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4 years ago ::
Nov 01, 2009 - 11:19PM
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Feast is situational and bad. Anyway...A big debate with this deck is the decision to run EITHER lacerator or hexmage. Some use both but that means sacrificing a set of useful removal or utility spells like sign in blood or duress/disfigure etc. I opted to cut lacerator for hexmage in order to give me resiliency at the cost of sometimes starting slower. The FS, PW kill, asc/quest setback is too usefull to not take advantage of and I also want 3 sets of non creature spells.
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4 years ago ::
Nov 02, 2009 - 6:22AM
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In response to some of the cards mentioned. Guul-Draz Vampire is not good. If you play a few games with it you will realize how much it isn't necessary in the deck. Feast in blood is far too situational. Disfigure kills 90% of the things you want to kill anyway. If disfigure can't surely deathmark, gatekeeper, nighthawk, or doom blade can. The Consume Spirit/Crypt of Agdeem Combo is good, but it would just clutter up the deck. Don't get me wrong the combo is good, but I think that it deserves its own deck and should not be part of vampires. The lacerator, hexmage debate is hard. I actually run 3 of each and no sign in bloods in my deck and it works out fine.
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4 years ago ::
Nov 02, 2009 - 7:03AM
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Not really contributing to the topic (although Vampires is really good and I'm not going to deny that, having lost to it at the recent Standard casual tournament a nearby shop held) - but I'm going to make a comment on the use of "all intensive purposes" in the OP. >=(
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4 years ago ::
Nov 02, 2009 - 9:48AM
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I'm using Ted's list minus Monument, and it's been fantastic for me.
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4 years ago ::
Nov 02, 2009 - 10:11AM
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Date Joined:
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I'm using Ted's list minus Monument, and it's been fantastic for me.
His list looks to be the best. I'm really not sure why he played a single eldrazi monument. That still baffles me a little. The best tech right now is main decking 2x Mind Sludge. It's so silly vs. all the decks in the metagame right now. I haven't seen too many decks that by turn 5 or 6 don't have 3-5 cards in their hand.
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4 years ago ::
Nov 02, 2009 - 10:15AM
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Date Joined:
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I'm using Ted's list minus Monument, and it's been fantastic for me.
His list looks to be the best. I'm really not sure why he played a single eldrazi monument. That still baffles me a little. The best tech right now is main decking 2x Mind Sludge. It's so silly vs. all the decks in the metagame right now. I haven't seen too many decks that by turn 5 or 6 don't have 3-5 cards in their hand.
I cur the Monument for 3rd Sludge. 8}
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4 years ago ::
Nov 02, 2009 - 10:43AM
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Date Joined:
Apr 25, 2008
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Eldrazzi Monument is an Overrun effect. Drop it and win, similar to how Nocturnus is played. That said, its probably not a requirement for a good vamp aggro deck.
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4 years ago ::
Nov 02, 2009 - 11:16AM
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I'm gonna make a defense for the use of Feast of Blood that I haven't yet heard put out there. A lot of people like to point out that it has a condition. But unlike Doom Blade or Deathmark, it is a condition that you always have a chance to meet. If your opponents creatures aren't the right color, Doom Blade and Deathmark are going to be a complete dead draw, and nothing you do will change that. But, with Feast, you have the chance to make sure the condition is met. And lets be honest, if you can't get two vampires on the board, you're pretty much done anyway.
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4 years ago ::
Nov 02, 2009 - 12:31PM
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Date Joined:
Jul 16, 2003
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kedi plays Mind Sludge from Hand
Ok?
Wuffles_II puts Time Warp to Graveyard from Hand
kedi stops looking its Library...
Wuffles_II puts Grixis Charm to Graveyard from Hand
Wuffles_II puts Pyroclasm to Graveyard from Hand
Wuffles_II puts Grixis Charm to Graveyard from Hand
Wuffles_II puts Swamp to Graveyard from Hand
kedi puts Mind Sludge to Graveyard from Play
It is now the End Phase, End Of Turn Step
End my turn
It is now turn 11 (Wuffles_II)
It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
Wuffles_II untaps his/her permanents
It is now the Beginning Phase, Upkeep Step
It is now the Beginning Phase, Draw Step
Wuffles_II draws a card
It is now the Precombat Main Phase
It is now the End Phase, End Of Turn Step
I'm done.
It is now turn 12 (kedi)
It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
kedi untaps his/her permanents
It is now the Beginning Phase, Upkeep Step
It is now the Beginning Phase, Draw Step
kedi draws a card
It is now the Precombat Main Phase
It is now the Combat Phase, Declare Attackers Step
kedi taps Bloodghast
kedi taps Bloodghast
Wuffles_II's life total is now 14 (-2)
It is now the Postcombat Main Phase
kedi plays Mind Sludge from Hand
kedi taps Swamp
kedi taps Swamp
kedi taps Swamp
kedi taps Swamp
kedi taps Swamp
Wuffles_II plays Lightning Bolt from Hand
Wuffles_II taps Crumbling Necropolis
kedi sacrifices Bloodghast
Wuffles_II puts Lightning Bolt to Graveyard from Play
Wuffles_II puts Time Warp to Graveyard from Hand
kedi puts Mind Sludge to Graveyard from Play
kedi plays Verdant Catacombs from Hand
kedi puts Bloodghast to Hand from Graveyard
kedi plays Bloodghast from Hand
It is now the End Phase, Cleanup Step
End my turn
Player Lost
Session Lost
Disconnected
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4 years ago ::
Nov 02, 2009 - 2:10PM
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I'm gonna make a defense for the use of Feast of Blood that I haven't yet heard put out there. A lot of people like to point out that it has a condition. But unlike Doom Blade or Deathmark, it is a condition that you always have a chance to meet. If your opponents creatures aren't the right color, Doom Blade and Deathmark are going to be a complete dead draw, and nothing you do will change that. But, with Feast, you have the chance to make sure the condition is met. And lets be honest, if you can't get two vampires on the board, you're pretty much done anyway.
Easy to meet the condition is still bad. Heres the situation I want my removal spell to bail me out of and its not the most uncommon scenario...Player 1 casts baneslayer angel after wiping my board somehow. (clasm,doj, emergency block, bad draw, whatev) I draw a land, maybe recur a ghast to play if im lucky. I have only a removal spell in hand. If i have deathmark or tendrils, Im golden and can topdeck myself back into the game...If I have feast? Im cursing my throat out and throwing my cards across the room in anger while my removal sits dead in my hand and baneslayer violates me and only a gatekeeper topdeck bails me out. See the problem? I think anyone who plays can say that im not describing a corner case or 1 game out of 100 scenario.
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