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4 years ago  ::  Nov 11, 2009 - 2:17PM #1
WotC_Jenkot
Date Joined: Jun 10, 2009
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This thread is for discussion of this week's Top Decks Article, which goes live Thursday morning on magicthegathering.com.
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4 years ago  ::  Nov 11, 2009 - 11:19PM #2
Amarsir
Date Joined: Oct 28, 2006
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Colors on the SSG top 8 chart are backwards, though it's not exactly the most complicated data to absorb anyway.

Here's the problem I have with these "Game Day" decks: they're fun to look at, but there is absolutely no sense of context.  I feel like these are small shops that have 12 people show up, 8 make the cut to have decks sent to Wizards, and then we look at the 5th place one like it's some accomplishment.

The same problem exists with the Daily Decklists for the last 2 weeks, except that feature has no pretense of competitiveness.  But this is Top Decks.

Case in point, the Summoning Trap deck has 1 Baneslayer Angel, 1 Rampaging Baloths, and 1 Battlegrace Angel, as well as some other questionable numbers.  I'm pretty sure that would be a bigger Baneslayer number if not for their price.  And as someone who's always budget-conscious I can respect that.  But it undermines the results when that deck, and likely the ones it was playing against, weren't in their top form.

Fortunately Worlds is in a week and change, so then we'll have some real data on Standard.
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4 years ago  ::  Nov 11, 2009 - 11:21PM #3
fractal
Date Joined: Oct 23, 2003
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A lot of interesting decks there; I'm sorry to see the Baneslayer Angels in that last one, it's nice when decks are affordable.


Anyway, two comments:  Regarding the first deck, a Teetering Peaks-Ball Lightning combo is 8/1, not 9/1.  Second, regarding the second deck... I like the idea, but Khalni-Heart Expedition seems out of place here.  Also, if you're going to run Trapmaker's Snare in a 3-color deck, shouldn't you have more than one sort of Trap available, at least in the sideboard?  It seems like one Mindbreak Trap main could definitely pay off against Cascade, and an Arrow Volley Trap in the side might help against some types of beatdown.

Thanks to everyone who helped with the design of the plane of Golamo in the Great Designer Search 2!

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These are the decks I have assembled at the moment:

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Kicker Aggro (Invasion Block)
Sunforger / Izzet Guildmage Midrange (Ravnica/Time Spiral/Xth Standard)
Dragonstorm Combo (Time Spiral/Lorwyn/Xth Standard)
Bant Midrange (Lorwyn/Shards/M10 Standard)

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Angel Resurrection
Casual Soul Sisters
Sindbad 's Adventures with Djinn of Wishes
Sphinx-Bone Wand Buyback
Morph (No Instants or Sorceries)
Cabal Coffers Control
Zombie Aggro
Hungry, Hungry Greater Gargadon / War Elemental
Flashfires / Boil / Ruination - Boom!
Call of the Wild
Teysa, Orzhov Scion with Twilight Drover , Sun Titan , and Hivestone Slivers
Rebels
Cairn Wanderer Knights
Only Gold and Spells
Captain Sisay Toolbox
Spellweaver Helix Combo
Merfolk Wizards
Izzet Guildmage / The Unspeakable Arcane Combo
Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind and his Wizards
Creatureless Wild Research / Reins of Power Madness
Creatureless Pyromancer Ascension
Anarchist Living Death
Anvil of Bogardan Madness
Shamen with Goblin Game / Wound Reflection Combo
Mass damage Quest for Pure Flame
Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle / Clear the Land with 40+ Lands
Doubling Season Thallid s
Juniper Order Ranger Graft/Tokens
Elf Archer Druids
Equilibrium / Aluren Combo
Experiment Kraj Combo
Reap Combo
False Cure / Kavu Predator Combo
Savra, Queen of the Golgari Sacrifice/Dredge
Elf Warriors
Eight-Post
Sneak Attack Where Ancients Tread
Zur the Enchanter with Opal creatures
Tamanoa / Kavu Predator / Collapsing Borders
Esper Aggro
Mishra, Artificer Prodigy and his Darksteel Reactor
Theft and Control
Unearth Aggro
Soul's Fire Vampires
Devour Tokens
Phytohydra with Powerstone Minefield
Treefolk
Friendly? Questing Phelddagrif
Slivers
Dragon Arch Fun

I'm probably forgetting a few...

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4 years ago  ::  Nov 12, 2009 - 5:05AM #4
ZEvilMustache
Date Joined: Mar 27, 2008
Posts: 55
He seems positively peppy today. Joy!
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4 years ago  ::  Nov 12, 2009 - 6:01AM #5
writer1007
Date Joined: May 4, 2009
Posts: 408
I play at Quest Comics, I wasn't there on Game Day so I don't know what the turn out was, but on Fridays the turn out is usually about 20 people, but I must say I have not played against the deck that was listed.
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4 years ago  ::  Nov 12, 2009 - 7:44AM #6
quitequieter
Date Joined: Oct 6, 2008
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MONO GREEN YAY! and it even has eldrazi monument, which i've been waiting to see in a competitive deck.
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4 years ago  ::  Nov 12, 2009 - 9:47AM #7
mtgraptor
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He realized just now that Burst Lighting is strictly better than Shock!
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4 years ago  ::  Nov 12, 2009 - 1:05PM #8
Viltris
Date Joined: Apr 18, 2004
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I'm sorry, but red-black goblins simply doesn't work. Believe me, I tried. It loses to Volcanic Fallout.

Sure, Warren Instigator into a pair of Siege-Gang Commanders certainly feels good. But on your next attack step, your opponent just wipes them off the board with Volcanic Fallout, and you're sad again.

Sure, you could hold back your goblins to avoid the Volcanic Fallout, but this slows down your deck significantly, and goblins simply don't have enough staying power to beat most decks in mid- to late-game.
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4 years ago  ::  Nov 14, 2009 - 7:58PM #9
Thy_Eggman
Date Joined: Nov 8, 2008
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Wow, Battlezone games.  That's pretty amazing, I live about 6 miles from there... I heart Iowa!
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4 years ago  ::  Nov 15, 2009 - 7:44AM #10
Hacimen
Date Joined: Oct 23, 2006
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Nov 12, 2009 -- 9:47AM, mtgraptor wrote:

He realized just now that Burst Lighting is strictly better than Shock!




I'm not too surprised, given the math issues presented in a previous paragraph:

Anyway, there's nothing wrong with a 9/1 Ball Lightning bouncing into the red (and we mean red) zone off a Teetering Peaks.




Normally when he does this, it's shorthand for "there's is another card that I should have mentioned in this sentence, but I don't feel like telling you what it is, so spend ten minutes clicking on every card until you figure it out, then keep reading if you aren't completely irritated with me." But this time, the most logical "missing" card would be a kicked Goblin Bushwhacker, that isn't even in the decklist.

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