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4 years ago  ::  Aug 04, 2009 - 9:41PM #1051
zombievictim904532
Date Joined: Aug 4, 2009
Posts: 17
Daang dude. thanks for the tips bro. K so I'm dropping the urchins for 4 bitterblossom and profanes for infests. Can't cut loose the redcaps they work to well for me. Side board changes look swell. Might swap the doomblades for unmakes entirely. With only one other three drop should have no proplem casting them without overextending myself. Thanks for the help again. Just posted in the vampires forum. You should give it a look if your still felling helpfully. Haha.
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4 years ago  ::  Aug 04, 2009 - 10:45PM #1052
Niche
Date Joined: Apr 25, 2008
Posts: 8,697

Nerzhul, Lord of Darkness wrote:

Read what I told him. This forum has become quite decadent and disrespectful. I played at a time in Magic with true allies on these forums. Spike, Tapatim, Xukko, myself. We all far exceeded you and anyone else on these forums for years.

Me taking over the MBC archetype should be a well respected decision. I'm not some noob that just made this niche and started trolling here. I played in some of the best days of MBC and continued to try and make it work beyond the ideals that people said it couldn't be done.

Though you will probably remain a troll despite these facts. Get over yourself. I was jesting fun with Niche and your brain doesn't comprehend that obviously.


First let me say the thread is yours to maintain Nerzhul. Have at it.

Second, let me get my shots in:
1. I don't need to make my name Niche, Lord of Darkness for everyone to recognize it. I am what I am, and everyone already knows it.

2. I've been running MBC since Necropotence was first minted in Ice Age and Pump Knights were 'in'. I still lament the loss of Mirage Drain Life as a playable when I look at Consume Spirit. When we lost all the pump knights in type 2 I began playing Necro-Drain and was extremely successful with it.

3. Juzam and me are like THIS! *crosses fingers to help you visualize*

4. I'm still going to post in your thread, and you can't stop me no matter how inferior I am. :P

Random aside, Glux has become rather troll-ish lately.



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4 years ago  ::  Aug 05, 2009 - 12:16AM #1053
TheBanshee
Date Joined: Aug 8, 2006
Posts: 3,689

Niche wrote:

Random aside, Glux has become rather troll-ish lately.


Lately?




Anyways, when you have the new thread up and running, post a link here so we can get people to stop posting in this one by that point.

I just got my Memory Plunders 2-4, so there. :P

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4 years ago  ::  Aug 05, 2009 - 5:18AM #1054
Rkork
Date Joined: Jul 23, 2009
Posts: 161
since there was no new topic i will post it here

I made some changes in my deck so here it goes

creatures:
4 Black knight
4 Murderous redcap
2 Nightmare
1 Nyxathid

Spells:
4 Duress
4 Sign in blood
4 Doom Blade
4 Infest
4 Tendrills
2 Corrupt
2 Consume spirit
1 Hounting Echoes

planewalkers:
1 Liliana Vess

SB:
4 Memory Plunder
4 Deathmark
3-4 Flashbag
2 Mind Shatter
1 Liliana Vess
1 Hounting Echoes

Still considering a more pro white/green .... with Taralas Bane which seems a good way to deal with CC and GSS .
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4 years ago  ::  Aug 05, 2009 - 12:53PM #1055
norbert88
Date Joined: Jul 10, 2004
Posts: 106
Heres the list I've been testing for the last week or two:

// Lands
24 [UNH] Swamp

// Creatures
4 [M10] Black Knight
4 [SHM] Demigod of Revenge

// Spells
4 [M10] Tendrils of Corruption
2 [LRW] Liliana Vess
4 [M10] Doom Blade
4 [ALA] Infest
2 [EVE] Unmake
4 [LRW] Thoughtseize
4 [SHM] Corrupt
4 [M10] Sign in Blood

// Sideboard
SB: 4 [ALA] Fleshbag Marauder
SB: 3 [SHM] Trip Noose
SB: 4 [M10] Deathmark
SB: 4 [M10] Duress

It hasn't been testing as well recently. I'm thinking it needs some changes for the new metagame. Maybe its just me, but Infest just doesn't seem as good anymore, with Elves and Kithkin taking a backseat to Jund and 5C. I'm also thinking I need more sb cards for control/combo, probably some combination of Haunting Echoes/Mind Shatter/Scepter of Fugue. Possibly maindeck Trip Noose/Deathmark/Duress? Thoughts?

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4 years ago  ::  Aug 05, 2009 - 1:03PM #1056
Xukko_The_Unholy
Date Joined: Oct 11, 2002
Posts: 837

Rkork wrote:

since there was no new topic i will post it here


He's currently at work, but it'll be up by this evening, at the latest.


Where's your mana base at? How many lands are you running?

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4 years ago  ::  Aug 05, 2009 - 2:04PM #1057
Rkork
Date Joined: Jul 23, 2009
Posts: 161

Xukko_The_Unholy wrote:

He's currently at work, but it'll be up by this evening, at the latest.


Where's your mana base at? How many lands are you running?


Hups my bad

I go with 20 swamps and 4 gargoyle castles

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4 years ago  ::  Aug 05, 2009 - 5:22PM #1058
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Someone remake the thread... I need to have this closed, but I will wait out of respect for your discussions and lack of new thread.

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4 years ago  ::  Aug 05, 2009 - 5:31PM #1059
Revenant-
Date Joined: Nov 18, 2007
Posts: 116
Ok i tested my list that i posted on the page before (iv'e been living in a cave apparently since i just recently found out about a nice little online testing program :P), and overall im pleased with the results. The deck curves nice, has good answers, and after side it gets much, much easier. And the best thing, rarely is the opponent prepared for what im packing :D.

Now i need some advice for which i already asked: do i need more discard? I personally think yes. Mind Shatter, Talara's Bane and Haunting Echoes are tempting, and im thinking of even going 61 card by adding a third Scepter, whenever they entered they were life saving.

Also i need some advice on matchups, from what ive seen Jund i can beat, Ramp i eat alive, Mill is ok, 5cc control is a bit problematic but Plunders+Duress help (thus my discard question), 5cc Bloodbraid is ok, Faeries are... tough....., Merfolk fairly reasonable unless they go off insane, Bant too. Rb aggro is a pain game one, much easier game afterwards. R/G can be problematic if fast but Tendrils and Black Knight stall early.

My worst matchups so far are fast White aggro and Vaults+Time Sieve decks, Soldiers ate me alive, 2 Honors on the board and my Infests get useless, and even with one its tough. What should i board against them, what to kill, pick of with Duress etc. Against Time i sincerely dont know what to do...


CageOfPanacakes wrote:

Someone remake the thread... I need to have this closed, but I will wait out of respect for your discussions and lack of new thread.

MBC for life! or UnLife!


And yes, someone please make a new thread.

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4 years ago  ::  Aug 05, 2009 - 6:58PM #1060
Nerzhul_lord_of_darkness
Date Joined: Oct 23, 2004
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Thread remade, will update original post with my match-up and decklist statistics. If you have a fine tuned version of MBC let me know. I will acknowledge any splash as long as its minor and not a 2 color deck. I personally try to stay true to the heritage of MBC and avoid splashing.
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