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4 years ago ::
Oct 20, 2009 - 2:14PM
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Date Joined:
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This thread is for discussion of this week's Building on a Budget Article, which goes live Wednesday morning on magicthegathering.com.
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4 years ago ::
Oct 20, 2009 - 9:18PM
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Jan 28, 2002
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This is very similar to Brad Nelson's "Angry Face" block deck at PT Honolulu.
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4 years ago ::
Oct 20, 2009 - 9:36PM
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Aug 30, 2008
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I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed a new opportunity for the Sedraxis Specter to take to the skies. However, I hadn't considered pairing it with a Jund-ish build because of the mana requirements. I guess there's more than enough fixing to make it possible, especially if you remove budget restraints and give yourself access to the M10 duals and the fetchlands (the Red/Blue fetchland would probably be the best option for this deck, I'm guessing.) I took a similar, but worse, build like this, and even it is tearing up the casual room on MtGO just fine. Glad to see it make an appearance.
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4 years ago ::
Oct 20, 2009 - 10:03PM
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Oct 15, 2007
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You got that manabase to work? AWESOME.
I had fears of the CIP tapped lands. Guess those were unfounded.
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4 years ago ::
Oct 20, 2009 - 10:16PM
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Jacob has become one of my favorite deck builders. I really appreciate his explanations on card choices. Thanks Jacob.
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4 years ago ::
Oct 20, 2009 - 10:42PM
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You got that manabase to work? AWESOME. I had fears of the CIP tapped lands. Guess those were unfounded.
Actually, I went ahead and built the deck because it looked powerful and fun. And your fears about the manabase are totally justified. I have played a grand total of, uh... 2 games out of about 12 where the mana actually worked for me. Believe me, when it works, it can be obnoxiously powerful. But most of the time, I'm sitting on my butt, stuck with either the wrong CITP lands or a whole fistful of them so that I can't cast my three drops until turn 4.The curve is also a little odd... I guess the CIPT lands can count as one/two drops, but really, I almost feel like Birds of Paradise (which are rather cheap right now, I hear) would be a better choice. It is entirely likely this deck simply can't work unless you use the new fetch lands, which unfortunately isn't very budget friendly. I'm not sure which would work best, but I can say right now that either he's the most awesome player ever (although he's certainly a better player than me), or just had the most incredible luck for those three rounds than anybody deserves to get with a manabase like that. Perhaps I mulligan incorrectly?
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4 years ago ::
Oct 20, 2009 - 10:57PM
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what builds did that deck test against? I'm pretty surprised that that deck can win against jund and vampires, but maybe it works because it's so similar to Jund?
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4 years ago ::
Oct 20, 2009 - 11:34PM
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Jul 16, 2007
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The mana in this deck looks fine. If you got color screwed often, I think you were just unlucky. I would probably run some Terramorphic Expanse in here though, make it easier to get the "outside colors" blue and green. Maybe -1 mountain, -1 forest, -2 refuge, +4 Terramorphic. It will make things a little slower though.
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4 years ago ::
Oct 21, 2009 - 2:29AM
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Jun 30, 2008
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For the mana base you should look into Lotus Cobra. Not very budget but that guy is just so broken, it can pump out Baneslayer turn three. Also I disagree with the statement in the article that Bloodbraid is the best card in standard. I think both cards I mentioned above are better. Bloodbraid is the best budget card in standard though, no contest.
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4 years ago ::
Oct 21, 2009 - 2:43AM
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Date Joined:
Jun 15, 2007
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A great article. I really like this deck which is fairly similar to the deck the FFreak took to the PT for the ALA block constructed. It seems that there are not too may Zen cards making into standard decks right now. For the mana base (assuming no budget) I think I would probably favour 2 BG Fetches and 2 RU Fetches in order to smooth things out. Obviously terramorphic expanse is signifcantly more budget but does slow the deck down a bit. There have been numerous arguments as to whether Lotus Cobra or Putrid Leech are better in decks like this and the more I read the more I feel that Lotus Cobra is not as good as the Leech in this sort of aggro deck. Yes, as mentioned, they may be able to power out a turn 3 Angel but this is only in the 'best-case' scenario. I think Leech is a much better card for this sort of deck.
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