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4 years ago ::
Feb 25, 2009 - 9:42AM
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I'm glad to hear you're having good luck with MB terror: I 'do' usually side them in versus fae, and they certainly would be no slouch in the BB/WW matchup. Like i said, i'd probably run a couple main, except that i need something to trigger my hovels to come into play untapped. I lost a game versus a RHox War Monk + shield of oversoul deck yesterday b/c my third land came into play tapped and so i couldn't burn the blasted thing.
Imagine instead tapping 2 lands to terror it!
Also, I don't know your current list, but I think you could manage cutting a few hovels.
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4 years ago ::
Feb 25, 2009 - 10:06AM
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Imagine instead tapping 2 lands to terror it!
Also, I don't know your current list, but I think you could manage cutting a few hovels.
I might after putting pools in and testing it.
ok here is my deck list
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24 land
4 aunties hovel
4 graven cairns
4 sulferous spring
2 ghitu encampment
7 mountain
3 swamp
18 creatures
4 mogg fanatic
4 hellspark elemental
4 goblin outlander
3 earwig squad
3 siege gang commander
4 bitterblossom
4 incinerate
4 flame javelin
4 blightning
2 loxodon warhammer
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4 volcanic fallout
4 gutteral response
4 unwilling recruit
3 everlasting torment
sorry for not autocarding.. call me a n00b i guess lol
as u can see, my version has a lot of goblins for hovel and siege gang. add in bitterblossom and earwig squad is alot easier to prowl.
Zoz
no worry about the autocarding, most of us know these cards. 
yeah, it definatly seems like you've got 'goblin blightning' going there. very interesting. I'd like to playtest that if thats ok?
I've been thinking about my version for a while and have made the following changes:
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I really upped the land count from my previous version, but 2 of those are man-lands. I also tossed in the SGC and tightened up my SB somewhat from the janky mix I had before. I'm not 100 % on Cruel Edict, but it has come in handy against pro-red/pro-black critters or creatures that are bigger than 3 toughness, or when the opponent only has one critter on the table and I don't want to cast Fallout to deal with it. 2 BtQ feels right, still, as it would only be played in a pinch. Most games, it would just set comfortably in my hand.
If I were you i'd drop the cruel edict for infest: infest rocks kithkin. ("oh, got two forge tender up, eh?")
you must be having 'crazy' trouble with R/W lark.(boat brew) There's absolutely no reason you should have 9 slots in your SB for a single matchup. Infest and stillmoon are often all the SB you'll need. I could see relic instead of stillmoon in case they've got a lot of burn, but putting in lands to support jund charm is very inefficient imho. Mathematically, your odds of drawing both your jund charm and your savage land, and having the savage untap before turn 5-6 are pretty low.
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"MY LANDS ARE NOW ELEPHANTS" -Pol_Pot
"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch." -Benjamin Franklin
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4 years ago ::
Feb 25, 2009 - 10:18AM
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if i didnt want people to give this version a try, i wouldnt post  it runs very smooth. always has an answer. try it out and let me know what ya think. Zoz
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4 years ago ::
Feb 25, 2009 - 10:23AM
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if i didnt want people to give this version a try, i wouldnt post
it runs very smooth. always has an answer. try it out and let me know what ya think.
Zoz
absolutely. I've added this version to the OP.
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"MY LANDS ARE NOW ELEPHANTS" -Pol_Pot
"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch." -Benjamin Franklin
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4 years ago ::
Feb 25, 2009 - 10:27AM
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I've been thinking about my version for a while and have made the following changes:
Creatures (20)
Mogg Fanatic  x4
Hellspark Elemental  x4
Stigma Lasher  x4
Shambling Remains  x4
Siege-Gang Commander  x2
Murderous Redcap  x2
Spells (16)
Incinerate  x4
Blightning  x4
Volcanic Fallout  x4
Nameless Inversion  x2
Beseech the Queen  x2
Land (24)
Graven Cairns  x4
Auntie's Hovel  x4
Ghitu Encampment  x2
Reflecting Pool  x3
Sulfurous Springs  x4
Swamp  x4
Mountain  x3
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Nameless Inversion x2
Savage Lands  x3
Jund Charm  x3
Relic of Progenitus  x3
Cruel Edict  x4
I really upped the land count from my previous version, but 2 of those are man-lands. I also tossed in the SGC and tightened up my SB somewhat from the janky mix I had before. I'm not 100 % on Cruel Edict, but it has come in handy against pro-red/pro-black critters or creatures that are bigger than 3 toughness, or when the opponent only has one critter on the table and I don't want to cast Fallout to deal with it. 2 BtQ feels right, still, as it would only be played in a pinch. Most games, it would just set comfortably in my hand.
I don't like the Queens, nor the Nameless (unless you run Demigod) strictly because it does not hurt your opponent. If something you draw doesn't either A) Directly effect the game to bring hurt to your opponent (creatures, creature buffs) or B) Directly hurt your opponent (burn or blightning) it shouldn't be in your deck. Dead cards=dead games. This has been the idea of RDW since the beginning of time - sure, this is a variant of RDW and has alot of elements that it never had before (disruption, more importantly) but it still has the same main goal - to kill your opponent in a fast and explosive manner.
