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4 years ago  ::  Feb 02, 2009 - 11:04PM #51
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CageOfPanacakes wrote:

I dont try lol, I just support MBC enough to make a list I wont put together.

Only thing I try to do is merge the MBC and Demigod black threads >.>

Right now I am working on a decklist that I think will be amazing.


Is it mono black?

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4 years ago  ::  Feb 02, 2009 - 11:40PM #52
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Glux wrote:

Is it mono black?


No I already made an MBC list. I am working on something I will most likely put together.

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4 years ago  ::  Feb 02, 2009 - 11:41PM #53
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CageOfPanacakes wrote:

No I already made an MBC list. I am working on something I will most likely put together.


Good.

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4 years ago  ::  Feb 03, 2009 - 12:18AM #54
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Glux wrote:

Good.


I will come over there.

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4 years ago  ::  Feb 03, 2009 - 12:44AM #55
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Here is a Crucible build:
Lands-24
17 Swamp
4 Terramorphic Expanse
3 Quicksand

Creatures-9
3 Viscera Dragger
3 Shriekmaw
2 Razormane Masticore
1 Oona, Queen of Fae

Spells-27
4 Thoughtseize
4 Bitterblossom
3 Mind Stone
3 Profane Command
3 Unmake
2 Liliana Vess
2 Crucible of Worlds
2 Corrupt
1 Raven's Crime
1 Worm Harvest
1 Mind Shatter
1 Beacon of Unrest

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4 Stillmoon Cavalier
4 Infest
3 Bottle Gnomes
2 Pithing Needle
2 Relic of Progenitus

Ill be working on a creature based build later.
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4 years ago  ::  Feb 03, 2009 - 9:39AM #56
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CageOfPanacakes wrote:

Something off of the top of my head preaty much. This is probley roughly what I would play give or take a few things. Maybe add something lol
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Lands:|

Swamp x24

Creatures:|

Stillmoon Cavalier x4
Dusk Urchins x4
Demigod of Revenge x4
Oona, Queen of the Fae x2
Shriekmaw x3

Spells:|

Bitterblossom x4
Thoughtseize x4
Profane Command x3
Loxodon Warhammer x2
Unmake x3
Beseech the Queen x3

SB

Fleshbag Marauder x3
Faerie Macrebe x3
Infest x3
Fulminator Mage x3
Mind Shatter x2
Everlasting Torment x1


That list needs a bucket of work. The reason everyone keeps saying Demigod Black is MBC is because people keep posting almost identical lists in both threads. Adding 3 tutors and 2 Oonas doesn't make that a control list.

Especially if your gameplan is:
T1: Seize (hopefully)
T2: Bitterblossom, or Shriekmaw a threat.
T3: Play a Stillmoon or Urchin and then ride the threat or build some CA.
T4: Piddle, hold for Unmake?
T5: Yay Demigod.

The problem is you come out with a controlling opening, but then try to change gears into a beater on t3... or sometimes do nothing at all until a t3 beater... or play without any instant speed, nearly no tempo shifters, and hope to live to Demigod.

Control is at its best when it can play on its opponent's turn. 3 Unmake doesn't get there. Its just awkward. Either add a 2cc dude you can use to turn sideways, or toss the aggressive elements, and get some instant speed plays or tempo creatures in the list.

In Banshee's list, if I recall it correctly, he does have many tempo creatures to steal board position. I was using a play-on-your-turn angle with strong defenders.

Here's some changes to my list, taking a few words to heart:
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// Lands
21 [CHK] Swamp (2)
3 [10E] Terramorphic Expanse

// Creatures
1 [10E] Razormane Masticore
2 [LRW] Liliana Vess
4 [10E] Steel Golem

// Spells
3 [EVE] Unmake
3 [SHM] Corrupt
4 [LRW] Thoughtseize
3 [LRW] Profane Command
3 [10E] Chimeric Staff
1 [ALA] Infest
1 [MOR] Mind Shatter
1 [10E] Loxodon Warhammer
1 [10E] Beacon of Unrest
4 [MOR] Bitterblossom
4 [10E] Terror

// Sideboard
SB: 4 [10E] Bottle Gnomes
SB: 3 [EVE] Stillmoon Cavalier
SB: 1 [MOR] Mind Shatter
SB: 4 [ALA] Fleshbag Marauder
SB: 3 [ALA] Infest


Yeah, I totally went there. You get a lot more out of mana invested in that new card than you do in a stillmoon... and it ducks sweepers. And it helps against some common problems we have. I intend to continue testing this at the least.


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4 years ago  ::  Feb 03, 2009 - 3:52PM #57
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CageOfPanacakes wrote:

Only thing I try to do is merge the MBC and Demigod black threads >.>


Yea, I'm having a tough time mixing water and H2O.

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Oct 11, 2012 -- 9:16AM, Enigma256 wrote:

Oct 11, 2012 -- 8:50AM, Chaikov wrote:

What's wrong with my formating?

you make paragraphs shorter than the page width


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4 years ago  ::  Feb 03, 2009 - 3:55PM #58
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Glux wrote:

I don't see why you guys try so hard. It's just not going to happen with this cardpool.


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What's wrong with my formating?

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4 years ago  ::  Feb 03, 2009 - 5:26PM #59
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Simply saying this isn't going to work doesn't mean anything. Faerie cards, aside from cryptic and blossom, are total jank. Look at the deck.

This deck is similar in the sense of synergy, believe it or not. That is why I put the list I have into the OP. I've had good times with it. If you guys think the deck isn't going to work, then leave it, and go away.

And if you guys think this thread doesn't belong because the 50+ paged, clogged thread of a deck that ACTUALLY DOES play completely different from this one already exists, then fine. Post your "mono-black is not viable" there, where you'll get more people to either hop on your bandwagon or flame you for wasting space.

Just thought I'd share a decklist that works for me without putting it in a thread that is going in a different direction and mucking up all the discussion there. But whatever.
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4 years ago  ::  Feb 03, 2009 - 5:43PM #60
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TheBanshee wrote:

Simply saying this isn't going to work doesn't mean anything. Faerie cards, aside from cryptic and blossom, are total jank. Look at the deck.

This deck is similar in the sense of synergy, believe it or not. That is why I put the list I have into the OP. I've had good times with it. If you guys think the deck isn't going to work, then leave it, and go away.

And if you guys think this thread doesn't belong because the 50+ paged, clogged thread of a deck that ACTUALLY DOES play completely different from this one already exists, then fine. Post your "mono-black is not viable" there, where you'll get more people to either hop on your bandwagon or flame you for wasting space.

Just thought I'd share a decklist that works for me without putting it in a thread that is going in a different direction and mucking up all the discussion there. But whatever.


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