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3 years ago  ::  Dec 05, 2009 - 11:05AM #21
Sir_Bruce
Date Joined: Sep 14, 2009
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Dec 4, 2009 -- 11:14AM, WotC_Monty wrote:

Dec 3, 2009 -- 11:31PM, Oporaca wrote:

Steamflogger Boss : The First Amendment is well-known for its protection of speech, religion, and the press. Less frequently mentioned are the rights of petition and, as in this case, assembly...




I didn't want to use Steamflogger Boss , because it's somewhat controversial. But it gives a free assembly! How can I turn that down?




Well if you want to showcase a card that demonstrates both Freedom of Speech and Freedom of Religion, might I suggest Blessed Orator ?

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3 years ago  ::  Dec 06, 2009 - 5:37AM #22
C9owy
Date Joined: Dec 10, 2006
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it would be great if you could do following card as wallpaper:
River of Tears

resolutions:
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1680x1050

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3 years ago  ::  Dec 06, 2009 - 6:44PM #23
Mistform_Mage
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Dec 5, 2009 -- 7:45AM, quitequieter wrote:

i'm not saying you don't have a right to your opinion, or that i don't understand your perspective. i'm saying most people disagree. if you were in the majority, the boss wouldn't be so controversial and it's pretty much a solid fact that he is.

i think contraptions and assembling and riggers would likely turn out to be less cool than we've all imagined if they were actually made. but that doesn't make me or other people want them to never make them.



I don't think most people really disagree with me though. As a YMTC'er most of the reactions I get to it are there and the number of contraption threads are hilariouss. They wouldn't exist if Contraptions were defined. In addition him not being controversial  would make him less popular cause a crapton of people wouldn't hear about him. We wouldn't be having this argument for example and he wouldn't get his spot in arcana or articles as often as he does. Its like a murder mystery where you never find out the murderer that becomes famous because of it. Sure most people are clamoring to know but they don't really want to know. It would defeat the point and it would have just been a run-of-the-mill movie without worth of mention.

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3 years ago  ::  Dec 06, 2009 - 7:20PM #24
quitequieter
Date Joined: Oct 6, 2008
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you're right that he wouldn't be nearly as big a deal. but that isn't relevant to whether people are upset about him being a joke or want him to be supported by design. i think most people who care want contraptions to be real and are upset that they aren't. whether or not they'd even care at all about contraptions if they had existed in the first place doesn't change that they are upset they don't exist now.
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3 years ago  ::  Dec 06, 2009 - 7:49PM #25
Mistform_Mage
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Dec 6, 2009 -- 7:20PM, quitequieter wrote:

you're right that he wouldn't be nearly as big a deal. but that isn't relevant to whether people are upset about him being a joke or want him to be supported by design. i think most people who care want contraptions to be real and are upset that they aren't. whether or not they'd even care at all about contraptions if they had existed in the first place doesn't change that they are upset they don't exist now.



A lot of the people who want contraptions to be real want their version of contraptions to be real and I have heard very few identical proposals. Many would lost interest even more when their prediction is proven wrong. I guess my point is people are going to feel bad either way at least this way it isn't specifically directed at certain people (ie. people who guessed wrong).

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3 years ago  ::  Dec 07, 2009 - 6:03AM #26
quitequieter
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maybe that's true among ymtc people (it would make sense) but i don't know if it's true among the general population. and also there's been so much time since he came out, and people have known for a while that no official support was planned. so that is going to have some effect on people's expectations.
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3 years ago  ::  Dec 07, 2009 - 6:12AM #27
Hacimen
Date Joined: Oct 23, 2006
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And that is why it belonged in an Un-set. I know there are some that believe the effect was greater by it being given black-bordered authenticity, and there is something to that, but it was just not that way for enough people. Any card can be loved by someone. As an Un-card it would have all of the YMTC goodness without any of the disappointment that accompanied its existence in a black-bordered set (a lot of people were flat-out insulted). You certainly wouldn't have a card a subset of ameteur designers liked and the vast majority hated.

And yes, it was hated. We don't get cards like this anymore for a reason, and that reason is not that it was universally loved except for a handful of people in a forum. Besides the obvious, the big problem that prevented it from being really believable was before the set came out, when they admitted there would be red herrings in the set. If the intention was really to make this believable in a "could happen" context, they should never have said anything at all about the fakes. AF's "elbow to the ribs" article where they admitted that yes, this was one of them (and don't you feel stupid for pulling one, sucker!) was the catalyst for a change made with regards to bad rares. Perhaps if we were all still officially under the pretense that every card would likely see print eventually, the card would have more meaning. (That's a big "perhaps.") But in the end it was a great learning experience for R&D. I think it has served a much greater purpose.
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3 years ago  ::  Dec 07, 2009 - 7:08AM #28
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Jan 14, 2012 -- 5:42PM, Vektor480 wrote:

I like storm crow because I really like crows in real life, as an animal, and the card isn't terribly stupid, but packs a good deal of nostalgia and also a chunck of the game's history. So it's perhaps one of the cards I have most affection to, but not because "lol storm crow is bad hurr hurr durr".


