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5 years ago ::
Sep 13, 2008 - 3:50AM
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WRONG
Please don't spread false information to people when you have no idea what you are talking about and you don't cite any sources. The average price is $10.23 and the price has been stable since it came out.
http://www.pileshuffle.com/index.php?ac … item=39611
Magictraders.com begs to differ. Avg of $5.86
so anyway someone proposed this to me today...
My:
4x Fire-lit Thicket
For his:
3x Damnation (Textless Promo)
can I assume that this is a loss on playability but a win on value? Certainly there is a win on fancyness.
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5 years ago ::
Sep 13, 2008 - 6:13AM
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My:
4x Fire-lit Thicket
For his:
3x Damnation (Textless Promo)
can I assume that this is a loss on playability but a win on value? Certainly there is a win on fancyness.
I'd say win on both. Filter Lands are not good. And their price continues to fall.
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5 years ago ::
Sep 13, 2008 - 10:12AM
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Magictraders.com begs to differ. Avg of $5.86
Everyone knows their price guide is complete crap. Use a site that actually takes data from a bunch of sites that sell cards. Unless you think a foil demigod of revenge is only worth $10. Keep using that site so you can keep getting ripped off 
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5 years ago ::
Sep 13, 2008 - 10:13AM
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Magictraders.com begs to differ. Avg of $5.86
so anyway someone proposed this to me today...
My:
4x Fire-lit Thicket
For his:
3x Damnation (Textless Promo)
can I assume that this is a loss on playability but a win on value? Certainly there is a win on fancyness.
Very big win on value here. do it.
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5 years ago ::
Sep 13, 2008 - 6:17PM
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Everyone knows their price guide is complete crap. Use a site that actually takes data from a bunch of sites that sell cards. Unless you think a foil demigod of revenge is only worth $10. Keep using that site so you can keep getting ripped off
The fact is:
They are all crap. Any given price guide can be used to your advantage. When selling, you should go higher than motl to get a good deal. For buying you should aim lower than motl to get a good deal.
When trading, you both can agree to any priceguide you want, but the person who is more confident in their own pricing is the one who will be able to get the better deal. I can take blackborder and rip you off since clearly my 12 crap lorwyn rares are worth your 2 Revised Taiga. I can take motl and get your old money cards with my latest set chase rares because people on ebay are fighting over getting the new stuff. Maybe foil Demigod is only worth $10 - that's fine, as long as you price everything else in relation to that price.
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5 years ago ::
Sep 13, 2008 - 7:33PM
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That's why price guides are useless. You need to look at the places that are actually selling the items to see what they go for. Do you think places would keep prices so high that nobody would buy them? The prices they set the cards at are what people will actually pay for them.
One site however is not a good indicator because they might not have enough customers, they might be catering to a different market of people, or they might have a limited supply. When you take many sites and average the prices, then you get a better idea than just looking at one site or one price guide.
I can make a price guide and put everything at $1. Does that mean al other data out there is useless and mine takes precedent?
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5 years ago ::
Sep 13, 2008 - 8:17PM
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MOTL parses completed Ebay auctions weekly to generate their price.
That's why I like MOTL over blackborder. It says what stuff is actually selling for on a completely open market, where as blackborder gets skewed by stores that think Akroma's worth $30 or some such shenanigans like that.
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5 years ago ::
Sep 13, 2008 - 10:29PM
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- Volunteer Community Lead
- i can haz custom title?
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5 years ago ::
Sep 13, 2008 - 10:50PM
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There is not a "correct" price per se for any single card because businesses will sell cards for a higher margin of profit than the average ebay-Joe just looking to salvage some value from his collection as he turns to other pursuits.
This is the exact reason why ebay based pricing systems are not entirely accurate. The businesses are selling cards to maximize their profits which means they will have the highest price of the card that still receives a lot of buys. The ebay sellers are not getting the optimal price because of the time constraint, last second auction poachers, and their willingness to take a reduced value.
On to the trades.. I see the first 2 in your favor with the last one pretty much a toss up.
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5 years ago ::
Sep 13, 2008 - 11:07PM
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This is the exact reason why ebay based pricing systems are not entirely accurate. The businesses are selling cards to maximize their profits which means they will have the highest price of the card that still receives a lot of buys. The ebay sellers are not getting the optimal price because of the time constraint, last second auction poachers, and their willingness to take a reduced value.
I would argue that Ebay pricing reflects the "real" value of cards as those sellers typically don't have to deal with the constraints of maintaining marginal revenue and marginal cost equilibrium.
Whether those sellers do or do not get the optimal price is moot, because all that matters is whether there is any demand for cards priced at that value, which there is, obviously.
The idea of an Equilibrium Price is great. Just remember that there are other prices, and people willing to pay them.
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