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dyzzy wrote:

Why do you need Black removal for FoD, Stillmoon, or Finks? You have burns

Black removal is needed for BFT. Without it, she is a pain.

Guys. Is my RW list so bad that no one even wants to tell me how much it sucks?

Maybe it is that with Figure / Fanatic / Commander and Reveillark the list looks closer to Boat brew than to RDW, and in that sense people has been claiming that creature heavy lists work better than burn - heavy ones. Still, I guess Path to exile does a better job of getting rid or BFT than Terror because they can't bring her back. If you have made the white splash, why don't you include something like Wispmare to deal with enchantments such as Story circle or Runed Halo?

I have the itch to try a R / W list using shamans with Rage forger and Reveillark to keep them coming back. Maybe I post a list later.

Anubuss wrote:

I'm guessing they all see it like I do, which is more of like Boat Brew then RDW. Yes we see all the burn, but it's hard not to think Boat Brew when Lark is involved, and I for one have seen Boat Brew lists that were burn heavy. I personaly think once you start talking about a R/W deck with Lark, possibly Ajani V, SGC, FoD, and Fanatic; you're just too much in Boat Brews turf then RDW.

javert wrote:

Maybe it is that with Figure / Fanatic / Commander and Reveillark the list looks closer to Boat brew than to RDW, and in that sense people has been claiming that creature heavy lists work better than burn - heavy ones. Still, I guess Path to exile does a better job of getting rid or BFT than Terror because they can't bring her back. If you have made the white splash, why don't you include something like Wispmare to deal with enchantments such as Story circle or Runed Halo?

Yeah I was thinking the same thing too. I was wondering whether I should've posted the list here or in the Boat Brew thread and ended up choosing here. Seems like Boat Brew thread would've been better.

SGTDfromMA wrote:

I"ve been thinking of doing a "SgtD's guide to red in CON," if anyone is interested. My only authority is playing red for over a decade and having a decent rating . . .oh, and I spank monkey ass with RDW on a weekly basis (and I live in the land of Dougherty and Kastle and other sundry smart people so I don't face a lot of scrubs--FYI, rob or Darwin would spank my ass with a belt).

I was about to suggest you do up the new thread, cause I'm obviously terribad at maintaining this one


If I were to run a RDW variant now, I'd probably pull something like this:

7 mountain
4 auntie's hovel
4 graven cairns
4 sulfurous springs
4 ghitu encampment

4 figure of destiny
4 mogg fanatic
4 hellspark elemental
4 ashenmoor gouger
4 boggart ram-gang
4 shambling remains
3 siege-gang commander

4 incinerate
4 flame javelin
2 banefire

//sb
4 demigod of revenge
3 volcanic fallout
3 everlasting torment
3 blightning
2 unwilling recruit

Yes, black only for shambling remains (and blightning out of the side), only because I think he's the sickness right now. I could be completely wrong Demigod in the side because he's still the nuts in some matchups. Dropped to 23 lands because I always seemed to get mana flooded at 24+, and even at times when I was running 12onedrops.dec with 22. Splitting the difference seems good when you want to power up banefire/sgc/demigod postboard and still keep your curve aggressive. SB leaves something to be desired. . . but it works I guess?

Otherwise, as far as mono red goes, Adam_Larson's list looks really strong, even if I'd fit unwilling recruit somewhere in there over something. That card arguably won me more games than demigod.