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4 years ago ::
Aug 01, 2009 - 11:29AM
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You'd only need one instance of the +2 ability to kill all your opponents, at least assuming they were all within your range of influence (and if not, you'd need to wait until the next turn to affect them at all).
Jeff Heikkinen
DCI Rules Advisor since Dec 25, 2011
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4 years ago ::
Aug 01, 2009 - 11:32AM
#42
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You'd only need one instance of the +2 ability to kill all your opponents, at least assuming they were all within your range of influence (and if not, you'd need to wait until the next turn to affect them at all).
Wouldn't your RoI suddenly include another player as soon as the one within your RoI dies and leaves the game?
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4 years ago ::
Aug 01, 2009 - 11:33AM
#43
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Wouldn't your RoI suddenly include another player as soon as the one within your RoI dies and leaves the game?
No.
[INDENT]801.2c The particular players within each player’s range of influence are determined as each turn begins.
[INDENT]Example: In a game with a range of influence of 1, Alex is seated to the left of Rob, and Carissa is seated to the right of Rob. Carissa is not in Alex’s range of influence. If Rob leaves the game, Carissa will enter Alex’s range of influence at the start of the next turn.[/INDENT]
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This also means you had better be careful not to deck yourself with the +2 ability if you've got opponents outside your RoI.
Jeff Heikkinen
DCI Rules Advisor since Dec 25, 2011
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4 years ago ::
Aug 01, 2009 - 11:35AM
#44
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No.
[INDENT]801.2c The particular players within each player’s range of influence are determined as each turn begins.
[INDENT]Example: In a game with a range of influence of 1, Alex is seated to the left of Rob, and Carissa is seated to the right of Rob. Carissa is not in Alex’s range of influence. If Rob leaves the game, Carissa will enter Alex’s range of influence at the start of the next turn.[/INDENT]
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Ah. Hmm, for some reason I thought RoI was one of those 'constantly checked' things. Thanks for pointing out that particular rule.
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4 years ago ::
Aug 02, 2009 - 9:20AM
#45
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A planeswalkers ability is specifically mentioned as an activated ability and the rules only limit players from playing the abilities of their planeswalkers once per turn at sorcery speed.
So if any other permenant gained the activated ability it would be able to use them at instant speed, because this is the default speed for activated abilities, because the permenant using them is not a planeswalker and so isn't bound by it's limitations.
Also as the cost does not preclude the repeated use of the ability using this combination is virtually an instant win with but a few cards to combat the trick.
It's perfectly legal, if somewhat complex.
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4 years ago ::
Aug 05, 2009 - 5:02AM
#46
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Let's settle this once and for all. http://www.wizards.com/Magic/magazine/A … eature/429 Week #998. If Mark Gottlieb says you can do it, it has to be true.
What's the difference between a duck?
One leg is both the same.
Is it farther to Chicago or by bus?
Depends on whether you walk or take your lunch.
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