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4 years ago  ::  Nov 12, 2009 - 10:23AM #1
WotC_Greg
Date Joined: Jul 6, 2006
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It's almost time for the 2009 World Championships, the crowning event of the Pro Tour season. Starting November 19, Worlds features 6 rounds of Standard, 6 rounds of Zendikar Booster Draft, 6 rounds of Extended, and 4 rounds of National Team play with the national teams playing Standard, Extended, and Legacy decks. The event concludes November 22 with the individual Top 8 (Standard) and the Team Finals.

The live webcast of 2009 Worlds will start Sunday, November 22 at 3:45 a.m. ET. Watch the Top 8 as Magic crowns its 2009 World team and individual champions!

Here's a handy time zone guide to figure out when the webcast starts in your neighborhood:

Los Angeles: 12:45 a.m.
Chicago: 2:45 a.m.
New York: 3:45 a.m.
Rio de Janeiro: 6:45 a.m.
London: 8:45 a.m.
Rome: 9:45 a.m.
Moscow: 11:45 a.m.
Tokyo: 5:45 p.m.
Sydney: 7:45 p.m.

Who will be crowned Player of the Year and Rookie of the Year? Which nation will be crowned the champion of Magic? And who will add their name to the list of Magic World Champions? Tune in starting November 19.
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4 years ago  ::  Nov 19, 2009 - 5:06AM #2
lorddotm
Date Joined: Jul 16, 2008
Posts: 242
I'm calling PV to win Worlds 2009, and I'm calling Brazil to win the Team series.


Would it be possible to post who is playing what format for the teams?
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4 years ago  ::  Nov 19, 2009 - 6:33AM #3
drippinglight
Date Joined: Oct 20, 2007
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It's pretty disheartening to already see a few top players just sleeving up jund. LSV added Master of the Wild Hunt and Saito added SGC and rampant growth. Whoopie.

Odds on 3/4 of the decks in the top 8 running bloodbraid and blightning? Certainly a good bet. Does jund make for an interesting tournament at this point? Nope.

I hope some pro's will come out swinging with real innovation.
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4 years ago  ::  Nov 19, 2009 - 10:08AM #4
Amarsir
Date Joined: Oct 28, 2006
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Gindy DQ?  Uh-oh.  Yeah, we need details.

Nov 19, 2009 -- 6:33AM, drippinglight wrote:

It's pretty disheartening to already see a few top players just sleeving up jund. LSV added Master of the Wild Hunt and Saito added SGC and rampant growth. Whoopie.

Odds on 3/4 of the decks in the top 8 running bloodbraid and blightning? Certainly a good bet. Does jund make for an interesting tournament at this point? Nope.

I hope some pro's will come out swinging with real innovation.



Apparently Jund is "only" about 1/3 of the field.  Which makes Worlds a good bit more varied than the tournaments we've been seeing so far.  But you can't go too far wrong with Jund.  In LSV's words "I did everything in my power not to play this deck, but it still has the best percentages."

Perhaps I'm mistaken on this, but given the long multi-format nature of Worlds it probably makes even more sense to "play it safe" in any format where you're not sure you have the edge.  Especially the Day 1 format.  If you take a risk and then go 0-6 then you just screwed yourself regardless of your Limited and Extended performances.  If you play a deck you know to be good, then you may not 6-0 but 4-2 or 5-1 are a great place to be with other formats to get you to top 8.

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4 years ago  ::  Nov 19, 2009 - 11:00AM #5
LostInGames
Date Joined: May 26, 2009
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Dying to know the story behind the American team getting DQ'd.  Anyone know the story?
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4 years ago  ::  Nov 19, 2009 - 11:35AM #6
av.313
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Nov 19, 2009 -- 10:08AM, Amarsir wrote:


Gindy DQ?  Uh-oh.  Yeah, we need details.




www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.a...

