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4 years ago ::
Oct 28, 2009 - 1:23PM
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This thread is for discussion of this week's Top Decks, which goes live Thursday morning on magicthegathering.com.
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4 years ago ::
Oct 28, 2009 - 9:19PM
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Date Joined:
May 18, 2002
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What the hell? An article mentioning land destruction without apologizing?
...and this same article extolls the virtues of Moat without calling it "overpowered" and presenting the latest castrated variant?
...and this same article openly says "yeah, play those Wraths right alongside DoJ"?
...and this same article posts up two brutal control decks without condemning the strategy as "unfun" and comparing it to Hitler?
...and this same article encourages decks that are "hard to play"? Who are you, and what have you done with MTG.com? - and by that I mean "Bravo! Encore! Encore!"
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4 years ago ::
Oct 28, 2009 - 9:51PM
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actually, he seems to be suggesting that land destruction isn't that great, or is at least somewhat primitive compared to a control deck. what i took away was that prior to his exposure to "the deck" he thought ld was the bee's knees, but afterward it wasn't as impressive as it used to be. he's not exactly shouting its greatness from the rooftops. enjoyed the article. extended is a very different place than standard. there's a lot going on to make johnny happy. 
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4 years ago ::
Oct 28, 2009 - 10:44PM
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Date Joined:
Oct 15, 2007
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WITNESS! One of the few cards that looks good AND is powerful. I'm happy to see her again. Though she isn't going ANYWHERE for a LONG, LONG time. (I'd love to see a pro's and con's from Mike about Crystal Witness. Still viable?)
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4 years ago ::
Oct 29, 2009 - 6:47AM
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Date Joined:
Jan 10, 2006
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I love reading decklists for "Gifts Control" variants. They amaze me at their complexity and yet simplicity at the same time. I don't think on that level, so I could never effectively put together such an impressive 60-count. But at the same time, it makes perfect sense. Why not have two different, yet mostly equal, board sweepers? Why not go after the plains and Life from the Loam. Either they give you want you want, or you spend a turn getting it. But, to put Witness and Mannequin in the same deck? Genius, yet at the same time, obvious. Of course Yosei works even better with a mannequin counter. Duh, and yet, how did we not see it before? You put all those pieces together and it becomes a deadly combination of "of course!".
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4 years ago ::
Oct 29, 2009 - 7:07AM
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Date Joined:
May 12, 2009
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Well, good article and all, but reading it sure doesn't explain it's name.
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4 years ago ::
Oct 29, 2009 - 7:25AM
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Date Joined:
Oct 29, 2009
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It is entirely unclear to me: 1) Why Flores has this position 2) If his editor plays MTG 3) Why he constantly and consistently writes about irrelevant topics As to #1 - as far as I know the guy has not played in a Pro Tour this season, and maybe played in one last season. This is a tournament magic article written by a guy who is not capable enough of qualifying for magic tournaments. As to #2 and #3 - I'm not sure why an editor would allow 75% of what Flores says to be published. It is nonsensical dribble with a bunch of fancy words (ostensibly, anyone?) thrown in. To spend 80% of an article writing about a deck that is 15 years old and which Flores has written on a dozen other occasions is just beyond me. Pro Tour Austin was less than two weeks ago and we get an extended diatribe on "Moat." At least Steve Sadin is competent.
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4 years ago ::
Oct 29, 2009 - 8:08AM
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Date Joined:
May 27, 2006
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It is entirely unclear to me:
1) Why Flores has this position
2) If his editor plays MTG
3) Why he constantly and consistently writes about irrelevant topics
As to #1 - as far as I know the guy has not played in a Pro Tour this season, and maybe played in one last season. This is a tournament magic article written by a guy who is not capable enough of qualifying for magic tournaments.
As to #2 and #3 - I'm not sure why an editor would allow 75% of what Flores says to be published. It is nonsensical dribble with a bunch of fancy words (ostensibly, anyone?) thrown in. To spend 80% of an article writing about a deck that is 15 years old and which Flores has written on a dozen other occasions is just beyond me. Pro Tour Austin was less than two weeks ago and we get an extended diatribe on "Moat."
At least Steve Sadin is competent.
Hi troll. While Flores' PT success is what it is, his articles and decks are still highly valued by many pros. Saying he isn't qualified to write about magic, is like saying only the top sports athletes are qualified to write about their sport.
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4 years ago ::
Oct 29, 2009 - 9:40AM
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Date Joined:
Jan 14, 2005
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For the basic forest, sbing one isn't too hard...
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4 years ago ::
Oct 29, 2009 - 7:31PM
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Great article. Sadly, only a few of us know what the dark ages of magic actually felt like. These kids don't know about local magic theory before the internet changed everything. I hope to see the Sligh version of this article very soon. To me, the "discovery" of Sligh was far more crucial, as the pieces of control slowly trickled into our consciousness as we continued to play them, but Sligh was something the could not be continuously transformed to... you had to have the strategy in your head before you even picked the first card for the deck.
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