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Sn0man13 wrote:

i like the idea of the list. i might proxy it up and test it out.

Looks cool.

How reliable is the 5 black mana for the demigod on 5-6?

On turn 5... half the time... Turn 6-7 the rest.. which is fine, there's plenty of other things to do until then. Upping the land count would guarantee this,but I feel no need to water down the turn 3 fatties.

magicguy1 wrote:

Why are you not running Damnation ? Your list doesn't have any creatures that come out before you can play Damnation. I might also suggest Unmake . The only thing I can see getting rid of for it is Sudden Death though. I might consider putting Sudden Death in the SB against Fae. Also, Sudden Spoiling can make for a good SB card as well. Whether it be against a big mana deck with protected fatties like Colossus or Fae, it can be very useful. Thoughtseize might also not be bad. You could always add Bitterblossm, but the same could be said for almost any deck with black. Tendrils of Corruption also seems like it would fit nicely. It removes a blocker and gains you some life. Another creature that might work would be Divinity of Pride . Most of these suggestions would make the deck more like MBC. Not sure if that's direction you wanted to go in.

Damnation is something to consider, but most midrange lists don't need it if they run the right removal and choose their targets wisely. Which is what we'll do. We want to jump out at turn 3 with a fatty... then a follow up with another head-shaking fatty... and maybe a 3rd if needed or a loxodon to seal the deal. As long as we remove vanquishers and anything bigger than our guys we should run the table.

I'll say this again; Unmake is distinctly inferior to Sudden Death in the current meta that is dominated by faeries. When sets rotate Unmake will get the nod.

I've been thinking on the sideboard, odds are it'll include Sudden Spoiling along with Faerie Macabre/Extirpate, Fulminator Mage, Tendrils, and maybe an Icy/Trip Noose pair.

magicguy1 wrote:

How many time do you cast 3 big threats in a row turns 3-5? Those threats can get chump blocked a lot if you don't get your hammers. I think Colossus is a bigger threat than you realize. I would definitely SB Trip Noose if you decide to not run Damnations. You could get overrun with a creature swarm. Although people might hold back figuring that you have a Damnation, which would of course benefit you. Just something to consider.

I think I'm keenly aware of how big a threat the CC is, not to be short but I've won my way through 2 tourneys recently facing down no less than 10 chameleon colossus at each one in the swiss and top 8.

I'm running *17* fat creatures. And not 1 or 2, but *3* Loxodon Warhammers. 3 is enough to see one by your 10th card typically, and 17 fatties pretty much dictates that I'll see a minimum of 2 by my 10th card as well, if not 3rd by my 15th. I devoted a whole section answering how I'd handle Chameleon Colossus, he was the first and foremost thought I had when creating this list. Look at the list, its fatties+land+splashed removal. I'm not talking best case scenario I'll drop 2 or maybe 3 fatties. That's all this deck is designed to do.

And yes, the sideboard will have additional chameleon colossus hatred.