Haven't really had anything new recently to report myself recently. Been getting back onto the FP for a few months now, and the things I've been noticing are:
1. Thanks to Ghostly Flicker shenanigans, I realise many players aren't aware of the actual rule for illegal targets (that is, all a spells targets must be illegal to make it fizzle). 2. In casual, apparently counters are the devil. Never mind that it's just blue's removal and can't do jack after a spell resolves - if you're playing blue, you're evil. Maybe people just want to be allowed to set up any synergy/combo they want. 3. Power levels still fluctuate wildly. You go from a player running stuff like Pacifism and Goldenglow Moth to someone running stock-standard old school affinity. Then onto someone playing Innistrad block, followed by someone who didn't read the memo on moxen .
It's hard to fault anyone on point 3 (unless they've included stupidly powerful vintage only cards or are running a deck that's actually competitive in some format), but it can make your own deck selection awkward... make a deck that has good cards and is synergistic, you get hated on for the power difference. Make a jankier deck to try out something quirky, and you run into the synergistic decks that just stomp you. Kind of makes me want to get back into standard/modern so that power level variance isn't nearly as swingy. ^^
I'm all about super-control in MTG. If you're able to stop my shenanigans, then there aren't enough shenanigans.
Yeah power-level varies a lot on the Forbidden. What I hate most is when he plays a really crappy deck and you're playing a synergistic one, and when you offer to chagne deck, he does instead and gets out Jund or Faeries and stomps you. Good job, man.
I had that game where he used a Black Lotus, two mox and a original dual to power out a fourth turn Felidar Sovereign . That was hilarious.
Yeah... Until next game, where it'll be right back.
Seriously, there's no way to deal with Rancor in any format. It should be banned, except Gleemax is a lobbyist for the Rancor party, so that'll never happen.
You can't ban rancor, it just returns to your deck.
You might want to actually talk to the Flavor & Storyline Board people... since, you know, our whole reason for playing Magic is the flavor. I'm willing to bet you'll get a lot more interest there than in General.
Indeed, both posters down there would be thrilled.
When talks about banning Jace first started, I was thinking that I would see him banned come June 20th. But as I think more about it, I don't really think that Jace is the problem anymore. Sure his power level leaves very little to the imagination (opening Jace is like opening a refrigerator box with a naked girl on the inside), and sure his price does have a strong impact on what players choose to play (playing Jace is like being intimate with a woman and she doesn't charge you in the morning), but it is not the source of all the problems in Standard.
How do people think saving room to print more abilities on cards is dumbing down the game?
Do you really think, say, Akroma would ever be printed if she said, "Akroma can block by creatures with this ability and cannot be blocked by creatures without this ability. If a creature without this ability would deal combat damage by Akroma would be destroyed, prevent all combat damage that creature would deal to Akroma this combat. Attacking does not cause Akroma to tap. If Akroma is blocked and deals lethal damage, it deals the remainder of its damage to the defending player. Akroma may attack and use abilities that require tapping in the casting cost the turn it enters the battlefield. Akroma cannot be damaged, enchanted, equipped, blocked or targeted by black or red sources" rather than her "dumbed down" wording she has? No freaking way. Keywording and shorthand allows them to make complicated cards easy to play with, allowing them to be printed in the first place.
1. cast frankie peanuts 2. ask opponent "will you concede the game this turn"? if they say yes, you win; if they say no, play a staying power 3. subsequently ask "will you attack this turn"? and "will you cast a spell this turn"? (using a Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir for the second question if necessary) to ensure they can't disrupt the combo 4. donate them a platinum angel 5. play a mox lotus and braingeyser them for every card in their library. play an opalescence and donate them a glorious anthem and a blacker lotus , then play enchanted evening . play and activate a mindslaver and then donate them a fastbond and the mox lotus (returning one of the donates to your hand with eternal witness or whatever) 6. during their turn, play every permanent in their hand (playing lands with fastbond) then (as yourself) cast mirrorweave on the blacker lotus, so every permanent becomes a copy of it. proceed to tear up every card they control, and hopefully do it before they notice that they aren't bound by staying power's ability anymore and can concede
Dark Ritual being overpowered is determined more by what is done with it than the card itself.
True, but the fact that it enables so many ridiculous things is pretty telling. It's like, sure I can use a shotgun as a bludgeoning instrument, but that doesn't make it not a shotgun.
