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4 years ago  ::  Jul 30, 2009 - 6:57PM #1071
TheBanshee
Date Joined: Aug 8, 2006
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You're running 4 Outlanders, 4 Tattermunges, both of which are less than stellar cards right now, alongside Fallout?
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4 years ago  ::  Jul 30, 2009 - 8:09PM #1072
fireblast890
Date Joined: Nov 6, 2007
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TheBanshee wrote:

You're running 4 Outlanders, 4 Tattermunges, both of which are less than stellar cards right now, alongside Fallout?


ya, ok, ill take the fallouts out, that is not a good idea lol, anyways here it is the other way i had it:

My RB Aggro Deck

Creatures
4 x *Hellspark Elemental
4 x *Goblin Outlander
4 x *Boggart Ram-Gang
4 x *Tattermunge Maniac
4 x *Figure of Destiny
3 x *Demigod of Revenge
2 x *Ball Lightning
Land
11 x *Mountain
4 x *Auntie's Hovel
4 x *Graven Cairns
4 x *Dragonskull Summit
Spells
4 x *Flame Javelin
4 x *Lightning Bolt
3 x *Doom Blade
1 x *Banefire

Sideboard
3 x *Anathemancer
2 x *Chaotic Backlash
3 x *Magma Spray
1 x *Banefire
4 x *Deathmark
2 x *Thought Hemorrhage


for now im keeping tatter and outlanders, dont know what to replace with yet.

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4 years ago  ::  Jul 30, 2009 - 8:24PM #1073
SGTDfromMA
Date Joined: Aug 16, 2007
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TheBanshee wrote:

Okay, so after looking at the three top-8 decks in the proposed OP (which really needs a nice banner), I threw together a list. The only difference is that I will not MD Anathemancers for FNM (actually, I can't find mine right now, so I wont run them at all for FNM)

I tend to use my SB for performance AND testing purposes anyways :P

Anyways, here is the list I threw together, based MAINLY on the top-8 decks, as well as what I know from testing.

B/R Aggro

Creatures - 18
4 x Demigod of Revenge -- It seems good again. I see a lot of Lightning Bolt, Terminate, and Maelstrom Pulse, and a little less PtE now.
4 x Hellspark Elemental -- My choice 2-drop. It's 6 damage in one card, and keeps your steam up. Opponents tend to forget it's in the yard.
4 x Boggart Ram-Gang -- Less good with bolt out there, but it's still a good card. If they Path it, power to them, because that's a turn 4 Demigod.
3 x Figure of Destiny -- I'm trying to get #4.
2 x Sygg, River Cutthroat -- I had really good experience when testing this. My list also runs Blightning, so :P
1 x Ball Lightning -- Still want 4 copies. I'd run 2-3, 3-4 with Sygg.

Spells - 18
4 x Lightning Bolt
4 x Flame Javelin
4 x Blightning -- All 3 lists ran it. G/W Tokens seems to be gone, now... meaning WL-Liege. Also, control and midrange are getting more popular. And it's always good to cut down aggro threats.
3 x Volcanic Fallout -- Wouldn't mind finding space for #4, but I think that would mean running 23 lands (acceptable, but I want to test 24 first. I think with Sygg, 23 may be fine)
2 x Magma Spray -- Finks & Noble hate. 3 & 4 in the SB.
1 x Banefire -- #2 in the SB. This should be staple.

Lands - 24 (I will test this, and 23)
11 x Mountain
1 x Swamp -- PtE is pretty common. Sometimes you get black-screwed.
4 x Dragonskull Summit
4 x Auntie's Hovel -- I wish I had more goblins.
4 x Graven Cairns


SIDEBOARD (always subject to change)
4 x Nyxathid -- A bomb vs aggro, especially in the mirror. I also MD Blightning.
4 x Doom Blade -- BFT hate...
3 x Earthquake -- Seeing if it works out. If you play a control-burn syle game 2 and maybe 3, then this card is a bomb. This is something I will be testing.
2 x Magma Spray
1 x Volcanic Fallout -- I want this MD. Maybe in place of a land.
1 x Banefire -- MD-ing 2 is actually acceptable, I've found. Pulls you wins out of your bung-hole.


