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5 years ago  ::  Oct 05, 2008 - 11:02AM #51
CyrusBales
Date Joined: Aug 30, 2007
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I'm not seeing any "super-secret tech" against Q'n'T, even though it most assuredly exists.....
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5 years ago  ::  Oct 05, 2008 - 2:06PM #52
Qilongia
Date Joined: Apr 6, 2004
Posts: 1,456

CyrusBales wrote:

I'm not seeing any "super-secret tech" against Q'n'T, even though it most assuredly exists.....


That's because Bant Control here is looking more and more LIKE QnT. Curious. So how does QnT beat QnT?

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5 years ago  ::  Oct 05, 2008 - 2:40PM #53
MrIndigo
  • Mr. Indigo
Date Joined: Mar 27, 2003
Posts: 13,427
I'm testing Guile+additional permission. If you're running Bant-Control-That-Looks-Like-Toast, you should just play Toast and get the Ultimatum and stuff on your team.

Nov 4, 2010 -- 9:11AM, Niche wrote:

Nov 3, 2010 -- 10:05PM, Razorgore wrote:

It's really not even about giving niche cards to black.



It should be about giving black cards to Niche.

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5 years ago  ::  Oct 05, 2008 - 5:12PM #54
slayn_47
Date Joined: Mar 26, 2008
Posts: 29
Hi!

I tried making a rough Bant deck but i need some help...

Here's the list so far. (Forgot how to make deck list tags)

Akrasan Squire x 4
Rhox War Monk x 3
Stoic Angel x 2
Chameleon Collosus x 4
Battlegrace Angel x 2
Archon of Justice x 2

Hindering Light x 4
Courier's Capsule x 4
Oblivion Ring x 3
Snakeform x 3
Bant Charm x 3
Wrath of God x 2

Island x 4
Forest x 4
Plains x 8
Seaside Citadel x 4
Wooded Bastion x 4

Not entirely sure on manabase so far and any help would be highly appreciated. TIA
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5 years ago  ::  Oct 05, 2008 - 5:14PM #55
ix_deadend
Date Joined: Mar 25, 2007
Posts: 1,064
we're more or less on equal footing with QnT creature-wise. if you can lay down a planeswalker like elspeth, the toast player would be hard put to deal with him. hindering light can counter shriekmaw or bounce effects from cryptic command, and faerie macabre can remove mannequin targets. i think the toast match-up is pretty even with draw quality mattering more than usual, just like the mirror matches of solarflare and dralnu du louvre in the past.
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5 years ago  ::  Oct 05, 2008 - 5:29PM #56
Qilongia
Date Joined: Apr 6, 2004
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ix_deadend wrote:

we're more or less on equal footing with QnT creature-wise. if you can lay down a planeswalker like elspeth, the toast player would be hard put to deal with him. hindering light can counter shriekmaw or bounce effects from cryptic command, and faerie macabre can remove mannequin targets. i think the toast match-up is pretty even with draw quality mattering more than usual, just like the mirror matches of solarflare and dralnu du louvre in the past.


Hindering cannot counter Shriek: it's a cip effect of a permanent, not an effect of a spell.

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5 years ago  ::  Oct 06, 2008 - 4:28PM #57
ix_deadend
Date Joined: Mar 25, 2007
Posts: 1,064

Qilongia wrote:

Hindering cannot counter Shriek: it's a cip effect of a permanent, not an effect of a spell.


true. i guess i overlooked that part. what else can we SB against control variants though? there's sure to be a rise in QnT, solarflare and bant control. prolly some other control decks out there as well.

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5 years ago  ::  Oct 06, 2008 - 4:54PM #58
Oldhat
  • Most High and Mighty
Date Joined: Dec 3, 2005
Posts: 1,030
I just rode Elspeth to a win last night. 4/4 Flying Soldier each turn put him down, especially with enough counter back-up. Guile also won me a game, which was handy. Any deck that runs at sorcery-speed is hard pressed to deal with MrIndigo's list. I basically am running that, with few changes (no Mutavaults). A 28/28 flying Chameleon Colossus won me another game. That is hilarious. Bant Charm has proven absurd. Its counter ability won me many games.
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5 years ago  ::  Oct 07, 2008 - 7:14AM #59
gmcwilliams
Date Joined: Oct 15, 2007
Posts: 69
Here is my decklist any suggestions?

Lands:
4x Reflecting Pool
4x Seaside Citadel
3x Mystic Gate
3x Flooded Grove
3x Mutavault
1x Wooded Bastion
1x Adarkar Waste
1x Plains
2x Island
1x Forest
Total: 23

Spells:
3x Ponder
3x Courier's Capsule
2x Runed Halo
3x Bant Charm
3x Cancel
2x Wrath of God
2x Elspeth, Knight Errant
4x Cryptic Command
Total: 22

Creatures:
3x Knight of Meadowgrain
4x Rhox War Monk
4x Chameleon Colossus
3x Stoic Angel
1x Rafiq the Many
Total: 15

Sideboard:
3x Condem
3x Faerie Trickery
3x Wispmare
2x Wheel of Sun and Moon
4x ???

Suggestions or critiques welcome.
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5 years ago  ::  Oct 07, 2008 - 7:22AM #60
tallowisp24
Date Joined: Apr 12, 2006
Posts: 1,303
Absolutely dominated last night in testing with a few of my friends (who were testing RGW Mid-Range, New Fae, my "Great White Hope" deck, Kithkin and Demigod):

4 stoic angel
2 battlegrace angel
1 empyrial archangel

3 condemn
4 broken ambition
3 courier's capsule
2 mobilization
1 oona's grace
3 bant charm
2 oblivion ring
4 cryptic command
2 elspeth, knight-errant
3 wrath of god
2 primal command

4 seaside citadel
4 reflecting pool
2 wooded bastion
1 flooded grove
3 mystic gate
4 adarkar wastes
1 yavimaya coast
2 brushland
3 plains

SB:
4 flash freeze
3 runed halo
2 oblivion ring
4 kitchen finks
2 cloudthresher
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