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Out of curiousity, what makes Hell's Thunder better than Ball Lightning?

Dec 7, 2009 -- 6:28PM, Glux wrote:

// Lands

    4 [M10] Terramorphic Expanse

    1 [ZEN] Plains (1)

    7 [ZEN] Mountain (1)

    4 [ZEN] Scalding Tarn

    4 [ALA] Naya Panorama

    4 [ZEN] Arid Mesa

// Creatures

    4 [ALA] Hell's Thunder

    4 [CFX] Hellspark Elemental

    4 [ZEN] Plated Geopede

    4 [ZEN] Goblin Guide

// Spells

    3 [ALA] Ajani Vengeant

    3 [CFX] Path to Exile

    2 [M10] Earthquake

    4 [ZEN] Burst Lightning

    4 [ZEN] Zektar Shrine Expedition

    4 [M10] Lightning Bolt

// Sideboard

SB: 1 [ZEN] Plains (1)

SB: 1 [ALA] Ajani Vengeant

SB: 1 [CFX] Path to Exile

SB: 2 [M10] Earthquake

SB: 2 [M10] Celestial Purge

SB: 4 [M10] Baneslayer Angel

SB: 4 [ZEN] Goblin Ruinblaster

I actually love mana barbs in the board, I'd suggest trying it.

Dec 7, 2009 -- 10:40PM, TheBanshee wrote:

Dec 7, 2009 -- 7:03PM, Glux wrote:

Dec 7, 2009 -- 6:31PM, TheBanshee wrote:

Out of curiousity, what makes Hell's Thunder better than Ball Lightning?

flying, manacost, unearth.

is flying better than more power+trample? Is this because of the fequent first strikers?

mana cost? In mono-red? Perhaps in Barely Boros, Hell's Thunder is better in this respect...

How often do you find yourself unearthing?

Flying > Trample

4 > 1 (bolt, FSers, burst, etc)

With 24 land I unearth all the time. 

Please don't consider me a heretic, but I consistantly go x-1 with this build in my area. I go for more of a landfall-esque synergy, and main deck Manabarbs. Why you ask? this deck is always dealing more damage then it's paying in mana, and that's almost never the case with the opponents. And you pocket the manabarbs until you get them to 7 or less, which is fairly easy by turn 4 or 5. Just check it out and give me some initial thoughts/feedback:

[Main Deck]
4 Plated Geopede
4 Hellspark Elemental
4 Zektar Shrine Expedition
4 Ball Lightning
4 Burst Lightning
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Manabarbs
4 Firewild Borderpost
3 Pyroclasm
4 Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle
3 Arid Mesa
3 Scalding Tarn
15 Mountain

[Sideboard]
4 Pithing Needle
4 Act of Treason
3 Unstable Footing
3 Chandra Nalaar
1 Pyroclasm

Ive thought about a list like that Banshee and I came to the realization that adding black really slows the deck down while adding not as many threats/responses that I'd like. We really have to keep up a fast pace with jund being the dominate deck type out there, and unless you add duress instead of the soul stairs, to keep tempo with them would be very hard. I'll probably reconsider when we find out what new dual land/creature comes out in worldwake, since the loss of tempo could be justified by the size of the body the land may give us, and would also make grim discovery even more worth it.