I'm liking how this list looks. Like I said earlier, I want more copies of FoD and Ball Lightning, so don't bug about that. Otherwise, any comments?


Based on what I've seen and experienced, 1 Swamp is good. Land base is good. I've been testing with 23 lands lately because I get flooded all the damn time.
I like two Spray MD for obvious reasons.
Banefire is good; I run two. One is good but kind of random. I agree that it should be a staple.
I like Sygg plenty but I think he's better in Jund than in an uber-aggressive Rb build. I could be wrong, though, as Bolt (and Blightning) makes Sygg that much better.
Nyxathid? You're awesome for even bringing it up, though I hope it works out for you. I agree in premise but is tough here.

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4 years ago  ::  Jul 30, 2009 - 9:28PM #1074
TheBanshee
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Since I'm running 4 demigod, and a Banefire, I think I'll try the 24 land. But with Sygg, I've been getting flooded.

Oh, and Sygg is a rockstar in builds with Ball Lightning, Lightning Bolt, and Flame Jav (and if I ran Anathemancer in a meta where it was good). Sygg is good, but a little tough to cast once in a while.

I would like more goblins, but what can you really do?

I'll give Nyxies a shot in the SB. Their great against aggro, and my mana-base should be able to handle it.
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4 years ago  ::  Jul 30, 2009 - 9:34PM #1075
Nvrknwsbest
Date Joined: Jul 26, 2009
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TheBanshee wrote:

Since I'm running 4 demigod, and a Banefire, I think I'll try the 23 land. But with Sygg, I've been getting flooded.

Oh, and Sygg is a rockstar in builds with Ball Lightning, Lightning Bolt, and Flame Jav (and if I ran Anathemancer in a meta where it was good). Sygg is good, but a little tough to cast once in a while.

I would like more goblins, but what can you really do?

I'll give Nyxies a shot in the SB. Their great against aggro, and my mana-base should be able to handle it.


the problem is getting your opponite to have few nuff cards that he works. Question is when would u wanna use him, like in mirrors?

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4 years ago  ::  Jul 30, 2009 - 9:49PM #1076
TheBanshee
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Nyxathid is good in the mirror, yes, and against Jund and WW and other aggro.

Blightning is an added synergy here (and neither card is in there to compliment eachother :P), and I'm fairly confident that Nyxathid will be a good choice against aggro, probably instead or Ram-Gang or something like that.
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4 years ago  ::  Jul 30, 2009 - 10:01PM #1077
Nvrknwsbest
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TheBanshee wrote:

Nyxathid is good in the mirror, yes, and against Jund and WW and other aggro.

Blightning is an added synergy here (and neither card is in there to compliment eachother :P), and I'm fairly confident that Nyxathid will be a good choice against aggro, probably instead or Ram-Gang or something like that.


i personally can't say from exp that he'll be the end all answer to a mirror, but i used to run nyx in my deck *which is close to this one* and i usually ran up against mono red or aggro and he never really got to see any board time and if he did i usually died to a bolt or fallout. but that's just me :D

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4 years ago  ::  Jul 31, 2009 - 5:13AM #1078
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I still think Nyxathid needs some sort of evasion for him to be good, otherwise it's just a Krosan Cloudscraper .
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4 years ago  ::  Jul 31, 2009 - 5:34AM #1079
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TheBanshee wrote:


Anathemancer is BRUTAL right now.

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4 years ago  ::  Jul 31, 2009 - 10:54AM #1080
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Yea, I need to find my Anathemancers

I also need to check out my meta, because I'm still seeing a lot of basic lands around.


If your Nyxathid is dying to Bolt and Fallout against RDW, then learn how to play magic.
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