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6 years ago  ::  Apr 24, 2007 - 6:34PM #41
zombiegleemax
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i think it comes into play and then nothing happens....the X is zero i think....im not sure though
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6 years ago  ::  Apr 24, 2007 - 8:30PM #42
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sandshrew16 wrote:

i think it comes into play and then nothing happens....the X is zero i think....im not sure though


Tis true. X spells coming out of suspend have X=0.

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6 years ago  ::  Apr 24, 2007 - 11:05PM #43
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This thread seems more active than any other having to do with my new favorite card from FS . Here is my idea for a decklist with her in it.

23
4 Steam Vents
4 Shivan Reef
3 Hallowed Fountain
2 Sacred Foundry
4 Flagstones of Trokair
3 Nimbus Maze
3 Island

12
4 Jhoira, of the Ghitu
3 Aeon Chronicler
2 Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir
1 Bogardan Hellkite
1 Akroma, Angel of Fury
1 Detritivore

26
4 Izzet Signet
2 Azorius Signet
4 Remand
4 Delay
4 Lightning Helix
4 Bust // Boom
4 Compulsive Research

SB:
4 Spell Snare Control (Or RB(w?) aggro thingy)
3 Wrath of God Aggro
3 Sulfur Elemental Boros (Maybe unnecessary)
3 Pact of Negotiation Dragonstorm
2 Detritivore Control (esp UR Tron)

This versions goal is to get out Jhoira, take advantage of the powerful interaction between her and Chronicler/Detritivore. After suspending a big creature (ie Chronicler, Hellkite, Akroma) you Bust to clear the field then crash in with a huge flier. I kinda forced white in as I love the interaction between Flagstones and Boom but I'm not set on that (thinking Wildfire might be better then. Open for comments and ideas.

PS. I didn't know this foxy wizard from past sets so I don't know if I'm pronouncing her name correctly. Is it "Joy-Ra", "Joe-Era" or what? Thanks :D
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6 years ago  ::  Apr 25, 2007 - 3:11AM #44
Math_mage
Date Joined: Feb 19, 2007
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Flaming Chicken wrote:

This thread seems more active than any other having to do with my new favorite card from FS . Here is my idea for a decklist with her in it.

23
4 Steam Vents
4 Shivan Reef
3 Hallowed Fountain
2 Sacred Foundry
4 Flagstones of Trokair
3 Nimbus Maze
3 Island

12
4 Jhoira, of the Ghitu
3 Aeon Chronicler
2 Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir
1 Bogardan Hellkite
1 Akroma, Angel of Fury
1 Detritivore

26
4 Izzet Signet
2 Azorius Signet
4 Remand
4 Delay
4 Lightning Helix
4 Bust // Boom
4 Compulsive Research

SB:
4 Spell Snare Control (Or RB(w?) aggro thingy)
3 Wrath of God Aggro
3 Sulfur Elemental Boros (Maybe unnecessary)
3 Pact of Negotiation Dragonstorm
2 Detritivore Control (esp UR Tron)

This versions goal is to get out Jhoira, take advantage of the powerful interaction between her and Chronicler/Detritivore. After suspending a big creature (ie Chronicler, Hellkite, Akroma) you Bust to clear the field then crash in with a huge flier. I kinda forced white in as I love the interaction between Flagstones and Boom but I'm not set on that (thinking Wildfire might be better then. Open for comments and ideas.

PS. I didn't know this foxy wizard from past sets so I don't know if I'm pronouncing her name correctly. Is it "Joy-Ra", "Joe-Era" or what? Thanks :D


I've been pronouncing it "Jwa-Ra" myself :D

Your deck could use time manipulation - say, Paradox Haze or Fury Charm , which also gives trample to fat Aeon Chroniclers.

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6 years ago  ::  Apr 25, 2007 - 3:13AM #45
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math_mage wrote:

I've been pronouncing it "Jwa-Ra" myself :D

Your deck could use time manipulation - say, Paradox Haze or Fury Charm , which also gives trample to fat Aeon Chroniclers.


I'm not sure how to pronounce it, but either way, she has a basketball head. From the books, I figured she was more normal, maybe eccentric... not Basketball Head.

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6 years ago  ::  Apr 25, 2007 - 8:23AM #46
Flaming_Chicken
Date Joined: Nov 10, 2005
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Enigmata wrote:

I'm not sure how to pronounce it, but either way, she has a basketball head. From the books, I figured she was more normal, maybe eccentric... not Basketball Head.


Her hair does seem a little bigger than it did in Tinker ...
But this is Future Sight so I guess she grew it out .

I really don't like the time manipulation stuff. Jhoira puts suspend at 4 which is pretty good for the stuff I'm running as it gives you time to get to a couple of signets plus a Bust.

