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3 years ago  ::  Jul 18, 2010 - 9:28AM #371
Kitaiv13
Date Joined: Mar 7, 2010
Posts: 55
guess it's a matter of opinion really. i've been debating on changing my build entirely as of late due to cards i've picked up recently.

I've been considering the following.

Creatures - 30
4x Birds of Paradise or Llanowar Elves
4x Protean Hydra
4x Lotus Cobra or Joraga Treespeaker
4x Fauna Shaman
4x Nest Invader
4x Kozilek's Predator
4x Vengevine
2x Primeval Titan

Spells - 8

4x Eldrazi Monument
2x Overrun
1x Garruk Wildspeaker
2x Leyline of Vitality

Lands - 22
4x Misty Rainforest (If I'm running the cobra)
1x Verdant Catacombs (If I'm running the cobra}
2x Mystifying Maze
1x Dread Statuary
14x Forest


Sideboard - 15
3x Pithing Needle
3x Plummet
2x Naturalize
2x River Boa
2x Fog
3x Acidic Slime or Mold Shambler








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3 years ago  ::  Jul 27, 2010 - 7:21AM #372
xxmarinexx1
Date Joined: Nov 3, 2007
Posts: 1,025
Hey Atma, haven't seen you in a very long time, anyways, maybe making your Khalni Garden and Oran-Rief 4 ofs?

You should also consider Vines of Vastwood somewhere in your MB or SB.

Jul 17, 2010 -- 10:07PM, Atmapalazzo wrote:

Jul 13, 2010 -- 8:10AM, xxmarinexx1 wrote:

So is Wolfbriar Elemental really worth running MB?




Going to have to disagree with Kitaiv on the Wolfbriar.

I've been running a list (pre-m11 mind you) that has been doing very well on Magic Online.

Lands:
17 Forest
3 Khalni Garden
2 Oran-Rief the Vastwood

Creatures:
4 Kozilek's Predator
4 Nest Invader
4 Leatherback Baloth
4 Llanowar Elves
4 Vengevine
3 Joraga Treespeaker
3 Elvish Visionary
2 Master of the Wild Hunt
2 Borderland Ranger

Spells:
3 Eldrazi Monument
3 Overrun
2 Momentous Fall

Sideboard:
4 Dragon's Claw
3 Acidic Slime
3 Bestial Menace
3 Pithing Needle
2 Fog

Sideboarding notes:

Red Deck Wins:
    -3 Elvish Visionary
    -1 Borderland Ranger
    +4 Dragon's Claw

Jund:
    Nothing

Blue-White Control Variants:
    -3 Elvish Visionary
    -2 Borderland Ranger
    -2 Master of the Wild Hunt
    -2 Momentous Fall
    +3 Bestial Menace
    +3 Pithing Needle
    +3 Acidic Slime

Bant Variants:
    -2 Borderland Ranger
    +2 Fog

Turboland:
    Nothing

Mono White Eldrazi:
    -3 Elvish Visionary
    -2 Borderland Ranger
    -1 Momentous Fall
    +3 Acidic Slime
    +3 Bestial Menace

Eldrazi Green Variants and Naya:
    -3 Elvish Visionary
    +3 Acidic Slime


Now Post M11, I have a build I am thinking of making. Looks like this:

17 Forest
4 Khalni Garden
2 Oran-Rief, the Vastwood

4 Kozilek's Predator
4 Nest Invader
4 Leatherback Baloth
4 Llanowar Elves
4 Vengevine
3 Elvish Visionary
3 Obstinate Baloth
3 Joraga Treespeaker

3 Eldrazi Monument
3 Overrun
2 Momentous Fall

Sideboard:
4 Acidic Slime
3 Plummet
3 Mitotic Slime
3 Autumn's Veil
2 Pithing Needle

Magic 2011 Sideboarding notes:

Red Deck Wins:
    Nothing

Jund:
    -3 Elvish Visionary
    +3 Mitotic Slime

Blue-White Control Variants:
    -3 Elvish Visionary
    -3 Obstinate Baloth
    -2 Momentous Fall
    +3 Mitotic Slime
    +3 Plummet/Autumn's Veil (depends on how Draw/Go the deck is)
    +2 Pithing Needle

Bant Variants:
    Nothing

Turboland:
    -3 Elvish Visionary
    +3 Plummet (Only g3 if I see Roil Elemental g2)

Mono White Eldrazi:
    -3 Elvish Visionary
    -1 Obstinate Baloth
    +4 Acidic Slime

Eldrazi Green Variants and Naya:
    -3 Elvish Visionary
    +3 Acidic Slime


Also: Yes, this is my REAL return to the forum. I also know how to autocard, didn't feel like it.




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Eldrazi Green

Red Deck Wins

Naya


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3 years ago  ::  Aug 10, 2010 - 5:11PM #373
magicguy1
Date Joined: May 16, 2004
Posts: 1,088
This is the list I've been running since M11 came out:

// Lands
    18 [M10] Forest (3)
    3 [WWK] Khalni Garden
    2 [ZEN] Oran-Rief, the Vastwood

// Creatures
    2 [M10] Great Sable Stag
    4 [ROE] Joraga Treespeaker
    3 [ROE] Kozilek's Predator
    4 [WWK] Leatherback Baloth
    4 [ROE] Nest Invader
    2 [ZEN] River Boa
    2 [WWK] Wolfbriar Elemental
    4 [M10] Elvish Visionary
    4 [M10] Llanowar Elves

// Spells
    3 [ZEN] Eldrazi Monument
    1 [M10] Garruk Wildspeaker
    4 [M10] Overrun

// Sideboard
SB: 1 [M10] Great Sable Stag
SB: 2 [WWK] Wolfbriar Elemental
SB: 4 [M11] Obstinate Baloth
SB: 3 [M11] Brittle Effigy
SB: 2 [ROE] Naturalize
SB: 1 [ROE] Jaddi Lifestrider
SB: 2 [M10] Fog

I haven't had a chance to test it much since I've been playing RDW at FNM while I have the chance. Originaly, I had 2 Monuments in the main and one in the board, but I found myself bringing it in for a majority of my matches, so I just moved it to the main. The Jaddi Lifestrider could easily be another Fog. I heard someone mention the card and thought it might be decent as a 1-of against Jund and RDW.  I like the MD Wolfbriars. They use to be Bestial Menace in the main and the side. I figured that you get the same amount of power from Wolfbriar as you do for Bestial Menace at 5 mana. Granted, the extra body from Bestial menace is relevant for Overrun/Monument. Unlike Bestial Menace, however, Wolfbriar gives you the option to play it for 4 in a pinch or to play it for 6+ to get more out of it. You can also trade 2 Eldrazi Spawn tokens for 2 Wolf tokens a lot of the time. I wouldn't run more than 2 in the main though.

I find that U/W is probably our toughest matchup. I bring in Stag, Wolfbriar, Naturalize, and Brittle Effigy against them, but it can still be tough. Basically, it comes down to resolving and keeping a Monument imo. That's one reaqson why I move the third Monument to the main. I even considered adding a 4th Monument to the side, but that seemed a little like overkill.

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