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Weaboo wrote:

Why do all the lists only run 2 double dragons? Also thoughts on Makeshift Mannequin?

i don't get the shortage of dragons either. I'm running 3 broodmates and 3 cloudthreshers.

problem with mannequin is you've gotta have a fatty in the yard for it to work. so, it just sits in your hand until you've played a fatty AND it has died. I rather just play another fatty instead. It's not bad with finks, but without more cheaper cards to get back early/mid game (perhaps fulminator mage), the mannequin sits in your hand for a long time.

edit: here's my list at the moment (i don't own colossus, and it's working fine nonetheless)

18 creatures

4 elvish visionary
4 kitchen finks
4 sprouting thrinax
3 broodmate dragon
3 cloudthresher

19 other spells

4 rampant growth
3 gift of the gargantuan
4 jund charm
2 blightning
2 bone splinters
4 sarkhan vol

23 lands

advice appreciated, and i need help with a SB. I'm still unsure about the blightning as I haven't drawn them yet. But they're solid CA.

I saw the Flores decklist a while ago, and decided to make one of my own. It ended up with a bunch of Primal commands, Profane commands, Siege-gang's, Broodmates and Ultimatium and Birds of Paradise, which after the second game I realised died to my own sweepers! =[

After looking through this thread, this is my revised version.

Creatures x 15

4x Kitchen Finks
3x Broodmate Dragon
2x Cloudthresher
4x Civic Wayfinder
1x Hellkite Overlord

Spells x 23

3x Garruk Wildspeaker
3x Violent Ultimatium
4x Fertile Ground
2x Profane Command
3x Firespout
2x Primal Command
4x Rampant Growth
2x Eyeblight's Ending

Lands x 23

3x Treetop Village
4x Savage Land
2x Karpulsan Forest
2x Llanowar Wastes
6x Forest
3x Swamp
3x Mountain

Sideboard:
2x Naturalize
3x Jund Charm
2x Pithing Needle
4x Gutteral Response
2x Primal Command
2x Mind Shatter


A couple of points I want to make:
- I don't want Chameleon Colossus in my list because I don't like him much, and I feel this deck should do very well without him.

- I like Profane Command SO much better in this deck instead of Resounding thunder ! I am just finding it so much more usefull during testing!

- Jund Charm hits the sideboard because I feel MD Cloudthresher and Firespout is enough, Jund Charm is in the Sideboard to combat 'Lark & friends, and for extra *sweeeeep* against Kithkin/Fae decks.

- I have barely any way of dealing with an opponent's Chameleon Colossus. Eyeblight's ending, Profane, both black? That is the only reason Resounding Thunder got ANY thought in my build. Best I can do is Primal-Bounce to the hand and race in the damage!

- Last point! I have no card-draw, but I really hate Elvish Visionary ! He seems slow, and nets me one chump block and ONE card. Just doesn't seem enough to me!

Testing begins in 2 days, so I'll let you know how I go. It will be tested against an Exalted-bant aggro-control deck, a Red-deck wins (without Demi-god) and possible a beefy Treefolk deck. Advice, criticism, conversation and discussion is all thanked, and welcome!

Edit: Just a quick after-thought: I will test Gift of Gargantuan as my "Card Draw". It can be great when you need to dig for a fat creature, but bad if you have to put a Violent Ultimatium or a much-needed Fertile ground on the bottom of your Library!

Unknown1 wrote:

Needs Garruk and Violent Ultimatum. Garruk is a machine in this deck. And Violent wins games.

how is it that Flores got 9th in NY states without either? I tend to agree with you about Garruk, not so much about the ultimatum.

abaddon19 wrote:

- I have barely any way of dealing with an opponent's Chameleon Colossus. Eyeblight's ending, Profane, both black? That is the only reason Resounding Thunder got ANY thought in my build. Best I can do is Primal-Bounce to the hand and race in the damage!

EPIC FAIL!