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No rise of the hobgoblins in the card choices?

It's not the best token fabric in the early game, but if/when you get to a post wrath situation it becomes one of the best token fabrics you can lay down.

Plus the fact that you can endow somewhere in the region of half (obviously varies depending on what colours you run) your creatures with first strike means you generaly have a good day throughout most of the combat phase.

I'd also wonder what people's opinions are on predator dragon ....
I appreciate the drawbacks.... terror / unmake and the inherent potential for mass card disadvantage. But also appreciate that (unlike the husk) it has evasion, and haste.
And unlike the furystoke (which is probably the closest analog in terms of mana investment/damage produced), it sticks around and keeps giving turn after turn after turn. Just two tokens dropped into this guy will generate 8 damage a turn until the opponent can come up with a kill spell, and I'm sure two tokens aren't that hard to scrape together, even right after a board sweeper.
You probably couldn't run it as more than a 2-of, but the potential for catching your opponent with their pants down and crushing their life total out of nowhere seems too great for this not to get some exploration.

Sith_Mafia wrote:

i like Rhys the Redeemed in these decks

I've actually tested Rhys, since it was in Karthage's original list.

It either get's terrored, or you get mass removal'd the turn after you duplicate the tokens.

Karthage wrote:

I don't mind having rhys terror'd really, since it's about as much as you can hope for, and you can EOT the token doubling, giving you atleast one big swing.

Granted he is of situational use, but he has won me a few games by being a must answer.

Mogg Fanatic is all around better as a 1-drop.
Rhys is really the 6 drop that never was.

momo: like the return to the traditional avatar.

good luck with the list, I have given up, because I had such a hard time beating toast and demi. I'm trying to get a decklist up for states, where both will be highly present. I'll check up occasionally, as I loved tolkens, but...

Best of Luck guys.

tonyadpx wrote:

I'm testing this:

Tokens

--17 x Creatures
4 x *Sprouting Thrinax
4 x *Marsh Flitter
4 x *Nantuko Husk
3 x *Furystoke Giant
2 x *Creakwood Liege
--19 x Spells
3 x *Dragon Fodder
3 x *Gilt-Leaf Ambush
4 x *Bitterblossom
4 x *Torrent of Souls
3 x *Gravepact
2 x *Sarkan Vol
--24 x Lands
4 x *Savage Lands
4 x *Twilight Mire
2 x *Fire-lit Thicket
2 x *Graven Cairns
4 x *Sulfurous Springs
4 x *Llanowar Wastes
4 x *Reflecting Pool

I hate the land-base, but that's probably because I had a strange fear of Magus of the Moon, which is gone now. Also, I've added the Gravepact again to the list. I'm really just testing it right now.

Finally, Torrent of Souls is amazing with Sprouting Thrinax . Sac it to Husk, get the tokens, then play the Torrent targeting the recently sacced Thrinax.

Haven't tested it, but this is what I'm starting with.

I would recommend against both Gilt-Leaf Ambush and Creakwood Liege. While the liege does make and pump tokens, he's also slow and a prime target for removal. I'd definitely try working in Thoughtseize if you could.

EDIT: Forgot to mention that you want to run either Spitebellows or Shriekmaw. Spitebellows because he hits more relevant stuff in today's meta (or at least, what the meta seems to be shaping up to be).