Putting lands in your sideboard has been a no-no since these forums have been created, and it still stand today that it is a bad thing to do. In my 5cc, I am pinched for space as it is.. and running lands in my SB as well as my important matchup cards... would kill me! You are wasting valuable space that could be replaced with cards such as: Pithing Needle  , Thoughtseize  , Spot  Removal  , and Infest  against WW/forge-tender.
I am also not sure about your curve - if you're going with siege-gangs and redcaps - 24 lands might not be enough.
Just my 2cents.
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4 years ago ::
Feb 25, 2009 - 12:07PM
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if i didnt want people to give this version a try, i wouldnt post
it runs very smooth. always has an answer. try it out and let me know what ya think.
Zoz
I've got a similar list posted in the Sligh thread that works very well and has a good matchup with Boat. Also in my sig below.
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4 years ago ::
Feb 25, 2009 - 2:49PM
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As requested, I'm moving this thread to the Tournament Center for further discussion.
And so people say to me, "How do I know if a word is real?" You know, anyone who's read a children's book knows that love makes things real. If you love a word, use it! That makes it real. Being in the dictionary is an artificial distinction; it doesn't make the word any more real than any other word. If you love a word, it becomes real.
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4 years ago ::
Feb 25, 2009 - 3:30PM
#58
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Playing R/b currently. for fun
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"MY LANDS ARE NOW ELEPHANTS" -Pol_Pot
"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch." -Benjamin Franklin
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4 years ago ::
Feb 25, 2009 - 7:32PM
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SCG $5K Top 8 had two Rb Blightning decks. I think they should be posted up in the OP. Ken Adams 6th Place SCG $5KCreatures 4 x *Boggart Ram-gang  4 x *Figure Of Destiny  4 x *Goblin Outlander  4 x *Hellspark Elemental  3 x *Mogg Fanatic  4 x *Shambling Remains  Instants 4 x *Flame Javelin  4 x *Incinerate  2 x *Volcanic Fallout  Sorceries 4 x *Blightning  Lands 5 x *Mountain  4 x *Auntie's Hovel  4 x *Ghitu Encampment  4 x *Graven Cairns  2 x *Reflecting Pool  4 x *Sulfurous Springs  Sideboard: 2 x *Dragon's Claw  4 x *Demigod Of Revenge  2 x *Terror  2 x *Volcanic Fallout 1 x *Wild Ricochet  4 x *Infest  Michael McDermott 8th place SCG $5KMaindeck: Creatures 4 x *Boggart Ram-gang 4 x *Figure Of Destiny 4 x *Goblin Outlander 3 x *Hellspark Elemental 3 x *Mogg Fanatic 3 x *Siege-gang Commander  Instants 4 x *Flame Javelin 3 x *Terror 2 x *Volcanic Fallout Sorceries 3 x *Banefire  3 x *Blightning Lands 12 x *Mountain 4 x *Auntie's Hovel 4 x *Graven Cairns 4 x *Sulfurous Springs Sideboard: 4 x *Fulminator Mage  1 x *Hellspark Elemental 1 x *Mogg Fanatic 2 x *Everlasting Torment  3 x *Guttural Response  1 x *Terror 2 x *Volcanic Fallout 1 x *Blightning TBH I think Ken Adams has the right of idea of the next direction of R/b Blightning. With all the Firespouts, Infests, and Volcanic Fallout in the format Siege-Gang is looking less and less good without Reveillark. Demigod also isn't looking too hot either with Path to Exile and Condemn in the format. The last thing an aggro deck wants is to be out-tempoed by control decks, so the 5 mana bombs might have to go to the SB for select match ups. By removing the 5 drops, you can make the deck much more aggressive with more 2 and 3 drops and the mana base can be lightened up to 23 lands. Plus Hellspark Elemental is a hell of a card.
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4 years ago ::
Feb 25, 2009 - 8:13PM
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SCG $5K Top 8 had two Rb Blightning decks. I think they should be posted up in the OP.
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TBH I think Ken Adams has the right of idea of the next direction of R/b Blightning. With all the Firespouts, Infests, and Volcanic Fallout in the format Siege-Gang is looking less and less good without Reveillark. Demigod also isn't looking too hot either with Path to Exile and Condemn in the format. The last thing an aggro deck wants is to be out-tempoed by control decks, so the 5 mana bombs might have to go to the SB for select match ups.
By removing the 5 drops, you can make the deck much more aggressive with more 2 and 3 drops and the mana base can be lightened up to 23 lands.
Plus Hellspark Elemental is a hell of a card.
nice lists, will definatly post them. Hellspark has really impressed me in playtesting: 5 minutes ago I won a game by unearthing one, playing one, and swinging with a shambles for exactly 10.
I've been testing without the 5 drops as well: my 'actual' decklist is the 'Blightning Fallout' one that runs 4 redcaps in siege-gangs' place.
*edit: I already had Ken Adam's deck listed up there. I'll move it around to make it more visible, but I was also very impressed with it.
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"MY LANDS ARE NOW ELEPHANTS" -Pol_Pot
"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch." -Benjamin Franklin
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