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4 years ago  ::  Oct 08, 2009 - 10:25PM #21
magac
Date Joined: Jun 14, 2006
Posts: 4,177

I never noticed until today that Iona is a LOT bigger than our average angels. Not only I didn't take note of the shape of the floating ruins (because they aren't just debris, they're broken arcs and pillars), I didn't see an explorer hanging on the slab of rock there being dwarfed in size by the angry angel....

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4 years ago  ::  Oct 08, 2009 - 10:33PM #22
Amarsir
Date Joined: Oct 28, 2006
Posts: 2,717

Oct 8, 2009 -- 9:41PM, J3ff wrote:


So Aaron Forsythe's deck seems to be just another example of "Strategy + Lotus Cobra = Better Strategy."




Yeah if you thought yesterday's deck was a slap in the face...


The Director of Magic, the guy who has total control over rarities, plays a deck with 4 Lotus Cobra when gunslinging.  That alone I could overlook, but then in his own words:


This deck left players with two impressions: one, Lotus Cobra was as sick as they imagined; and two, Allies were way sicker than they imagined.



So the point was to take the most-hyped card of the set and demonstrate how powerful a utility it really is.  And that's no accident.  At this point he already knew how many objections the card would have.  This is just insulting.


I just decided that I won't be opening any packs of Zendikar (no draft/sealed), nor will I encourage them to be opened (by purchasing rares/mythics for constructed.)  I'll buy some commons and maybe uncommons, and that's it.  It actually isn't that bad of a loss since I've already decided the linear-but-explosive sorcery-speed effects aren't that interesting anyway.  But I was going to give things a shot, as I do enjoy drafting.


I'm just one person who will go unnoticed, and I expect that.  But I can't very well complain about their practices and then buy 3 boxes.


On a positive note, I did think that showing Gunslinging decks this week was a nice idea.  I enjoy seeing which aspects the various developers want to show off.

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4 years ago  ::  Oct 09, 2009 - 11:20AM #23
zubr
Date Joined: Apr 9, 2009
Posts: 53

I do like looking at the gunslinger decks.  It's going to be interesting to see what pops up in standard that the developers didn't anticipate.


I play only limited so I'm actually happy that there are a few high value rares in the format.  I sort of think of Lotus Cobra as a grizzly bear that can be traded for a free draft.  Remember when sometimes you would open your Coke and under the cap it would say "have a free Coke"?  That was exciting!


I also want to point out that the deck with Baneslayer Angel, Lotus Cobra, a million fetch lands, and a few Doom Blades is a rock deck in the truest sense of the word.  And rock decks are characterized by having an OK matchup against everything.  The way to win tournaments is not to play rock (usually) but rather it's to be clever and make good metagame choices which in all likelihood will mean playing something that does not require 8 mythic rares.

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4 years ago  ::  Oct 11, 2009 - 9:30PM #24
quitequieter
Date Joined: Oct 6, 2008
Posts: 1,835

it seems silly to be running so many off color fetchlands just for the singleton linx. is it really worth it? i guess the life loss doesn't matter enough to make them worse than mountains in this deck.

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4 years ago  ::  Oct 11, 2009 - 9:39PM #25
puppet1991
Date Joined: Jul 31, 2008
Posts: 39

cerdon's no longer there. Gheck out updated version at Quietspeculation.com

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4 years ago  ::  Oct 11, 2009 - 11:50PM #26
ong312
Date Joined: Aug 28, 2009
Posts: 5,808
my thoughts on Bushwacker Aggro

That deck reminds me a lot of the deck I designed and am currently running... but mine is mono-red.


IPR (Idiot-Proof Red)

LANDS 21
4 Arid Mesa
9 Mountain
4 Scalding Tarn
4 Teetering Peaks

SPELLS 20
4 Burst Lightning    R or 4R
4 Dragon Fodder    1R
2 Fireball    XR
4 Lighting Bolt    R
4 Trumpet Blast    2R    (the low-calorie Overrun)
2 Zektar Shrine Expedition    1R

CREATURES 19
3 Ball Lightning    RRR
4 Goblin Chieftain    1RR
4 Goblin Guide    R
4 Hellspark Elemental    1R
4 Jackal Familiar    R

A friend of mine said my deck looked "lose" and needed to be tuned.
Hhowever in my experience, it's ability to win in as little as 4 turns makes it a force.
I am still tinkering with the sideboard, since the format is still in it's infancy however.
This is where it is, so far:

3 Dragon's Claw    2    (sideboard option for the mirror match)
2 Earthquake    XR    (sideboard versus soldiers... it's that hard of a match-up)
3 Goblin Assault    2R    (sideboard option versus control)
3 Ignite Disorder    1R    (sideboard option versus soldiers... the hardest match-up)
4 Magma Spray    R    (sideboard versus vampires to take out Bloodghast PERMANENTLY)


I am normally lurking around this Magic: the Gathering Facebook group, or you can message me here for sure:
www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=618983890...