Shortly before Serra died, she transferred her spark into an angel whose full name was Asha Avacyn Bolas. Her dragon father groomed her for her positions in Alara and Innistrad, and she's also been getting help from her uncle Ugin in the form of Urza, who was resurrected as Marit Lage to be the avatar as which she projects herself into material realms. Grieslbrand is a split personality who sometimes wanders the planes disguised as a human woman named Liliana Vess.
Everyone's life would be easier if players would, instead of coming to the 'net for help with a deck, just netdeck and be done with it. And I'm not talking about some Top 8 lists, for the Casualists, too, can benefit from netdecking. I've netdecked plenty of decks from the Casual Play forums from users such as Mown, Raedien, Floopfoot, and a few others. I snatched straight the heck out of my web browser. Yes, people, your original idea fell victim to a savage netdecker. You have been assimiliated.
Suppose I wanted a Zombie deck. Why on earth would I spend time searching Gatherer for a decent list of Zombie cards when Raedien already did it for me? Taking time to be creative or waiting on people on the forums to tell you why your deck sucks or 'go to Casual forums' is a disasterous waste of time (to me).
That being said, Magic was ruined back in Alpha when they added all that rules and cards [Debutantes avert your eyes]. My friends and I still like playing it the "pure" way (Basically we go into the woods and hit eachother with wiffle bats while shouting made up obscenities. You know, the way Garfield wanted it to be played).
Don't worry about it. I've come up with a list of changes to fix EDH.
-First off, there's no commander. -The minimum deck size is 60 cards, and each deck can have up to four of each card, save basic lands and relentless rats. Also decks have no color identity. -Starting life total is 20.
Here's a clever play you can try yourself: -Convince friend to run relentless rats.dec in legacy tournament -Get a deck with lots of mill, yixlid jailer, and humility -Drop humility and jailer, wait for him to dump his hand, mill him out -All his rats now have no abilities. Call a judge because he's playing an illegal deck with more than 4 of a single card. -Get him/her banned from competitive magic play
L, is for the leather gloves you weaaaar. O, is for the organs that guy could spaaaare. V, is very very, extraordinay. E, is for every vagrant i butchered in a wine cellar befooooore.
The outer layer of the Magic: the Gathering box, the carton, or crust, is fairly thin and light, and contains largely aluminosilcates.
Within that lies the middle layer, consisting of the familiar booster pack. Although solid, the booster packs' high temperatures allow them to acutally move around within the booster box. This flow, sometimes called convection, is cited by frustrated box mappers as one of WOTC's most genious uses of thermodynamics since the Ravnica block.
No one knows what lies at the core of the booster box, but scientists theorize that it must be especially dense in order to make up for the large amount of fluff distributed amongst the booster packs.
I imagine [Ajani 3's] second ability involves him hurling the creature at your opponent Brion Stoutarm style, then the guy is just like "Okay, that may have worked, but don't- GOD DAMN IT!" as he does it again because cats don't give a **** :33.
Its like that one time Elves broke out in a field of Jund. Elves became a resurgent hit, then died off again once Jund adapted to the rest of the field of G/W that it required mass removal that inherently pooped on Elves too.
Submit to the menace. Delver can, and will blot out the sun.
"I remember my days as a youth at Tolarian Academy ." "Wow, small multiverse, I actually went there too." "WAIT, DON'T- Well ****, there's $200,000 in student loans well spent."
And flavor goes out the window when you cast a second copy of a planeswalker right after the first one dies, so...
"Hey Nissa, I need a favor." "You just asked me for a 'favor' like thirty seconds ago, and it turned out to be having Sarkhan Transmogrify my only follower into a dragon like 5 times -which dickery aside also violates some laws of causality - and then you let me get beaten over the head by that hedron crab." "...I'll give you " "...Well all right then."
GM, I don't think Dill is better than you. I KNOW it. Even if he wakes up every morning, clubs a baby seal, steals all the TV remotes from within a block's radius of his house and then robs hungry orphans of their food he'd be better than you, for the simple reason that he learns from his mistakes.
What would they have to fight about? Like, all I can think of now is Gideon going "Hey, long-ears! I'm gathering a group of 'Walkers together to fight some tentacle monsters.....you want in?" and Tamiyo going "Ew! Hentai no bakka Gideon-desu desu!" and flying away.
I open 4 packs just to be on the safe side. Not only do I get more cards than everyone else, but I also get to spend the rest of the night off. Win Win.
