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4 years ago ::
Jan 23, 2009 - 12:49AM
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ok... say i'm playing Rafiq of the Many  and i also have a Battlegrace Angel  in play as well. Now when i attack with any creature alone it's getting exalted +1/+1, double strike, and life link. can someone tell me what would happen here if i i attack with my rafiq? he would become a 4/4, double strike and have life link. as far as the double strike goes if a 4/5 would block it, my rafiq would deal strike of 4, would stilll have 1/1 left on the blocker and then my 2nd strike would deal the final blow to it but my rafiq would die as well bc the power of 4 on the blocker will go through because it servived the first strike... is that right? also in that case i would gain the full 8 life of my attack. now say my rafiq gets blocked by a 1/1, double strike doesn't kill it then attack the opponent because i don't have trample. but would the double strike kill it and deal the rest to it anyway and i gain the full 8or would i only gain 4 because the second strike doesn't have any affect? this one is a confusing one, and i love the combo with battlegrace angel bc it would be a 5/5 with doulbe strike and life link.... unless it's blocked they lose 10 and i gain 10 =] thanks!
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4 years ago ::
Jan 23, 2009 - 12:56AM
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can someone tell me what would happen here if i i attack with my rafiq?
he would become a 4/4, double strike and have life link.
Correction: a 5/5 double striking lifelinker. Each instance of Exalted is cumulative.
as far as the double strike goes if a 4/5 would block it, my rafiq would deal strike of 4, would stilll have 1/1 left on the blocker and then my 2nd strike would deal the final blow to it but my rafiq would die as well bc the power of 4 on the blocker will go through because it servived the first strike... is that right? also in that case i would gain the full 8 life of my attack.
If Rafiq was a 4/4, yes, that'd be correct. Since he's a 5/5 though, he kills the blocker on the first hit, and you only gain 5 life.
now say my rafiq gets blocked by a 1/1, double strike doesn't kill it then attack the opponent because i don't have trample.
Right.
...but would the double strike kill it and deal the rest to it anyway and i gain the full 8or would i only gain 4 because the second strike doesn't have any affect?
You would only gain life for the first strike, because once the creature dies there's nothing left for Rafiq to deal damage to, so he won't deal any.
And so people say to me, "How do I know if a word is real?" You know, anyone who's read a children's book knows that love makes things real. If you love a word, use it! That makes it real. Being in the dictionary is an artificial distinction; it doesn't make the word any more real than any other word. If you love a word, it becomes real.
--Erin McKean, Redefining the Dictionary
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4 years ago ::
Jan 23, 2009 - 12:58AM
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the big setup for me on this combo is actually, getting my Elspeth, Knight-Errant  , Battlegrace Angel , and Rafiq of the Many out. you turn Battlegrace Angel from a 4/4 exalted to 5/5 with life link, into a beastly, 8/8 flyer with double strike and life link lol... that is a game changer there... so far i have 2 rafiq, 2 battlegrace angel, and one Elspeth common lucky booster packs! lol
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4 years ago ::
Jan 23, 2009 - 1:12AM
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how is he a 5/5?
he is normaly 3/3
do i get the +1/+1 for each creature with exalted?
rafiq and battlegrace angel both have it... do i get +2/+2 bc they both have have exalted?
if so then say the senerio is he is 5/5 being blocked by a 5/6 does my rafiq die bc the first shot didn't kill the blocker and he doesn't have first strike.
SEPERATE ?
if a doulbe strike is used on a first strike creature say a 1/1 with first strike, and is blocked by a 2/2, the 2/2 dies and the 1/1 doulbe strike/first strike wins. if the 1/1 creature didn't have first strike he would die but still kill the blocker...
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4 years ago ::
Jan 23, 2009 - 3:07AM
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4 years ago ::
Jan 23, 2009 - 7:36AM
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i was saying what if i bring in a creature that is 2/2 with first strike, and then i have rafiq in play as well. will my 2/2 kill a 2/4 and not be destroyed? he will have doubled strike but will both of them hit before the damage of the 2/4 creature kills him.
normaly with double strike my 2/2 would kill the 2/4 and still die bc the first wave won't kill it. but since this is a first strike creature (meaning i when i block or attack my damage is delt first), and i attack 2 times my damage should be dealt 2 time hitting first 2 times and my 2/2 should live.
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4 years ago ::
Jan 23, 2009 - 7:44AM
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i was saying what if i bring in a creature that is 2/2 with first strike, and then i have rafiq in play as well. will my 2/2 kill a 2/4 and not be destroyed? he will have doubled strike but will both of them hit before the damage of the 2/4 creature kills him.
No. Having both first strike and double strike is no different than just having double strike to begin with.
And so people say to me, "How do I know if a word is real?" You know, anyone who's read a children's book knows that love makes things real. If you love a word, use it! That makes it real. Being in the dictionary is an artificial distinction; it doesn't make the word any more real than any other word. If you love a word, it becomes real.
--Erin McKean, Redefining the Dictionary
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4 years ago ::
Jan 23, 2009 - 8:37AM
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ok, this my understanding of this is as follows:
double strike deals damage 2 times if needed first and normal combat damage.
first strike deals the first strike damage only and not both first and normal damage
That correct
zammm your all over this forum man haha... you have been a lot of help
Thanks!
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4 years ago ::
Jan 23, 2009 - 9:29AM
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Combat damage with at least one first striking or double striking attacking or blocking creature as the Declare Blockers Step ends:
1) Attacking and blocking creatures with first or double strike assign combat damage, which then gets dealt. Players get priority both before and after the damage is dealt.
2) Attacking and blocking creatures that assigned no first strike damage (including creatures that have gained first strike for some reason, and creatures that had 0 power - or less - so didn't assign damage despite having first strike) and those with double strike assign combat damage, which then gets dealt. Again, players get priority before and after...
M:tG Rules Advisor
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4 years ago ::
Jan 23, 2009 - 10:52AM
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zammm your all over this forum man haha... you have been a lot of help
Thanks!
You're most welcome. 
And so people say to me, "How do I know if a word is real?" You know, anyone who's read a children's book knows that love makes things real. If you love a word, use it! That makes it real. Being in the dictionary is an artificial distinction; it doesn't make the word any more real than any other word. If you love a word, it becomes real.
--Erin McKean, Redefining the Dictionary
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