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4 years ago ::
Nov 11, 2009 - 2:17PM
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Date Joined:
Jun 10, 2009
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This thread is for discussion of this week's Top Decks Article, which goes live Thursday morning on magicthegathering.com.
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4 years ago ::
Nov 11, 2009 - 11:19PM
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Date Joined:
Oct 28, 2006
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Colors on the SSG top 8 chart are backwards, though it's not exactly the most complicated data to absorb anyway.
Here's the problem I have with these "Game Day" decks: they're fun to look at, but there is absolutely no sense of context. I feel like these are small shops that have 12 people show up, 8 make the cut to have decks sent to Wizards, and then we look at the 5th place one like it's some accomplishment.
The same problem exists with the Daily Decklists for the last 2 weeks, except that feature has no pretense of competitiveness. But this is Top Decks.
Case in point, the Summoning Trap deck has 1 Baneslayer Angel, 1 Rampaging Baloths, and 1 Battlegrace Angel, as well as some other questionable numbers. I'm pretty sure that would be a bigger Baneslayer number if not for their price. And as someone who's always budget-conscious I can respect that. But it undermines the results when that deck, and likely the ones it was playing against, weren't in their top form.
Fortunately Worlds is in a week and change, so then we'll have some real data on Standard.
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4 years ago ::
Nov 11, 2009 - 11:21PM
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Date Joined:
Oct 23, 2003
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A lot of interesting decks there; I'm sorry to see the Baneslayer Angels in that last one, it's nice when decks are affordable. Anyway, two comments: Regarding the first deck, a Teetering Peaks-Ball Lightning combo is 8/1, not 9/1. Second, regarding the second deck... I like the idea, but Khalni-Heart Expedition seems out of place here. Also, if you're going to run Trapmaker's Snare in a 3-color deck, shouldn't you have more than one sort of Trap available, at least in the sideboard? It seems like one Mindbreak Trap main could definitely pay off against Cascade, and an Arrow Volley Trap in the side might help against some types of beatdown.
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4 years ago ::
Nov 12, 2009 - 5:05AM
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Date Joined:
Mar 27, 2008
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He seems positively peppy today. Joy!
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4 years ago ::
Nov 12, 2009 - 6:01AM
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I play at Quest Comics, I wasn't there on Game Day so I don't know what the turn out was, but on Fridays the turn out is usually about 20 people, but I must say I have not played against the deck that was listed.
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4 years ago ::
Nov 12, 2009 - 7:44AM
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MONO GREEN YAY! and it even has eldrazi monument, which i've been waiting to see in a competitive deck.
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4 years ago ::
Nov 12, 2009 - 9:47AM
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Date Joined:
Aug 19, 2007
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He realized just now that Burst Lighting is strictly better than Shock!
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4 years ago ::
Nov 12, 2009 - 1:05PM
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Date Joined:
Apr 18, 2004
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I'm sorry, but red-black goblins simply doesn't work. Believe me, I tried. It loses to Volcanic Fallout.
Sure, Warren Instigator into a pair of Siege-Gang Commanders certainly feels good. But on your next attack step, your opponent just wipes them off the board with Volcanic Fallout, and you're sad again.
Sure, you could hold back your goblins to avoid the Volcanic Fallout, but this slows down your deck significantly, and goblins simply don't have enough staying power to beat most decks in mid- to late-game.
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4 years ago ::
Nov 14, 2009 - 7:58PM
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Wow, Battlezone games. That's pretty amazing, I live about 6 miles from there... I heart Iowa!
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4 years ago ::
Nov 15, 2009 - 7:44AM
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Date Joined:
Oct 23, 2006
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He realized just now that Burst Lighting is strictly better than Shock!
I'm not too surprised, given the math issues presented in a previous paragraph:
Anyway, there's nothing wrong with a 9/1 Ball Lightning bouncing into the red (and we mean red) zone off a Teetering Peaks.
Normally when he does this, it's shorthand for "there's is another card that I should have mentioned in this sentence, but I don't feel like telling you what it is, so spend ten minutes clicking on every card until you figure it out, then keep reading if you aren't completely irritated with me." But this time, the most logical "missing" card would be a kicked Goblin Bushwhacker, that isn't even in the decklist.
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