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Mar 17, 2011 -- 10:28PM, Qmark wrote:

Mar 17, 2011 -- 10:15PM, ROBRAM89 wrote:

Although I do assume you deliberately refer to them (DCI) as The Grand Imperial Convocation of Evil just for the purposes of making them sound like an ancient and terrible conspiracy.

Now, now.
1994 doesn't quite qualify as "ancient".


Oct 11, 2011 -- 9:43PM, Tevish_Szat wrote:

Oh, it's a brilliant plan.  You see, Bolas was travelling through shadowmoor, causing trouble, when he saw a Wickerbough Elder with its stylin' dead scarecrow hat.  Now, Bolas being Bolas took the awesome hat and he put it on his head, but even with all his titanic powers of magic he couldn't make it fit.  He grabbed some more scarecrows, but then a little kithkin girl asked if he was trying to build a toupee.  "BY ALL THE POWERS IN THE MULTIVERSE!" he roared, "I WILL HAVE A HAT WORTHY OF MY GLORY." and so he went through his Dark Lore of Doom (tm) looking for something he could make into a hat that would look as stylish on him as a scarecrow does on a treefolk.  He thought about the Phyrexians, but they were covered in goopy oil that would make his nonexistant hair greasy.  He Tried out angels for a while but they didn't sit quite right.  Then, he looked under "e" (because in the Elder Draconic alphabet, "e" for Eldrazi is right next to "h" for Hat) in his Dark Lore of Doom and saw depictions of the Eldrazi, and all their forms.
"THIS SHALL BE MY HAT!" he declared, poking a picture of Emrakul, "AND WITH IT I WILL USHER IN A NEW AGE OF DARKNESS -- ER, I MEAN A NEW AGE OF FASHION!"

And so Nicol Bolas masterminded the release of the Eldrazi.


Feb 25, 2012 -- 2:54PM, Mown wrote:

Rhox War Monk just flips pancakes, and if games have told us anything, it's that food = life.


Jul 11, 2011 -- 10:47PM, Qmark wrote:

Jul 11, 2011 -- 10:36PM, SleetFox wrote:

This thread has gotten creepy.  XP

Really?
Really?

The last couple days have been roughly every perverse fetish imaginable, but it only got "creepy" when speculation on Mother of Runes's mob affiliation came up?


Jun 26, 2011 -- 5:52AM, MrQuizzles wrote:

Jun 26, 2011 -- 4:59AM, Mown wrote:

Jun 26, 2011 -- 4:44AM, skeindubh wrote:


4 tropical island
4 savannah
4 bayou
4 taiga
4 savannah


Nice mana base.
Not really.



Yeah, really. If my deck was going to cost $1000+, I'd at least make it good.


May 2, 2011 -- 8:18AM, desolation_masticore wrote:

I like to think up what I consider clever names for my decks, only later to be laughed at by my wife. It kills me a little on the inside, but thats what marriage is about.


Apr 3, 2011 -- 1:39AM, DrWorm wrote:

Apr 3, 2011 -- 12:02AM, crazysamaritan wrote:

Of course, the best use [of tolaria west ] is transmuting for the real Tolaria.



Absolutely.  I used to loose to my buddy's Banding deck for ages, it was then that I found out about Tolaria , and I was finally able win my first game.


Aug 30, 2011 -- 5:17PM, Maraxas-of-Keld wrote:

WOAH

wait wait wait

Aug 30, 2011 -- 5:07PM, RPJesus wrote:

You know, being shallow and jusdgmental aside, "I later found out that Jon infiltrated his way into OKCupid dates with at least two other people"



Aug 30, 2011 -- 5:07PM, RPJesus wrote:

"I later found out that Jon infiltrated his way into OKCupid dates with at least two other people"



Aug 30, 2011 -- 5:07PM, RPJesus wrote:

Jon infiltrated his way into OKCupid dates



Aug 30, 2011 -- 5:07PM, RPJesus wrote:

Jon infiltrated



OH MY GOD


Nov 22, 2011 -- 3:52PM, Pontiac wrote:

The only way I'd cast this card is into a bonfire.


Oct 10, 2011 -- 8:55PM, Glasir wrote:

The short answer is that there's no rule barring annoying people from posting, but there a rule barring us from harassing them about it.


