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4 years ago  ::  Aug 03, 2009 - 12:01PM #1021
ohgeezjoe
Date Joined: May 24, 2008
Posts: 16
A couple of players running this in my meta, I think they settled on fleshbags as their answer to chameleon. It's something...
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4 years ago  ::  Aug 03, 2009 - 2:04PM #1022
b14ck
Date Joined: Aug 21, 2008
Posts: 186
Probably a good idea to run Infests MD due to the massive popularity of Soldiers and Elves.
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4 years ago  ::  Aug 03, 2009 - 4:07PM #1023
Nerzhul_lord_of_darkness
Date Joined: Oct 23, 2004
Posts: 29
Silence

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4 years ago  ::  Aug 03, 2009 - 4:15PM #1024
Xukko_The_Unholy
Date Joined: Oct 11, 2002
Posts: 837

ohgeezjoe wrote:

A couple of players running this in my meta, I think they settled on fleshbags as their answer to chameleon. It's something...


I don't see why Trip Noose is not used. Fleshbag isn't a 100% way to deal with it - Noose is.

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4 years ago  ::  Aug 03, 2009 - 6:23PM #1025
b14ck
Date Joined: Aug 21, 2008
Posts: 186
Fleshbag always works for me. I've never had to use Trip Noose. A positive thing about the Fleshbag is that he stops the CC in one turn vs every single turn.
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4 years ago  ::  Aug 03, 2009 - 9:27PM #1026
Urza-Planeswalker
Date Joined: Mar 20, 2009
Posts: 291
does Dragonskull Summit count as a swamp and mountain when you play tendrils of corruption ?

i should just ask in the q+a section
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4 years ago  ::  Aug 03, 2009 - 9:38PM #1027
Nerzhul_lord_of_darkness
Date Joined: Oct 23, 2004
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Urza-Planeswalker wrote:

does Dragonskull Summit count as a swamp and mountain when you play tendrils of corruption ?

i should just ask in the q+a section


No. Only if the card says it counts as a swamp and forest. This is a nonbasic land.

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4 years ago  ::  Aug 03, 2009 - 9:40PM #1028
Nerzhul_lord_of_darkness
Date Joined: Oct 23, 2004
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b14ck wrote:

Fleshbag always works for me. I've never had to use Trip Noose. A positive thing about the Fleshbag is that he stops the CC in one turn vs every single turn.


I really don't see how you can make the game go in your favor for Fleshbag against collossus. If they have other creatures and you don't draw into your Fleshbag or keep the board clean, you're going to get rolled very easily by CC. Fleshbag is unreliable hands down.

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4 years ago  ::  Aug 03, 2009 - 9:43PM #1029
lnsomnia
Date Joined: Mar 8, 2009
Posts: 1,377

Nerzhul, Lord of Darkness wrote:

I really don't see how you can make the game go in your favor for Fleshbag against collossus. If they have other creatures and you don't draw into your Fleshbag or keep the board clean, you're going to get rolled very easily by CC. Fleshbag is unreliable hands down.


What you can do is use other removal. Profane Command is also very helpful. Use profane's -X/-X ability, as well as the reanimator ability, bringing back fleshbag. After everything but CC is dead, it has to be sacked. Sweepers like Infest and Earthquake (if you're playing with a red splash) help kill other things too. ('quake can also kill it). But in an aggro-heavy meta, it's hard to kill everything besides CC. Especially with GSS also in the meta...

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4 years ago  ::  Aug 04, 2009 - 12:09PM #1030
Revenant-
Date Joined: Nov 18, 2007
Posts: 116
Here's my take on this deck, with the cards i have atm:

22x Swamp - might add in one more swamp..
2x Leechridden Swamp

24 spells

4x Corrupt
4x Tendrils of Corruption
4x Duress - no moneyseize, but this works fine
4x Sign in Blood
4x Doom Blade
2x Lilliana Vess - tutor, discard, really worth it imo
2x Scepter of Fugue - surprise discard that works well so far

12 creatures

4x Black Knight
4x Hypnotic Specter - i plain like it :D
4x Murderous Redcap - nice little critter, against heavy burn a good Tendrils target :P

Its still under construction. Im a budget player, and i dont want to invest into expensive cards that rotate, so im gonna try and manage with what i have (Corrupt is cheap and needed, obviously, but i guess Consume Spirit will come in its place post rotation in case nothing better comes). The deck seems to work fine overall, and of course has problems with pro B creatures. Thus the side i am working on:

4x Fleshbag Marauder
4x Deathmark
4x Infest
3x Memory Plunder

The way it looks like now, im trying to incorporate some big finisher like Dread , Midnight Banshee or, (best option post rotation so far imo), Nyxathid in the deck, along with some Makeshift Mannequin , because it seems to go well with the Marauders and Redcaps, mb even add some Shriekmaw instead of the Blades if thats possible. Im willing to try the red splash with 4x Terramorphic Expanse + 1 Mountain instead of 4 Swamps, and add in some Puncture Blast vs pro black, or even put Earthquake as everyone suggested, but id like it to stay mono if its really not needed. One more thing, is the deck thinning with terramorphics still a good idea, or should i go with with the setup i have now?
Thx in advance for any advice, i hope with some tweaking i can surprise some people with the deck at FNM this week :D.
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