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6 years ago  ::  Apr 25, 2007 - 11:06AM #47
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Snow Jhoira

Lands (23 x )
4 x +[Steam]+[Vents]+[c]" class="linkedCardName" target="_blank">[c]Steam Vents Steam Vents &type=card">
4 x +[Shivan]+[Reef]+[c]" class="linkedCardName" target="_blank">[c]Shivan Reef Shivan Reef &type=card">
4 x +[Scrying]+[Sheets]+[c]" class="linkedCardName" target="_blank">[c]Scrying Sheets Scrying Sheets &type=card">
7 x +[Snow]+[Covered]+[Island]+[c]" class="linkedCardName" target="_blank">[c]Snow-Covered Island Snow-Covered Island &type=card">
4 x +[Snow]+[Covered]+[Mountain]+[c]" class="linkedCardName" target="_blank">[c]Snow-Covered Mountain Snow-Covered Mountain &type=card">
Creatures (15 x )
4 x +[Jhoira]+[of]+[the]+[Ghitu]+[c]" class="linkedCardName" target="_blank">[c]Jhoira of the Ghitu Jhoira of the Ghitu &type=card">
4 x +[Vedalken]+[Aethermage]+[c]" class="linkedCardName" target="_blank">[c]Vedalken Aethermage Vedalken Aethermage &type=card">
3 x +[Teferi,]+[Mage]+[of]+[Zhalfir]+[c]" class="linkedCardName" target="_blank">[c]Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir &type=card">
2 x +[Aeon]+[Chronicler]+[c]" class="linkedCardName" target="_blank">[c]Aeon Chronicler Aeon Chronicler &type=card">
2 x +[Rimefeather]+[Owl]+[c]" class="linkedCardName" target="_blank">[c]Rimefeather Owl Rimefeather Owl &type=card">

Spells (22 x )
4 x +[Remand]+[c]" class="linkedCardName" target="_blank">[c]Remand Remand &type=card">
4 x +[Delay]+[c]" class="linkedCardName" target="_blank">[c]Delay Delay &type=card">
4 x +[Skred]+[c]" class="linkedCardName" target="_blank">[c]Skred Skred &type=card">
4 x +[Compulsive]+[Research]+[c]+[or]+[c]+[Foresee]+[c]" class="linkedCardName" target="_blank">[c]Compulsive Research or Foresee Compulsive Research or Foresee &type=card">
3 x +[Timecrafting]+[c]" class="linkedCardName" target="_blank">[c]Timecrafting Timecrafting &type=card">
3 x +[Fury]+[Charm]+[c]" class="linkedCardName" target="_blank">[c]Fury Charm Fury Charm &type=card">


Quickly threw this together.
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6 years ago  ::  Apr 25, 2007 - 11:46AM #48
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jhoira is very a versatile card and can be used many different ways but i like her in a paradox haze verzion. Here's what i came up with.

Creatures(14)
4x deep-sea kraken
4x jhoira's timebug
3x aeon chronicler
3x jhoira of the ghitu

Spells(24)
4x lotus bloom
4x fury charm
4x paradox haze
4x reality strobe
4x arc blade
4x rite of flame

Lands(22)
4x steam vents
4x shivan reef
8x island
6x mountain

Sideboard(15)
4x detritivore
3x teferi, mage of zhalfir
4x trickbind
4x rift elemental

don't need to rely on jhoira has much effective when multiple arc blades and reality strobes r suspended
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6 years ago  ::  Apr 25, 2007 - 11:51AM #49
Kagure
Date Joined: Mar 27, 2007
Posts: 117

DarkAvatar1018 wrote:

I too am a big fan of Warp World, but I think a deck built around it needs to use it effectively every game. I think only 5 creatures that can kill your opponent the same turn you play WW is too few and far between. This has the potential of helping your opponent more than yourself when you play WW. I like the idea though.

Jhoira could very possibly be a 3-color deck. I think R/U/B or R/U/W would be best, but R/U/G could be possible too.

Chronozoa seems good in Haze decks, but I've found that the lack of haste hurts a lot. With one Haze out, 'Zoa takes 2 turns to double itself, which gives your opponent a lot of chances to get rid of it. With 2 Hazes, you double your 'Zoas every turn, but they can never attack. So you end up with infinite blockers until you or someone else destroys one of your Hazes. And a single resolved Wrath shuts you down completely.


I'm surprised no one has mentioned this, but U/R Panda Deck with Chronozoa and Paradox Haze .

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6 years ago  ::  Apr 25, 2007 - 1:39PM #50
JustN1188
Date Joined: Aug 9, 2005
Posts: 44
Here it is UR Jhoira

Lands-23
4 Steam Vents
4 Shivan Reef
4 Desert
5 Island
3 Mountain
1 Watery Grave
1 Blood Crypt
1 Urza's Factory

Creatures-12
3 Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir
2 Jhoira of the Ghitu
2 Aeon Chronicler
2 Vedalken Aethermage
1 Detritivore
1 Greater Gargadon
1 Venser, Shaper Savant

Spells-26
4 Think Twice
4 Remand
4 Rune Snag
3 Mystical Teachings
3 Mana Leak
2 Rewind
2 Timecrafting
1 Trickbind
1 Repeal
1 Word of Seizing

SB:
4 Pyroclasm
3 Trickbind
3 Spell Snare
2 Sulfur Elemental
1 Detritivore
1 Wipe Away

Now card explainations.
I choose to model this after dranlu, why because Teferi/Teachings is the most effective tutor out there. 2 Jhoira can easy be pulled out from anywhere. Aeons are for draw, and Gargadon i use because it is a 9/7 that fits the deck ( hello). Vore for control, and Vensir is to keep going if you run out of steam late-game.

Word of Seizing is just fun, being able to take their creatures like that is hilarious. Timecrafting>Fury Charm here, because you can add counters to aeon and keep a draw engine going, or add some counters to vore to keep destruction going.

SB : Changes to more aggro hoser, The Snares are for counter wars, and the wipe away is for dranlu.

try it. Im working on a Tron version for later, and ill do a Jhoira's Haze later.
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