MaRo has a thing for people opening boosters with bad cards. But since he can only get so many bad cards printed in each set, he has found a devious way of getting more bad cards into circulation: He makes entire print sheets with just bad rares, then puts them onto the assembly line. He proceeds to wring his hands and twirl his evil mustache that he grew for twirling purposes as a lightning bolt strikes in the background. Afterwards, he goes to make sure that the good cards are only opened by everyone's friends, and that we all only get to open bad cards. He does this by memorising each booster, than switching them around accordingly. Whenever someone complains about a card, he immediately jumps out from behind a chair to yell "WELL, IT'S NOT FOR YOU!" before merging back into the shadows in order to devise new ways in which he can screw over players, then claim that he has valid reasons for doing so.
Mark Rosewater is sitting in a seemingly innocuous cable TV van, outside of Bankaimastery's house. Sitting nearby are two hardened criminal hackers, fresh out of prison, and filled with resentment at their lack of physical fitness. "Have you managed to hack his brainwaves yet? The set deadline's coming up fast." "We're almost through. It should be coming up on the screen any second." The hacker presses a button, and Kevin's thoughts flash onto the screen. Mark and the hackers stare in amazement at the sheer beauty, the elegance, and the raw truth of what they see. It's like the ending to 2001: A Space Odyssey. Brilliant light shines across the screen, the truth of existence is made clear to them, and they despair at their own foolishness, their own ignorance, their own inadequacy. And then they steal his ideas. As they return back to R&D, Mark sneers at a haggard old man chained to a cast-iron sphere. The man looks up from his laborious task of breaking rocks in the dungeon of Wizards of the Coast headquarters, and asks a question: "Kevin, my greatest student. He - he's all right, isn't he? You didn't hurt him?" Mark deals him a weighty blow with his boot. "Know your place, Richard. Get back to work."
I'm only opposed to it because it bears so little relation to how people actually play the game. The example of Miracles is actually a much better one then the Clone example I was trying to use.
From the game's perspective, the card can move instantly from face down in the library to revealed in the hand and that's fine for the rules. But in real life, we can't actually do that, so the card spends a good bit of time in locations that are neither where that player's library is nor where that player's hand is. And that's fine for real life. What I don't want is the disconnect to be explicitly codified. Along the lines of
183664.697 A game of Magic as laid out by these rules exists only as a pure Platonic ideal, utterly unrealizable by fallible mortals limited by the confines of physicality and the ravages of evil and sin.
183664.698 The cake is a lie, too.
I know it's true, but I don't want the rules to actually straight-up tell me that.
Pfft this cant be serious can it? If it is please delete your account OP. Its not even close to ban worthy, considering what JTMS and stoneforge had to accomplish to get banned i see the WotC selling magic to aquire Pokemon before that ever happens.
I'm trying to imagine sorin markov as a gym leader in one of those pokemon games which you have to beat him to get his badge... somehow I imagine that he would stab you in the chest with his sword before giving you the badge, even if you beat his pokemon....
Personally, I'd be fine with tea time but then I'm not gonna waste the mana summoning Emrakul, the Aeons Torn . He always takes all the sugar, drinks the whole pot of Earl Grey and doesn't even say thank you. SO. RUDE.
Break the Card is a regular thread in the Cards and Combo Forum. Quite simply, the participants are given a Johnnystatic card (e.g. Xenograft ) and are asked to build a deck around it. The winner and honorable mentions are sigged below. Get brewing!
This week's Break the Card was based around Xenograft . Thread : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/27681049/Break_the_card_:_Xenograft?pg=1
Winner : Axterix with his Vampdrazi deck. Finalist : Vektor480 with his Ally/Golem/Plant deck. Honorable mentions : Zammm for the Turntimber Ranger combo and TinGorilla for suggesting Sarkhan the Mad .
Here's the link to the Mindlock Orb contest : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/27697565/Break_the_Card_:_Mindlock_Orb?sdb=1&pg=last#497536269
Here's the link to Break the Card : Bludgeon Brawl : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/27715169/Break_the_Card_:_Bludgeon_Brawl?sdb=1&pg=last#498208797
Winner : Vektor and his Grab the World deck. Finalist : Crandor with his Awesome Aliteration deck. Honorable mentions : RP Jesus with his Wat deck and Zix200 with his Signet Renewal deck.
This week was Followed Footsteps : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/27748677/Break_the_Card_:_Followed_Footsteps?pg=1
Winner : Tevish_Szat with his Exponential Growth deck. Honorable mentions : Zix with his Carbon Copies deck and Escef with his Fungus of Speed and Time deck.