Don't be surprised if you start seeing this at tournaments....
old quotes from the Worldwake talk:
Mike Turian: While Mark Rosewater made Tarmogoyf, I made Tarmogoyf what he is today
Mark Rosewater: Would we ever reprint Tarmogoyf? Maybe.

I am Blue/Green


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4 years ago  ::  Oct 12, 2009 - 10:45AM #27
orcishartillery
Date Joined: Jun 24, 2003
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Oct 11, 2009 -- 9:30PM, quitequieter wrote:


it seems silly to be running so many off color fetchlands just for the singleton linx. is it really worth it? i guess the life loss doesn't matter enough to make them worse than mountains in this deck.




Pulling lands out of your deck also increases the probability that you'll draw spells, which is important in an aggro deck that wants to end the game quickly.


 

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4 years ago  ::  Oct 12, 2009 - 1:30PM #28
Alexfrog
Date Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 9

The posted list is an older and (much) worse version of this list, which was 2nd at the Star City 5k this weekend:


sales.starcitygames.com//deckdatabase/di...


All the fetchlands make sense when youre playing 4 Steppe Lynx (the best 1 drop in this list), and 4 Geopede (the best 2 drop in this list).    Cerodon Yearling is pretty bad in comparison.


The deck is a very fast and resilient aggro deck, and uses Ranger of Eos to grab Bushwhacker, to create a ton of haste damage to recover from a board sweeper effect.  


This version of the deck is very strong. 

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4 years ago  ::  Oct 12, 2009 - 9:17PM #29
Raedien
Date Joined: Apr 16, 2007
Posts: 5,521

Been running a budget version of my own design for quite some time.

And no one bloody noticed, as usual.

"Silly Raedien, you can't win with such a low curve, Zendikar is a slooow set," they said.

Fie, fie on you all!

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4 years ago  ::  Oct 12, 2009 - 9:50PM #30
ong312
Date Joined: Aug 28, 2009
Posts: 5,808

Oct 12, 2009 -- 9:17PM, Raedien wrote:

Been running a budget version of my own design for quite some time.

And no one bloody noticed, as usual.

"Silly Raedien, you can't win with such a low curve, Zendikar is a slooow set," they said.

Fie, fie on you all!




LOL, a slow set doesn't make a slow environment and people need to remember that.... Magic 2010 is supposedly slow in draft, and some have said the same about Zendikar... and Shards block for that matter! However, I have learned that if you look at blocks to figure out standard... you are an idiot. You look at the big picture... are there enough bits and pieces floating around to make whatever kind of deck you want work? Kudos to you for knowing that.

Example... a death-touch deck a few months ago would have been far too slow... now... Deadly Recluse, Vampire Nighthawk, Pestilence Kathari (which occasionally can kill a Baneslayer), Giant Scorpion, and Quest For the Gravelord are all legal... when you play with deathtouch, and low mana curves... 5/5s run like water! In any of those limited formats where those cards are from, Deathtouch wouldn't have been a full deck option... however, a little from column a, a little from column b.... and voila! You have a decent curve (with appropriate and effective creature kill) you have a dangerous deck.

DEAD LIKE ME: LIFE AFTER DECK (budget version)

LANDS 22
4 Savage Lands (budget enemy color tap land, bonus of making Pestilence Kathari a first strike creature)
2 Terramorphic Expanse (budget fetch)
12 Swamp
4 Forest

CREATURES 20
4 Vampire Nighthawk    1BB
4 Giant Scorpion    2B
4 Pestilence Kathari    2B
4 Deadly Recluse    1G
2 Grazing Gladehart    2G
2 Acidic Slime    3GG

SPELLS 20
4 Quest For the Gravelord    B
4 Sign In Blood    BB
4 Disfigure    B
2 Soul Stair Expedition    B
2 Hideous End    1BB
2 Rampant Growth    1G
2 Naturalize    1G

Obviously this is a deck that greatly benefits from non-budget cards like Maelstrom Pulse, Verdant Catacombs, and Lotus Cobra. It can also strengthen the mana base into something more "Jund" by adding playsets of Rootbound Crag and Dragonskull Sumitt to strengthen red as a maindeck or sideboard choice (how awesome is it to play Violent Ultimatum main deck?) HOWEVER it is playable in budget zero-rare count form... which is awesome!
old quotes from the Worldwake talk:
Mike Turian: While Mark Rosewater made Tarmogoyf, I made Tarmogoyf what he is today
Mark Rosewater: Would we ever reprint Tarmogoyf? Maybe.

I am Blue/Green


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