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5 years ago  ::  Oct 10, 2008 - 10:33PM #191
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Guardian Phoenix wrote:

I'll admit, I don't actually know the correct answers for these questions. I think ante might not be quite so well supported anymore.


You know, Caldera just admitted to me he didn't know the answer to a question he submitted.

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5 years ago  ::  Oct 10, 2008 - 10:36PM #192
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Feigel wrote:

The Creature sacrificed to Offering is sacrificed as the Spell is announced at [409.1a].
It's not In Play to affect the Total Cost of the Spell when it's calculated in [409.1f].

Thus, the Spell Cost ; - + +
[indent]502.42b The permanent is sacrificed at the same time the spell is announced (see rule 409.1a). The total cost of the spell is reduced by the sacrificed permanent's mana cost (see rule 409.1f).[/indent]


The rules you quote don't help at all. However, the relevant rule (502.42a) says you are right. One point.

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5 years ago  ::  Oct 10, 2008 - 10:41PM #193
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Day 4; Question 2 Show

Player A controls Recycle . Player B controls Stasis and Eon Hub .

What happens when Player B's Ends Phase ends?


In player A's turn The Untap, Upkeep, and Draw steps are skipped. I see nothing special about whats happening here.

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5 years ago  ::  Oct 10, 2008 - 10:42PM #194
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Leftconsin wrote:

The rules you quote don't help at all. However, the relevant rule (502.42a) says you are right. One point.


We're grateful for the point... But, what you wrote is puzzling Us.

How is [502.42a] the "relevant" Rule in this situation, whereas [502.42b] is not?
[indent]502.42a Offering is a static ability of a card that functions in any zone from which the card can be played. "[Text] offering" means "You may play this card any time you could play an instant by sacrificing a [text] permanent. If you do, the total cost to play this card is reduced by the sacrificed permanent's mana cost."

502.42b [color=black]The permanent is sacrificed at the same time the spell is announced (see rule 409.1a).[/color] The total cost of the spell is reduced by the sacrificed permanent's mana cost (see rule 409.1f).[/indent]
[502.42b] explicitly states when the Permanent is sacrificed, [502.42a] doesn't.

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5 years ago  ::  Oct 10, 2008 - 10:44PM #195
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Feigel wrote:

We're grateful for the point... But, what you wrote is puzzling Us.

How is [502.42a] the "relevant" Rule in this situation, whereas [502.42b] is not?
[indent]502.42a Offering is a static ability of a card that functions in any zone from which the card can be played. "[Text] offering" means "You may play this card any time you could play an instant by sacrificing a [text] permanent. If you do, the total cost to play this card is reduced by the sacrificed permanent's mana cost."

502.42b [color=black]The permanent is sacrificed at the same time the spell is announced (see rule 409.1a).[/color] The total cost of the spell is reduced by the sacrificed permanent's mana cost (see rule 409.1f).[/indent]
[502.42b] explicitly states when the Permanent is sacrificed, [502.42a] doesn't.


You're trying to push my buttons, aren't you?

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5 years ago  ::  Oct 10, 2008 - 10:45PM #196
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Leftconsin wrote:

In player A's turn The Untap, Upkeep, and Draw steps are skipped. I see nothing special about whats happening here.


Though, nothing you stated is Wrong, We were looking for a response of "The Beginning Phase is skipped in its entirety."

Originally Posted by WizO_Tyrael
* Skipping All the Steps of a Phase

If all the steps in a phase would be skipped, that phase never happens. Skip
directly to the next phase. This would happen if a player controlled Stasis,
Eon Hub, and Necropotence.


So, point you, We guess...

Leftconsin wrote:

You're trying to push my buttons, aren't you?


Not at all. We were simply curious.

We thought that posting [420.42b] was sufficient, because it covers the relevant aspect of Offering that was addressed in the question.

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5 years ago  ::  Oct 11, 2008 - 1:44AM #197
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Well this is a shorter resub of my earlier question.... hope its still not too big...or in too late...

Player A and Player B are playing a casual game without using the official rules.
Player A Has March Of The Machines , Multani's Presence , Liability and Ajani Vengeant . 16 basic lands
Player B Has Mycosynth Lattice , Underworld Dreams , Carnival of Souls and 17 lands,

At the Start of Player b's turn both players are at 20 life.

In player B's Main phase he plays Ajani Goldmane followed by Ashcoat Bear
Player A then plays Dismiss targeting Ashcoat Bear and Flashfreeze on Ashcoat Bear

If all regular rules and card interactions started affecting the game right now, without reversing any actions what would the life totals of the players be...
A) As the stack is resolving?
B) At the end of player B's Turn?
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5 years ago  ::  Oct 11, 2008 - 2:21AM #198
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Can a player choose to trigger Lich's Mirror by conceding?
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5 years ago  ::  Oct 11, 2008 - 2:06PM #199
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I haven't seen anyone label their questions with "day 5" yet, or any other indication that today's stumping has kicked off, so maybe people are having login trouble again? Anyway, here's my final day's questions.
Day 5, Question 1 Show
There was already a question about Aether Web/can't block/blocks as though/etc., but I think this one is different enough.

Player A attacks with Gnat Alley Creeper , Elven Riders enchanted with Flight , and Order of the Golden Cricket (which he will pay for). Player B controls Wind Drake and Chaosphere . Which attacking creatures can he block? If Player A were to have played Gravity Sphere before attacking, then which creatures could Player B have blocked?
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As promised... a licid.

A player controls Grizzly Bears , a Juniper Order Advocate , and a Vesuvan Shapeshifter which is a copy of Enraging Licid . He plays the VS's Licid ability to attach it to Grizzly Bears. At the beginning of his next upkeep, he wants to choose to turn it face down with the VS trigger. He then wants to pay to turn it face-up and copy his Juniper Order Advocate . (If he is not able to do either or both of these things, he does nothing instead.) What are Grizzly Bears' characteristics (abilities, p/t), and where is the Vesuvan Shapeshifter?
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5 years ago  ::  Oct 11, 2008 - 2:08PM #200
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Day 5; Question 1 Show
Player A is at 20 life and controls a Duskworker and a Covetous Dragon .
Player B is at 20 life and controls a Sickle Ripper and a Grim Feast .
Player B also controls an Ornithopter that Player A owns, but it's enchanted by an Enslave that Player B controls.

On Player A's Turn, he plays the second mode of Shriveling Rot and declares the Duskworker and Covetous Dragon as Attacking.
Player B Blocks the Duskworker with his Sickle Ripper and the Covetous Dragon with his Ornithopter.

While Combat Damage is on the Stack, Player B plays Fling , Targeting Player A, sacrificing his Sickle Ripper to pay the additional Cost.

Assuming no other actions are taken by either Player this turn, what are Player A's and B's lifetotal as the turn ends?

Day 5; Question 2 Show
In a 4-Player Free-For-All game, the turn order is A - B - C - D.
Player B controls Words of Waste .

It is Player D's Main Phase and each player has 2 cards in hand, Player D plays Prosperity with an X of 3.
In response, Player B activates his Words of Waste 3 times.

After the Prosperity finished resolving, how many cards does each player have in their hand?
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