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4 years ago  ::  May 27, 2009 - 4:29PM #1231
Nixonmtg
Date Joined: May 12, 2009
Posts: 147
Its a great deck, if you mull and play right.

T1 Land, Noble/Bird
T2 Land, Shorecrasher
T3 Land, Rafiq, Swing for 14 trample.
T4 Land, Finest Hour, Swing for 15, then for 18, Win

and with proper mull'n it is very easy to pull off. i mulled to 3 and won many times. but like a previous poster said if you don't win by t6 you lose.

Vanysh wrote:

5cc

Every little bit helps here. Early game you want to maximize damage output. The build I played against ran Wall of Denial. In which I had nearly no answers for. Bant Charm doesn't work, PtE doesn't work, Snakeform=no, and Negate = no as well. Double-strike and Finest Hour and attacking with more creatures are the only answers for this wall. (Attack with Rhox War Monk just because you'll gain the life.)

Play around their bounce/counter. Bant Charm their cryptic commands. And take out their Planewalkers FIRST and foremost.


I am curious, do you mean they literaly had a wall of denial? or the creature and if it was the creature why wouldn't bant charm, PTe and snakeform work????

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4 years ago  ::  May 27, 2009 - 5:49PM #1232
syaorantoni
Date Joined: Apr 9, 2007
Posts: 69

Vanysh wrote:

Hmm, I wouldn't know how that build works...I'm very curious about Knotvine Paladin. I'm assuming most builds don't use it because of the Jhessian and the Shorecrashers. Both of those 2 drops allow for some neat tricks and synergy.

So, if Knotvine attacks with a noble hierarch and a rafiq in play, he becomes a 6/6 right? 2/2 from exalted, and 2/2 from his own ability....

I would still like to test it out and see how it works.


Well for me work like other option for turn 2, and again for me work well with the Hammer; what happen most of the times is that always have either the Paladin or Inflitrator and a Hammer.

Also Propagandist says that Paladin work well with Elspeth, I will to borrow 2 from my friends, that also going to assist to the "Regional", and look to test; and besides that what do you think about the rest of the deck.


   
   
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4 years ago  ::  May 27, 2009 - 6:19PM #1233
Nixonmtg
Date Joined: May 12, 2009
Posts: 147
well elspeth is good but doesn't pump shorcrasher the right way. but it does the trick
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4 years ago  ::  May 27, 2009 - 6:40PM #1234
Arven
Date Joined: Oct 18, 2006
Posts: 1,363

NixonMTG wrote:

I am curious, do you mean they literaly had a wall of denial? or the creature and if it was the creature why wouldn't bant charm, PTe and snakeform work????


Because Wall of Denial has shroud.

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4 years ago  ::  May 27, 2009 - 7:33PM #1235
Nixonmtg
Date Joined: May 12, 2009
Posts: 147
OH RIGHT ON YOU. ( i feel stupid) any way, well M. Mage the wall rofl
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4 years ago  ::  May 27, 2009 - 8:59PM #1236
Glux
Date Joined: Oct 16, 2007
Posts: 6,250

NixonMTG wrote:

i mulled to 3 and won many times. but like a previous poster said if you don't win by t6 you lose.


Against 60x Mountain or what? There are zero competitive decks in standard that won't beat a mulligan to three every time, yet you've managed to win many times!

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4 years ago  ::  May 27, 2009 - 9:39PM #1237
tanatastic
Date Joined: Oct 4, 2008
Posts: 482

Glux wrote:

Against 60x Mountain or what? There are zero competitive decks in standard that won't beat a mulligan to three every time, yet you've managed to win many times!


Its easy. You simply topdeck all ur good cards in the same order, every time. If those annoying token players can do it, so can I! LOL!

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4 years ago  ::  May 27, 2009 - 10:59PM #1238
Vanysh
Date Joined: Oct 21, 2007
Posts: 160
Ok guys. With the metagame changing this deck needs to change.

Seismic Assault is big. And I fear B/W tokens is going to diminish in popularity and Faeries are going to come back strong to combat against the combo decks. I think it is fair to say that the current Bant build is way too vulnerable for this type of environment. So it needs an overhaul. And I have the first version of the overhaul here. Without sideboard, and it is not that stellar or special, no new tech yet but I'm looking:

4x Noble Hierarch
3x Birds of Paradise
4x Qasali Pridemage
4x Meddling Mage
3x Dauntless Escort
3x Jenara, Asura of War
3x Rafiq of the Many

4x Bant Charm
3x Cryptic Command
3x Negate
2x Path to Exile

4x Brushland
4x Yavimaya Coast
3x Mystic Gate
4x Reflecting Pool
3x Treetop Village
3x Forest
2x Island
1x Plains



Well? Jhessian and Shorecrasher are gone because they both are unreliable and require good setup. This deck needs a bit more stability. Qasali handles problems, and so does Meddling Mage. They both do. Know the metagame well. Dauntless Escort I felt lacked in the more aggro centralized builds but in this it stands out and needs to be here. Cryptic Commands and Negates both keep your guys out. And keeping guys out is great when you have Exalted creatures and Rafiqs.

Cards to consider:

Ponder
Reborn Hope
Stoic Angel (Sideboard)
Rhox War Monk (Sideboard)
Snakeform (Sideboard)
Mulldrifter
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4 years ago  ::  Jun 01, 2009 - 10:09AM #1239
Neberus
Date Joined: Jun 16, 2008
Posts: 139
i dont like the new thread in tournament center, remake this one there please
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