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3 years ago ::
Nov 23, 2009 - 6:22AM
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Semifinals (coming soon due to technical error)
You have a very weird definition of "soon" just so you guys know. Most people wouldnt write down "I will be back soon" and then still not shown up 12-13 hours later.
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3 years ago ::
Nov 23, 2009 - 10:19AM
#62
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When I woke up yesterday it was just in time for the finals. Even knowing the ending it would be nice to see the semis. Hopefully they provide a more interesting pair of matchups. If they have to re-encode the footage that could explain the delay.
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3 years ago ::
Nov 23, 2009 - 11:07AM
#63
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By the way, Gindy's situation was apparently that the wolf shouldn't have died anyway, which is why his opponent didn't do anything, but Gindy didn't exactly understand or something. So he still thought his wolf should've died, but intentionally didn't let his opponent know.
Please explain?
I still think my write-up on the first page of the thread explained it well. 
But the best write-up of the details seems to be this one on Channel Fireball. They also have two more follow-up articles about the incident, on opposite sides of the ruling, but like the bottom half of this article they are more about opinion and rules enforcement procedure than about the facts of the event itself.
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3 years ago ::
Nov 23, 2009 - 11:46AM
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I don't know, I can't shake the feeling that this may have been an overreaction. I am not a game rules expert or a tournament expert, but I understand the game state to be the responsibility of both players. No account is clear as to whether or not Gindy's opponent actually did assign the two damage back to the only legal target, the 3/3 that would not die as a result. If he did that, there should be no issue at all even after the question "why didn't you kill a smaller wolf?" I could see the DQ if it was understood that the 3/3 received no damage at all that turn, but this seems to be an incomplete recounting. There has got to be more to the story than this. Am I off here?
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3 years ago ::
Nov 23, 2009 - 12:02PM
#65
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I'm sure we'll be hearing about it all week.
My hang-up is this: The entire punishment is predicated on Gindy knowing something but not saying it. But the whole situation demonstrates that he _didn't_ know, because he was confused. So in order to hand down this ruling, Sheldon had to determine a very precise level of understanding in a cloud of misunderstanding. No judge is a mind reader.
In order to justify this, Gindy would have to say "Even though I didn't know the card said 'untapped' I knew completely that it was a 'must' ability AND I knew he didn't target my 3/3 BUT I chose not to say anything." Anything short of that and you've punished him for an innocent mistake (at worst). And that confession is so specific that I'm incredulous it could have happened.
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3 years ago ::
Nov 23, 2009 - 12:16PM
#66
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Thanks, that was kind of my feeling after reading that article. I do hope there was a little more to it- DQ at Worlds is pretty devastating.
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3 years ago ::
Nov 24, 2009 - 9:41AM
#67
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This is a little late now, but as I'm sitting here watching the semifinals I would like to say that I really appreciate the effort made to let us know what's in the players' hands. Between the camera angles and Randy's play-by-play, I always knew what was going on and it dramatically improves the viewing experience.
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3 years ago ::
Nov 24, 2009 - 1:21PM
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It's unfortunate they no longer post all the standard decklists being played. I would like to know what some of the decks that didn't finish above 5-1 look like, such as the 4c control decks, both the blue and non-blue version.
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3 years ago ::
Nov 24, 2009 - 2:25PM
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This is a little late now, but as I'm sitting here watching the semifinals I would like to say that I really appreciate the effort made to let us know what's in the players' hands. Between the camera angles and Randy's play-by-play, I always knew what was going on and it dramatically improves the viewing experience.
I have heard Randy is retiring from calling the games, and while I don't blame him I am a little saddened. I mean really....who else is going to be so honestly enthusiastic to say "Lightning Helix! Oh my god! OH MY GOD!!!" 
I think he and BDM have a great rapport, and, geek that I am, I even emailed them about it a couple of years ago.
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3 years ago ::
Nov 24, 2009 - 3:15PM
#70
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Rich Hagon's taking over. He'll do a great job, but yeah Randy had a unique tone that will be missed. I actually think this was his best year, despite (or perhaps because of?) not being a WotC employee. It's unfortunate they no longer post all the standard decklists being played. I would like to know what some of the decks that didn't finish above 5-1 look like, such as the 4c control decks, both the blue and non-blue version.
I bet they will, it just takes more time.
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