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4 years ago ::
Oct 21, 2009 - 12:08PM
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Loved the deck. It feels like I am just repeating myself, but in a cold world, praise is seldom to abundant. I cherish this column because it encompasses most of my wants in 60-cards gaming. Competitive, comtemporary and consumerfriendly decks with cards that are fun, powerful and no-frills. And they coincide freakishly often exactly with the ones I myself had a yearn to play and of recent acquisition. (All my cards are acquired from and most of my playing is done, in the 40 deck format. And those games dont quensh your needs to cast warmonk, nighthawk, bituminous blast and the other grenades (cf. bombs) of current format) By now you have not only cemented your prominence, but continuing in this vein will create a reign. P.S Can you clarify "He attacks with Bloodghast and I double-block it" - with what / why? [EDIT] I had a snack inbetween starting my reply and finishing it so I missed the "first" post and jacobs answer to it, so ignore the exact same question [EDIT]
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4 years ago ::
Oct 21, 2009 - 12:38PM
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"Bloodghast and I double-block it."
Why?There's no point in double-blocking a 2/1 in a mono-black deck when you're already ahead. You might be playing around spot removal but why would he use it on a 1/1 saproling instead of your 2/2 flying Hypnotic Specter?
You sir are either trolling or a derelict, spiritual speaking. More inexplicable play decisions tainting an otherwise good-looking budget deck. At least he didn't try Cryptic Commanding something this time.. Ok, trolling.
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4 years ago ::
Oct 21, 2009 - 1:41PM
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Loved the deck.
It feels like I am just repeating myself, but in a cold world, praise is seldom to abundant.
I cherish this column because it encompasses most of my wants in 60-cards gaming. Competitive, comtemporary and consumerfriendly decks with cards that are fun, powerful and no-frills.
And they coincide freakishly often exactly with the ones I myself had a yearn to play and of recent acquisition. (All my cards are acquired from and most of my playing is done, in the 40 deck format. And those games dont quensh your needs to cast warmonk, nighthawk, bituminous blast and the other grenades (cf. bombs) of current format)
By now you have not only cemented your prominence, but continuing in this vein will create a reign.
P.S
Can you clarify "He attacks with Bloodghast and I double-block it" - with what / why?
[EDIT] I had a snack inbetween starting my reply and finishing it so I missed the "first" post and jacobs answer to it, so ignore the exact same question [EDIT]
Quite true. I was actually building a modified Jund disruption deck that functioned eerily similarly to this one. I ran a bit more removal and curved out the deck nicer for a few cascade shenanigans, of course, but the strategy was the same. As everyone else has already said, loved the article and the deck. Strong but still budget, with clear ways to improve it if you wanted to put more money into it. Fantastic job.
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4 years ago ::
Oct 21, 2009 - 1:44PM
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I quite liked it. It seems like a budget deck that can actually compete, and has some solid upgrade paths with money. Cards like Maelstrom Pulse, Fetchlands (though I'm not sure on the mix), and swapping out Akoum Refuge for Dragonskull Summit looks like a good move because the 1 point of life shouldn't matter and it can be an increase in tempo compared to the Refuge.
It also scratches an itch I've had for playing a disruptive deck.
Agreed! I've wanted to play an annoyin-- er, "disruptive" deck for a while too. 
I picked up the specters (both kinds) on MTGO to give this list a spin this week. Thankfully I opened 2 Pulses doing ARB drafts, so I will try those in place of the 2 Burst Lightning I'm currently missing (though will likely open my ZEN release events). I was thinking the same in terms of swapping the RB life-gainer for the M10 one, but the ZEN uncommon land makes sense given that this is budget friendly. I also wonder how Guul Draz Specter would behave in this deck. It costs one more mana, so can't Bloodbraid into it (plus the discard isn't random). But the opp's hand should be empty at some point, and as a bonus you get a black dragon on your side (until the opp's draw step, but then the choice is "play or hold" on that card). Is the cost/reward worth it? Not sure, but it at least seems worth experimenting with to see if it can be mixed into the list effectively.
