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11 months ago ::
May 25, 2009 - 8:24PM
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progenitus and pulmonic sliver both "trigger" because of a wrath of god effect. Can i "stack" them in the order that i choose so i can shuffle my library before stacking slivers on top of it?
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11 months ago ::
May 25, 2009 - 8:42PM
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Most posts get a quick answer, should i mail this one to wizard?
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11 months ago ::
May 25, 2009 - 8:43PM
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- Master of the Quiz (Win '09)
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11 months ago ::
May 25, 2009 - 8:48PM
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This means i have to send pulmonic last so the other slivers still have that ability?
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11 months ago ::
May 25, 2009 - 8:51PM
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This means i have to send pulmonic last so the other slivers still have that ability?
No. Once they trigger, it doesn't matter whether they retain the ability when it resolves. As long as it goes on the stack, its independent of its source.
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11 months ago ::
May 25, 2009 - 8:54PM
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That's the whole thing isn't it.
There's no "whenever" or "at" keyword which to my knowledge mark a triggered ability. Those are replacement effects.
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11 months ago ::
May 25, 2009 - 9:03PM
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No. Once they trigger, it doesn't matter whether they retain the ability when it resolves. As long as it goes on the stack, its independent of its source.
There's nothing triggering in this scenario.
All the Slivers leave play simultaneously, so at the time they leave play, they all have the Pulmonic Sliver -granted replacement. You can put any or all of them on top of your library, in any order you choose.
As for the first question you asked, the reason you didn't get a clear answer quickly is because you've managed to hit one of those dark corners of the rules where not everything is obvious. (I asked a similar question a while back, involving Gravebane Zombie and Darksteel Colossus . Unfortunately, I don't remember the answer given at that time.)
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11 months ago ::
May 25, 2009 - 9:04PM
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That's the whole thing isn't it.
There's no "whenever" or "at" keyword which to my knowledge mark a triggered ability. Those are replacement effects.
Wow, I'm an idiot.
This is what happens when you try to answer rules questions on 3 hours of sleep. Inori's answer is correct. All the slivers leave play simultaneously.
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11 months ago ::
May 25, 2009 - 9:15PM
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I sent the question to wizard. i'll try to update this when i get an answer. Sub this thread to know the answer.
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11 months ago ::
May 25, 2009 - 9:48PM
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I sent the question to wizard. i'll try to update this when i get an answer. Sub this thread to know the answer.
You have your answer. Two replacement effects--not triggered abilities--try to take place at once. You can order them as you choose, such as shuffling Progenitus into your library before putting all the Slivers, in the order you choose, atop your library.
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