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4 years ago  ::  Nov 19, 2009 - 1:15PM #7
Amarsir
Date Joined: Oct 28, 2006
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Yeah I saw it.  For anyone who doesn't want to follow the link:

Gindy disqualified for not being named "Kibler"


Today Wizards of the Coast demonstrated that that DCI has high standards for rules enforcement, and proved that they will rigidly apply those rules to anyone who dares to make an error without the requisite level of experience and fame. 


In round 6 Charles Gindy made a fatal mistake.  An ability resolved that required the opponent to kill one of Gindy's creatures.  But the target was never chosen.  Gindy knew that the opponent could kill one of his wolf tokens, but didn't realize it was required.


Clearly the only penalty possible for this is a disqualification.


"At this level of anonymity, we demand a very high level of rules enforcement," said head judge Sheldon Menery.  "Sure, Brian Kibler can get away with not pointing stuff out to his opponents.  But he's "The Dragonmaster."  He's a hall of famer.  Hell, he's even been an official Wizards broadcaster.  Gindy is a guy no one even heard of until last year, so clearly he can't expect to get away with the same level of mistake.


Some critics have claimed that this system of rules provides an unfair advantage to someone like Brian Kibler in a major event like a Pro Tour.  Menery however thinks that claim ridiculous.  "The rules work just as easily against Kibler," the judge explained.  "If he were to play against someone like Kai Budde, then yeah Brian may get to miss triggers.  But Kai would get to draw like 5 extra cards before getting his first warning.  So it works both ways."


This was sadly not the only disqualification on day 1 of Worlds.  In round 3, first time PT attendee  Sean Bleven was disqualified for mispronouncing the name of Great Sable Stag.  "It's 'Sable' not 'Stable', noob." said the floor judge, before adding "GTFO."

OK to be fair, Gindy misplayed the ability on his own card, while Kibler missed his opponent's trigger.  But still, it seems like Gindy's biggest fault was the usually-newbie mistake of not shutting up afterwards. 


Also, reading the account now (and following the post-event controversy from Austin), ownership of the card had nothing to do with the judge ruling.  His example about how a 2/2 can't kill a 2/3 is completely irrelevant to knowing that the opponent must kill something.  Whereas the parallel to Austin is, IMHO, pretty damn obvious.

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DC Universe Online - action-based MMO.  Free to play.  Surprised me how well designed it is.
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4 years ago  ::  Nov 19, 2009 - 2:07PM #8
av.313
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Who's this guy and why is he a trademark?

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4 years ago  ::  Nov 19, 2009 - 4:28PM #9
middleman35
Date Joined: Mar 22, 2009
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Nov 19, 2009 -- 1:15PM, Amarsir wrote:

Yeah I saw it.  For anyone who doesn't want to follow the link:


Gindy disqualified for not being ....


OK to be fair, Gindy misplayed the ability on his own card, while Kibler missed his opponent's trigger. But still, it seems like Gindy's biggest fault was the usually-newbie mistake of not shutting up afterwards. 


Also, reading the account now (and following the post-event controversy from Austin), ownership of the card had nothing to do with the judge ruling.  His example about how a 2/2 can't kill a 2/3 is completely irrelevant to knowing that the opponent must kill something.  Whereas the parallel to Austin is, IMHO, pretty damn obvious.




I don't know where that clip came from, but please people, follow the actual posted link to get  much better coverage of the incident.

The difference is knowingly failing to maintain the game state, which is Fraud, and is what appears to have happened in this case.  Or accidentally failing to maintain the game state, which by all accounts I've heard is what happened in Austin.
Yes if Gindy had kept his mouth shut he may have gotten away with it (but in that case it would definitely been intentional Fraud).  The fact that he openly brought it up after the fact is likely going to save him from a harsher Ban or other penalty.

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4 years ago  ::  Nov 19, 2009 - 8:20PM #10
thickasabrick
Date Joined: Jun 1, 2007
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Bummer for Team USA.
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