This week's card was Jace's Archivist : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/28063377/Break_the_Card_:_Jaces_Archivist.
Finalists : Jentaru with his "Consecration of the Draw" deck and HereticSmitty with his "ADHD: The deck" deck. Winner : JaxsonBateman with his "The Archives Are Endless!" deck.
Xevil points from his Cursed Totem to captainsniffles's Arcanis the Omnipotent captainsniffles draws 3 card(s). Xevil: you can't use their abilities captainsniffles taps Azami, Lady of Scrolls . Xevil points from his Cursed Totem to captainsniffles's Azami, Lady of Scrolls . captainsniffles: azamis ability is static Xevil: no it has a : in the ability it's activated captainsniffles has left the game.
2. In casual, apparently counters are the devil. Never mind that it's just blue's removal and can't do jack after a spell resolves - if you're playing blue, you're evil. Maybe people just want to be allowed to set up any synergy/combo they want.
I remain convinced that the people who hate counterspells are also the ones who complain about Proggy and Winged Dragon of Ra ruining Magic.
Zammm = Batman. Bronies unite. "I'd call you a genius, but I'm in the room." It's my sig in a boxShow
Funny story: InQuest Magazine (I think it was InQuest) had an oversized Chaos Orb which I totally rooked someone into allowing into a (non-sanctioned) game. I had a proxy card that was a Mountain with "Chaos Orb" written on it. When I played it, my opponent cried foul:
Him: "WTF? a Proxy? no-one said anything about Proxies. Do you even own an actual Chaos Orb?" Me: "Yes, but I thought it would be better to use a Proxy." Him: "No way. If you're going to put a Chaos Orb in your deck you have to use your actual Chaos Orb." Me: "*Sigh*. Okay."
I pulled out this huge Chaos Orb and placed it on the table. He tried to cry foul again but everyone else said he insisted I use my actual Chaos Orb and that was my actual Chaos Orb. I used it, flipped it and wiped most of his board.
Unsurprisingly, that only worked once and only because everyone present thought it was hilarious.
My DM on Battleminds:
no, see i can kill defenders, but 8 consecutive crits on a battlemind, eh walk it off.
Hi guys! So, I'm a sort of returning player to Magic. I say sort of because as a child I had two main TCG's I liked. Yu-Gi-Oh, and Pokemon. Some of my friends branched off in to Magic, and I bought two pre-made decks just to kind of fit in. Like I said, Yu-Gi-Oh and Pokemon were what I really knew how to play. I have a extensive knowledge of deck building in those two TCG's. However, as far as Magic is concerned, I only ever used those two pre made decks. I know how the game is played, and I know general things, but now I want to get in the game for real. I want to begin playing it as a regular. My question is, are all cards ever released from the time of the inception of this game until present day fair game in a deck? Or are there special rules? Are some cards forbidden or restricted? Thanks guys, and I will gladly accept ANY help lol.
I have the same problem with women.
Is this my new ego sig? Yes it is, other BarryShow
And that's why you should never, ever call RP Jesus on being a troll, because then everyone else playing along gets outed, too, and the thread goes back to being boring.
See, this is why RPJesus should be in charge of the storyline. The novel line would never have been cancelled if he had been running the show. Specifically the Slobad and Geth's Head talkshow he just described.
Not only was that an obligatory joke, it was an on-topic post that still managed to be off-topic due to thread derailment. RP Jesus does it again folks.
It was wonderful. Us Johnnies had a field day. That Timmy with the Grizzly bears would actually have to think about swinging into your Mogg Fanatic , giving you time to set up your silly combo . Nowadays it's all DERPSWING! with thier blue jeans and their MP3 players and their EM EM OH AR PEE JEES and their "Dewmocracy" and their children's card games and their Jersey Shores and their Tattooed Tenaged Vampire Hunters from Beverly Hills
Seriously, that was amazing. I laughed my *ss off. Made my day, and I just woke up.
ArtVenn You're still one of my favorite people... just sayin'.
You... You... Evil something... I actualy made the damn char once I saw the poster...
Now you made me see it again and I gained resolve to put it into my campaign. Shell be high standing oficial of Cyrix order. Uterly mad and only slightly evil.
And it'll be bad. Evil even. And ill blame you and Lizard for it :P.
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...Am I the only one that thinks this is reaching the point of downright Kafkaesque insanity?