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4 years ago ::
Oct 21, 2009 - 1:49PM
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I quite liked it. It seems like a budget deck that can actually compete, and has some solid upgrade paths with money. Cards like Maelstrom Pulse, Fetchlands (though I'm not sure on the mix), and swapping out Akoum Refuge for Dragonskull Summit looks like a good move because the 1 point of life shouldn't matter and it can be an increase in tempo compared to the Refuge.
It also scratches an itch I've had for playing a disruptive deck.
Agreed! I've wanted to play an annoyin-- er, "disruptive" deck for a while too. 
I picked up the specters (both kinds) on MTGO to give this list a spin this week. Thankfully I opened 2 Pulses doing ARB drafts, so I will try those in place of the 2 Burst Lightning I'm currently missing (though will likely open my ZEN release events). I was thinking the same in terms of swapping the RB life-gainer for the M10 one, but the ZEN uncommon land makes sense given that this is budget friendly.
I also wonder how Guul Draz Specter would behave in this deck. It costs one more mana, so can't Bloodbraid into it (plus the discard isn't random). But the opp's hand should be empty at some point, and as a bonus you get a black dragon on your side (until the opp's draw step, but then the choice is "play or hold" on that card). Is the cost/reward worth it? Not sure, but it at least seems worth experimenting with to see if it can be mixed into the list effectively.
Not really sold on guul draz specter; it only costs one more but as you said, that means you can't cascade into it, which makes all the difference. It's slower and very importantly the discard isn't random. And for late-game threats you already have the madrush cyclops. For discard, blightning and the two spectres are prolly good enough. Imho the power boost isn't all that great since if you've demolished their hand with persistent discards, ending the game one or two turns earlier doesn't really matter. In the meantime, he's a dead card and/or a much more fat and useless specter.
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4 years ago ::
Oct 21, 2009 - 5:23PM
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Oct 21, 2009
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Great deck and nice article. I have a question though: Would Megrim be a viable card to play in this deck?
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4 years ago ::
Oct 21, 2009 - 6:14PM
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That's an extremely good deck indeed; I almost feel ashamed I didn't see the power of Specters in that flying-free Standard myself. It seems only the mana base needs perfecting. Like others suggested, I'd definitely try Terramorphic Expanse in there, budget or not. I can't help but feel that's it's being grossly underplayed at the moment; a four-color deck that can afford to play that many CIPT lands is exactly the kind of build which I think should have it. I didn't get to test to prove my point so I could be wrong, but even for three-color decks, I feel the Expanse may be better than a Zendikar fetchland as long as it doesn't mean you're playing over 8 CIPT lands. I can see why one would like the Alara trilands better, though, and it may be hard to find room for the Expanse for that reason if you're playing 4 color and already want a playset of each fitting triland. I know the reason people don't play the Expanse is that it combines the CIPT weakness with the weakness of fetchlands (once you've chosen the color it's gonna produce, it's only gonna produce that one), but I'm sure there's a place for it, either in complement to trilands and/or in complement to Zendikar fetchlands, which together help a landfall theme and help the M10 duals work too by finding basics.
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4 years ago ::
Oct 21, 2009 - 7:41PM
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I also wonder how Guul Draz Specter would behave in this deck.
Don't undervalue the Unearth value of the Sedraxis specter. An unearthed specter means 3 damage plus a discard. Thats pretty good for only 2 mana.
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4 years ago ::
Oct 22, 2009 - 12:55AM
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@Jacob. Second advent. I'm truly discouraged.  Each week i met new people in your article discussion which are interested in adding megrim to discard deck. To deal an opponent much more pain than just 3 points from Sedraxis e.g. The answer is here: read last 5-6 article's discussion of building an a budget and you 100% find an answer + few decklists of what could be made. Megrim deck is already an old idea which isn't popular for the moment because no one posted it in the main DailyMTG screen or win some pro-tour with it.  Combine and build/
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4 years ago ::
Oct 22, 2009 - 1:05AM
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Oct 10, 2009
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Great article Jacob! Another bad play was your opponent playing Ob nix on 5th turn. But you probably forced him into it with the discard. Another is by your opponent in the control match up, he paths your leech on second turn which benefits you. He should of saved it for one of your recurring creatures like the specter or the lizard that a wrath cant handle effectively. I personaly think that the vampires match up is tough, your opponent can prolong the game with a tendrils then grind it out with recurring Bloodghasts.
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