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5 years ago ::
Nov 03, 2008 - 4:37PM
#11
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Date Joined:
Apr 16, 2007
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predator dragon?
NO LOTUS MUTHA ****IN' SHOPS BURN'T DOWN THE MUTHA ****IN' GENCON
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5 years ago ::
Nov 03, 2008 - 5:41PM
#12
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I just golfished a bunch of games and I don't see how your list averages a turn 4 combo. You need Distant Melody to go off, and it's only a 2-of in your list. You only dig spells are 4 Manamorphose, which often don't get you there.
I question the lack of Visionary.
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5 years ago ::
Nov 03, 2008 - 7:02PM
#13
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Should this deck run a non-red finisher, since Burrenton Forge-Tender  is now mainboard material for Kithkin? Maybe a singleton Imperious Perfect  ? I also support the addition of Elvish Visionary  . ~Zozobra
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5 years ago ::
Nov 03, 2008 - 9:22PM
#14
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// Lands
3 [10E] Yavimaya Coast
3 [10E] Karplusan Forest
10 [US] Forest (4)
// Creatures
4 [MOR] Heritage Druid
4 [EVE] Nettle Sentinel
4 [ALA] Elvish Visionary
4 [10E] Llanowar Elves
4 [10E] Skyshroud Ranger
1 [EVE] Regal Force
// Spells
4 [10E] Chromatic Star
2 [LRW] Gilt-Leaf Ambush
4 [LRW] Elvish Promenade
4 [SHM] Manamorphose
4 [LRW] Primal Command
1 [MOR] Roar of the Crowd
4 [MOR] Distant Melody
This is what I have been testing and so far (just in goldfishing) it seems way more consistent than the list in the OP. Chromatic fixes colors and digs you a card to keep going. Ranger seems unnecessary and makes the mana bad.
Vivid Grove is awful here.
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5 years ago ::
Nov 04, 2008 - 12:28AM
#15
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Date Joined:
Dec 11, 2006
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I ran a similar deck before, only I had Akroma's Memorial  as a finisher. With that gone, I'm considering the use of Mirrorweave  , sort of an "elf-weave" variant. I'll go Gwu for this one. What do you think?
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5 years ago ::
Nov 04, 2008 - 6:27AM
#16
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Date Joined:
Aug 21, 2005
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I've been running this since Alan Comber(? thats how you spell it) brang his to PT Hollywood: MonoGElfGrenadeLands: 17 x *Forest  1 x *Mosswort Bridge  Creatures: 4 x *Elvish Eulogist  4 x *Llanowar Elves  4 x *Heritage Druid  2 x *Nettle Sentinel  4 x *Bramblewood Paragon  4 x *Wren's Run Vanquisher  2 x *Wolf-Skull Shaman  4 x *Imperious Perfect  2 x *Masked Admirers  Spells 4 x *Gilt-Leaf Ambush  4 x *Hunting Triad  4 x *Elvish Promenade  It's more sligh elf ball than elf ball combo but I like it.
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5 years ago ::
Nov 04, 2008 - 7:57AM
#17
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Date Joined:
Nov 21, 2007
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Splashing black for Thoughtseize is probably your best bet just because it not only gets rid of a potential hoser for your combo, but also gives you the information you need to play around whatever else is in their hand.
I've been testing with Coat of Arms as a win condition and it's been doing pretty well (main problem match-up is Fae because of their Thoughtseizes and Vendelion Cliques).
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5 years ago ::
Nov 04, 2008 - 8:14AM
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My average kill is turn 4 thanks to either primal command  or ranger of eos  fetching me the last pieces I need for the combo. After some more testing I think we should remove blue and go up to 3 Regal Force  , since we have enough accel and are splashing 2 colors already. A red win con doesn't sacrifice alot, even if you don't have another manamorphose  you can just recollect  and make red. However, as Zozobra correctly pointed out, burrenton forge-tender  foils roar of the crowd  . Even then, they don't run mass removal, and you have an army of over 100 elves while you temporal spring  'd several of their lands with Primal command. Also, both recollect and the Command allow you to re-use it until they are out of Forge-tenders. I also like Elvish Visionary ... and I'll see how and if Gilt-leaf archdruid  fits in. Thanks for the comments so far! Editing now!
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5 years ago ::
Nov 04, 2008 - 9:19AM
#19
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Date Joined:
Aug 17, 2007
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// Lands
3 [10E] Yavimaya Coast
3 [10E] Karplusan Forest
10 [US] Forest (4)
// Creatures
4 [MOR] Heritage Druid
4 [EVE] Nettle Sentinel
4 [ALA] Elvish Visionary
4 [10E] Llanowar Elves
4 [10E] Skyshroud Ranger
1 [EVE] Regal Force
// Spells
4 [10E] Chromatic Star
2 [LRW] Gilt-Leaf Ambush
4 [LRW] Elvish Promenade
4 [SHM] Manamorphose
4 [LRW] Primal Command
1 [MOR] Roar of the Crowd
4 [MOR] Distant Melody
This is what I have been testing and so far (just in goldfishing) it seems way more consistent than the list in the OP. Chromatic fixes colors and digs you a card to keep going. Ranger seems unnecessary and makes the mana bad.
Vivid Grove is awful here.
Am I seeing that correctly with 16 lands? I realize there's lots of mana-producers in the list, and am looking to build a variant of this type of deck, but I'm just wondering if that's the land total I should be shooting for?
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5 years ago ::
Nov 04, 2008 - 9:57AM
#20
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It's too bad Glimpse of Nature  isn't in Standard, huh?
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