Jan 21, 2011 -- 7:11AM, Qmark wrote:


Browbeat is a card that is an appropriate deck choice when there's no better idea available.
"No better idea available" was pretty much the running theme of Odyssey era.


Jul 10, 2012 -- 11:28AM, Dragon_Nut wrote:

Or perhaps it was a more straightforward comment indicating a wish for you to be bitten (Perhaps repeatedly) by a small yet highly venomous arachnid.



Aug 3, 2011 -- 6:46PM, ChaosLight wrote:

You're an idiot, and I'm in no mood for silliness.


Oct 10, 2011 -- 7:30PM, Vektor480 wrote:

Oct 10, 2011 -- 5:53PM, Rubik wrote:

You just... Vektor it.


That's the answer to everything.


Jan 17, 2011 -- 6:16PM, Maraxas-of-Keld wrote:

Jan 17, 2011 -- 5:58PM, Ragnarokio wrote:


I think the problem is that you don't exist.


This would sound great out of context!


Dec 19, 2011 -- 9:07PM, Dilleux_Lepaire wrote:

Modern is like playing a new tournament every time : you build a deck, you win with it, don't bother keeping it. Just build another, its key pieces will get banned.


Aug 4, 2011 -- 2:15PM, Mown wrote:

Aug 4, 2011 -- 1:45PM, Suudsu2200 wrote:


I specifically remember posting a thread when I was just a witty bitty noob.


You make it sound like that's still not the case.


Jan 4, 2011 -- 3:04AM, Niklor wrote:

Rap is what happens when the c from crap is taken away.


Doug Beyer:

But sometimes it's also challenging. Because sometimes OH MY GOD, WHAT THE HELL IS THIS THING?


Mar 20, 2012 -- 1:32PM, Terti wrote:

Flashforward five thousand years (Click for atmosphere) :


Aug 15, 2011 -- 8:06PM, Veslfen wrote:

to paraphrase Jeff Goldblum, Vektor finds a way.


Aug 1, 2011 -- 12:35AM, Ragnarokio wrote:

when in rome RAPE AND PILLAGE


Jan 31, 2012 -- 11:23AM, TchainT wrote:

I always find it helpful when im angry to dress up in an owl costume and rub pennies all over my body in front of a full body mirror next to the window.


Dymecoar:

Playing Magic without Blue is like sleeping without any sheets or blankets.  You can do it...but why?


Omega137:

Me: "I love the moment when a control deck stabilizes. It feels so... right."
Omega137: "I like the life drop part until you get there, it's the MtG variant of bungee jumping"


Zigeif777:

Just do it like Yu-Gi-Oh or monkeys: throw all the crap you got at them and hope it works or else the by-standers (or opponents) just get dirty and pissed.


Apr 1, 2011 -- 10:29AM, JustTerrorIt wrote:

Apr 1, 2011 -- 10:09AM, quadibloc wrote:

It's true that Alpha and Beta didn't contain any cards like Tarmogoyf , Darksteel Colossus , or Platinum Angel . It just contained weak, insignificant cards like Black Lotus , Mox Sapphire , and Time Walk .


Normally it's difficult to pick up on your jokes/sarcasm. But this one's pretty much out there. Good progress. You have moved up to Humanoid. You'll be Human in no time.


Sep 26, 2010 -- 5:11PM, Test-Subject_217601 wrote:

Sep 26, 2010 -- 5:06PM, NeoMint wrote:

I didn't know Samurai were known to be able to cut down whole armies...


They can when they're using lightsabers !


Sep 19, 2011 -- 11:59AM, Sebanovich wrote:

Sep 19, 2011 -- 11:54AM, Long_Con wrote:

My wife brought home a baby black squirrel they found on a horse track and cared for it for a few days.  We named it Grixis, but it died. 


Unearth it!


Jan 15, 2011 -- 8:07PM, Maraxas-of-Keld wrote:

I'm a Da Vinci Neurok.





And I'm on Magic Arcana. How about you?
Oh, by the way, I'm also on From the Lab now.
Twice, actually. And now with my own submited decklist!
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3 years ago  ::  Dec 07, 2009 - 11:30AM #29
quitequieter
Date Joined: Oct 6, 2008
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i like, but don't love, the original. this one i couldn't care less about.
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3 years ago  ::  Dec 07, 2009 - 4:50PM #30
Bezman
Date Joined: Sep 26, 2007
Posts: 359

Dec 7, 2009 -- 6:12AM, Hacimen wrote:

We don't get cards like this anymore for a reason, and that reason is not that it was universally loved except for a handful of people in a forum.




Or maybe it's because such a card would have no place in a set other than Future Sight.

For what it's worth, it's my favourite card of the set. I agree that uncommon would be a better place for it, though.

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