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4 years ago ::
Feb 12, 2009 - 2:59PM
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Is there any reason they wouldn't be allowed in sleeves, other than "because we said so!" I'm just curious, because they wouldn't be distinguishable in legal sleeves. Because giving them a different back is a way to distinguish legal cards from non legal promo prints (such as world championship decks and Collector's Edition). Yes, world championship decks are gold bordered and collector's edition has square corners, but both can easely be camouflaged. This prevents people from coming with collector's edition cards and saying "look, the corners aren't square, this means it's legal!"
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4 years ago ::
Feb 12, 2009 - 3:33PM
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so what formats is my Ace of Spades legal in? I forget what the corners look like, but they do have the standard back. I used to have one of those decks. Wish I still did.
I'd have to say, there's no sanctioned tournament they would be legal in, not for any of the card back or card border reasons, but because they do not have a name which is from ANY set that would be legal in any sanctioned tournament.
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4 years ago ::
Apr 12, 2009 - 5:35AM
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The oversized promos are definitely not tournament-legal. And while Alpha cards are legal, if the card is legal in the format (i.e., an Alpha Giant Spider is even legal in Standard, by Rule 50) if your deck mixes Alpha and non-Alpha cards, sleeves are required. It's too bad about some of the new foils being so curved that they are not playable, but I presume WotC is moving rapidly to correct that.
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4 years ago ::
Apr 12, 2009 - 9:46AM
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The oversized promos are definitely not tournament-legal. And while Alpha cards are legal, if the card is legal in the format (i.e., an Alpha Giant Spider is even legal in Standard, by Rule 50) if your deck mixes Alpha and non-Alpha cards, sleeves are required.
It's too bad about some of the new foils being so curved that they are not playable, but I presume WotC is moving rapidly to correct that. Some reason you necro'd a 2-month-old thread?
Since it's back, though, I am curious...
If the deck consists entirely of legal sleeves (once you can't see through, so no possibility of marking the card so that you can tell through the sleeve), why is it illegal to have those other cards? Sure, with no sleeves, that's marked cards, but with them...
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4 years ago ::
Apr 12, 2009 - 10:06AM
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Date Joined:
Jul 30, 2004
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If the deck consists entirely of legal sleeves (once you can't see through, so no possibility of marking the card so that you can tell through the sleeve), why is it illegal to have those other cards? Sure, with no sleeves, that's marked cards, but with them... One of the major classes of gold-bordered cards is the world championship top-4 decks - obviously, there are issues with letting people get the cards for a first-tier deck that cheaply - it would do unpleasant things to the singles market, and have a potent impact on the Constructed environment - as well as cutting into Wizards' profits...
You can argue whether or not it's worth selling pre-constructed tier-1 decks if they're not going to be tournament legal, but it's definitely better than selling them and having them be tournament legal...
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