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4 years ago  ::  May 11, 2009 - 8:46PM #1071
Sliver21
Date Joined: Mar 30, 2001
Posts: 321

avenged_sixfold wrote:

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Returning 8/8s to play via Lark is good.


Free board presence is much better than board presence you have to pay for.

If you have the mana to make him huge, sure, go for it. But this format is far too fast for that.

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4 years ago  ::  May 11, 2009 - 9:23PM #1072
Blazerunner
Date Joined: Nov 19, 2008
Posts: 127

IronMagus wrote:

T1 Plains, figure
T2 Windbrisk, pump figure, swing
T3 Prairie, then just swing. If they try to burn it, then you pump, but if you try to pump first they'll just kill it in response (Magma Spray, etc.). If they're tapped out, though, or have no red mana up you can probably safely pump before swinging.

If you T3 Spectral with a 2/2 Figure out already, you're just going to cry when they drop a Fallout/Infest next turn...


I think this is quite right. But by turn 3, you will already know what is he playing. If it is definetly something without sweepers (and you won't eat a broken ambitions), you can play your procession to try windbrisk next turn. Otherwise just pump figure at EOT, I guess.

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4 years ago  ::  May 12, 2009 - 10:02AM #1073
Nick_mi
Date Joined: Dec 1, 2008
Posts: 233
Interesting, so you guys always want to pump figure to 4/4 turn 3?
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4 years ago  ::  May 12, 2009 - 1:56PM #1074
Cyklown
Date Joined: Apr 14, 2008
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Nick_mi wrote:

Interesting, so you guys always want to pump figure to 4/4 turn 3?


I wouldn't say always, but it's generally a good play.

It's a fairly reasonable power:mana investment still, and it keeps it a relevant threat. Additionally, it brings it out of a certain chunk of the available removal's range.

Apr 16, 2012 -- 9:12PM, Uhhsam wrote:


Luckily, we have stop-having-fun guys to remind us that having anything more than 60 cards in your deck is tantamount to being a rapist and anyone considering it should be strung up by their **** .

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4 years ago  ::  May 15, 2009 - 8:58AM #1075
Greyfox1
Date Joined: May 15, 2009
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// Lands
4 [LRW] Windbrisk Heights
4 [10E] Battlefield Forge
4 [EVE] Rugged Prairie
4 [SHM] Reflecting Pool
4 [UNH] Plains
4 [LRW] Mountain

// Creatures
3 [ALA] Ajani Vengeant
3 [MOR] Reveillark
1 [LRW] Flamekin Harbinger
4 [10E] Mogg Fanatic
3 [10E] Siege-Gang Commander
3 [ALA] Ranger of Eos
4 [EVE] Figure of Destiny
4 [ALA] Knight of the White Orchid

// Spells
4 [CFX] Path to Exile
4 [SHM] Spectral Procession
4 [10E] Incinerate

// Sideboard
SB: 4 [CFX] Volcanic Fallout
SB: 3 [LRW] Whispmare
SB: 2 [EVE] Stillmoon Cavalier
SB: 2 [CFX] Banefire
SB: 4 [10E] Wrath of God

So this is the current list i am running and planning on taking to regionals. I dont have much play testing in with bw tokens so i am needing some input on sideboard decisions and main deck decisions.
I like having the incinerates main deck because its extra damage as well as spot removal early game if need be.
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4 years ago  ::  May 15, 2009 - 9:16AM #1076
videogamer99
Date Joined: Jan 15, 2009
Posts: 182
I play R/W Kithkin, but I have had an interest in this deck. Does anyone think that Fight to the Death from ARB may be a good Sb option against opposing aggro decks? It can clear the field and help you sac your Lark and get more creatures into play
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4 years ago  ::  May 15, 2009 - 8:43PM #1077
MrIndigo
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Date Joined: Mar 27, 2003
Posts: 13,416

Greyfox1 wrote:

// Lands
4 [LRW] Windbrisk Heights
4 [10E] Battlefield Forge
4 [EVE] Rugged Prairie
4 [SHM] Reflecting Pool
4 [UNH] Plains
4 [LRW] Mountain

// Creatures
3 [ALA] Ajani Vengeant
3 [MOR] Reveillark
1 [LRW] Flamekin Harbinger
4 [10E] Mogg Fanatic
3 [10E] Siege-Gang Commander
3 [ALA] Ranger of Eos
4 [EVE] Figure of Destiny
4 [ALA] Knight of the White Orchid

// Spells
4 [CFX] Path to Exile
4 [SHM] Spectral Procession
4 [10E] Incinerate

// Sideboard
SB: 4 [CFX] Volcanic Fallout
SB: 3 [LRW] Whispmare
SB: 2 [EVE] Stillmoon Cavalier
SB: 2 [CFX] Banefire
SB: 4 [10E] Wrath of God

So this is the current list i am running and planning on taking to regionals. I dont have much play testing in with bw tokens so i am needing some input on sideboard decisions and main deck decisions.
I like having the incinerates main deck because its extra damage as well as spot removal early game if need be.


Even if sweepers like Wrath and Fallout were good in this deck (and they're not), 8 is massively overkill. I'd consider Glorious Anthem or Ajani Goldmane or Windborn Muse in the board over them.

I would run only one or two Wispmare; you can tutor and recur them fairly easily. I would run the full 4 Stillmoon Cavalier for tokens.

I think you want at least 2 Burrenton Forge-Tender in your SB.

Nov 4, 2010 -- 9:11AM, Niche wrote:

Nov 3, 2010 -- 10:05PM, Razorgore wrote:

It's really not even about giving niche cards to black.



It should be about giving black cards to Niche.

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4 years ago  ::  May 15, 2009 - 10:09PM #1078
AJM
Date Joined: May 24, 2008
Posts: 69

MrIndigo wrote:

I would run the full 4 Stillmoon Cavalier for tokens.


I have loved the Stillmoon in the past. But now that Zealous persecution is out, I feel their value has decreased significantly in that match up, don't you think?

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4 years ago  ::  May 15, 2009 - 10:35PM #1079
lain2k4
Date Joined: Sep 21, 2008
Posts: 500

AJM wrote:

I have loved the Stillmoon in the past. But now that Zealous persecution is out, I feel their value has decreased significantly in that match up, don't you think?


I agree with this. Although I would say that this means you should run the full 4 or zero, so you are effected less by ZP either way. Stillmoons and anthems could be good also.

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4 years ago  ::  May 15, 2009 - 11:28PM #1080
MrIndigo
  • Mr. Indigo
Date Joined: Mar 27, 2003
Posts: 13,416

AJM wrote:

I have loved the Stillmoon in the past. But now that Zealous persecution is out, I feel their value has decreased significantly in that match up, don't you think?


Their value has certainly decreased in that matchup.

That said, a creature that blocks and kills all of their junk or swings for big-hits unimpeded, and can only be killed by the sweeper they want to save for your Spectrals is still pretty good.

It's not invincible, but it's probably the best card available for the matchup.l

Nov 4, 2010 -- 9:11AM, Niche wrote:

Nov 3, 2010 -- 10:05PM, Razorgore wrote:

It's really not even about giving niche cards to black.



It should be about giving black cards to Niche.

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