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4 years ago  ::  May 25, 2009 - 8:42PM #1111
lain2k4
Date Joined: Sep 21, 2008
Posts: 500

DNDinthepeg wrote:

Honestly you're best bet is to use cards that are going to be useful in many different situations and matchups like: Pithing Needle , Austere Command

Another good option to throw in there may be Story Circle


Story circle won't work unless you plan on keeping a LOT of white mana up at all times.

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4 years ago  ::  May 26, 2009 - 6:45AM #1112
DNDinthepeg
Date Joined: Sep 10, 2004
Posts: 18
You don't have to prevent all of it, just enough to stay alive 3 or so should be fine in most situations. However you are right it isn't ideal by any means.
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4 years ago  ::  May 26, 2009 - 10:51AM #1113
Nick_mi
Date Joined: Dec 1, 2008
Posts: 233
I had wrath in my sb, and took it out because I agree it counter-acts with the deck, but b/w is a faster agro deck who's job is to lay all thier cards on the table and kill you before you can recover. Wrath stops that straight up. It may be a bad card, but I feel it's good enough

Why is no one usng everlasting torment ? Seems to me that it would shut down swans entirely, while actually serving another purpose.

So what do peoples sbs look like rigt now if you're going to a ptq and and knowing the meta as it is now?

I'm thinking
1 banefire(I have 1 mainboarded)
3 burretons(I have 1 mainboarded)
2 ajani goldmanes
3 windborn muse
3 wrath of god
3 guttural response

I might remove the ajani for something else, as ajani is mainly for tokens to give me more ajani hate and now I'm running 3 wraths/windborns mainly for tokens.

Any other thoughts? I might throw n everlasting torrments if swans really starts hitting the meta hard
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4 years ago  ::  May 26, 2009 - 4:24PM #1114
Revan_
Date Joined: Oct 5, 2008
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Problem with story circle is, unless you have at least 10 white mana open your dead. The swans deck I played against, begins the combo and doesn't stop till he has at least half his deck drawn. So he may only have to ditch 10 lands, but I am sure he has more, when he is running a 42 card mana base
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4 years ago  ::  May 26, 2009 - 4:26PM #1115
lain2k4
Date Joined: Sep 21, 2008
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Revan_ wrote:

Problem with story circle is, unless you have at least 10 white mana open your dead. The swans deck I played against, begins the combo and doesn't stop till he has at least half his deck drawn. So he may only have to ditch 10 lands, but I am sure he has more, when he is running a 42 card mana base


They won't have 20 lands in hand.

Story circle with 3-4 mana open will keep you alive, but you still have damage coming in from swans, bloodbraid, and Manlands that will likely kill you.

Story circle is really bad in this meta in general though.

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4 years ago  ::  Jun 28, 2009 - 8:45AM #1116
Azziii
Date Joined: May 3, 2009
Posts: 147
this thread pretty much has died.

Do any of you think Boat Brew will make a recurrence? M10 is bringing some good stuff to the table, including a nice burn spell.
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4 years ago  ::  Jun 28, 2009 - 11:36AM #1117
Greg_the_Egg
Date Joined: Apr 13, 2008
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There's totally a thread here for RW Tokens discussion.
Umm, so I don't really frequent these forums any more, but I do blog for my website Greatplay.net.
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