as a plus or a minus? Isn't bacon bad for me anyway?
Deciding what to eat for breakfast (or any meal) is impossible. Help me!
I must admit chinkeeyong, you have the most interesting character ideas; and you play them well.
Anyway, you'd be surprised about Time Stop. When I first saw that card as a relatively new player I didn't see its full potential until I read the reminder text. Is it that unintuitive, though? Mine I mean. What is possibility? Is it possible for me to type these words with my tusks? No, because I don't have tusks. Although I am now tempted to go buy some - obviously not from poachers or whatever - and use them as typing apparatus. I could be the best secretary ever. "What's your words per minute sir?" "Well, only six, but I use these tusks to type them." "You're hired!" That was the interview. And is anyone else disappointed that "apparati" is not the plural form of apparatus? I just could strangle a dictionary, because "apparatuses" is a real word. I guess it sounds pretty cool. I'll call them my Apparatusks.
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