I condone the use of the word Kafkaesque. However, I'm presentely ambivalent. I mean, that can't be serious, right? We're April 1st, right? They didn't mod RPJesus for off-topic discussion when the WHOLE THREAD IS OFF-TOPIC, right?
Save or die. If you disagree with this, you're wrong (Not because of any points or arguements that have been made, but I just rolled a d20 for you and got a 1, so you lose).
HOW DID I NOT KNOW ABOUT THE BEAR PRODUCING WORDS OF WILDING?! WHAT IS WRONG WITH ME?!
That's what RPJesus tends to do. That's why I don't think he's a real person, but some Magic Card Archive Server sort of machine, that is programmed to react to other posters' comments with obscure cards that do in fact exist, but somehow missed by even the most experienced Magic players.
And then come up with strange combos with said cards. All of that is impossible for a normal human to do given the amount of time he does it and how often he does it.
He/It got me with Light of Sanction , which prompted me to go to RQ&A to try and find if it was even possible to do combat damage to a creature I control (in light that Mark of Asylum exists).
Blue players get all the overpowerered cards like JTMS. I think it's time that wizards gave something to people who remember what magic is really about: creatures.
Initially yes, Wizards was married to blue. However, about a decade ago they had a nasty divorce, and a few years after that they began courting the attention of Green. Then in Worldwake they had a nasty affair with their ex, but as of Innistrad , things seem to have gotten back on track, and Wizards has even proposed .
You are my favorite. Yes you. And moments like this make it so. Thank you RPJesus for just being you.
Xevil points from his Cursed Totem to captainsniffles's Arcanis the Omnipotent captainsniffles draws 3 card(s). Xevil: you can't use their abilities captainsniffles taps Azami, Lady of Scrolls . Xevil points from his Cursed Totem to captainsniffles's Azami, Lady of Scrolls . captainsniffles: azamis ability is static Xevil: no it has a : in the ability it's activated captainsniffles has left the game.
Yup
I find it hilarious that he even draw three cards off Arcanis.
Yeah... Until next game, where it'll be right back.
Seriously, there's no way to deal with Rancor in any format. It should be banned, except Gleemax is a lobbyist for the Rancor party, so that'll never happen.
You can't ban rancor, it just returns to your deck.
You might want to actually talk to the Flavor & Storyline Board people... since, you know, our whole reason for playing Magic is the flavor. I'm willing to bet you'll get a lot more interest there than in General.
Indeed, both posters down there would be thrilled.
When talks about banning Jace first started, I was thinking that I would see him banned come June 20th. But as I think more about it, I don't really think that Jace is the problem anymore. Sure his power level leaves very little to the imagination (opening Jace is like opening a refrigerator box with a naked girl on the inside), and sure his price does have a strong impact on what players choose to play (playing Jace is like being intimate with a woman and she doesn't charge you in the morning), but it is not the source of all the problems in Standard.
How do people think saving room to print more abilities on cards is dumbing down the game?
Do you really think, say, Akroma would ever be printed if she said, "Akroma can block by creatures with this ability and cannot be blocked by creatures without this ability. If a creature without this ability would deal combat damage by Akroma would be destroyed, prevent all combat damage that creature would deal to Akroma this combat. Attacking does not cause Akroma to tap. If Akroma is blocked and deals lethal damage, it deals the remainder of its damage to the defending player. Akroma may attack and use abilities that require tapping in the casting cost the turn it enters the battlefield. Akroma cannot be damaged, enchanted, equipped, blocked or targeted by black or red sources" rather than her "dumbed down" wording she has? No freaking way. Keywording and shorthand allows them to make complicated cards easy to play with, allowing them to be printed in the first place.
1. cast frankie peanuts 2. ask opponent "will you concede the game this turn"? if they say yes, you win; if they say no, play a staying power 3. subsequently ask "will you attack this turn"? and "will you cast a spell this turn"? (using a Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir for the second question if necessary) to ensure they can't disrupt the combo 4. donate them a platinum angel 5. play a mox lotus and braingeyser them for every card in their library. play an opalescence and donate them a glorious anthem and a blacker lotus , then play enchanted evening . play and activate a mindslaver and then donate them a fastbond and the mox lotus (returning one of the donates to your hand with eternal witness or whatever) 6. during their turn, play every permanent in their hand (playing lands with fastbond) then (as yourself) cast mirrorweave on the blacker lotus, so every permanent becomes a copy of it. proceed to tear up every card they control, and hopefully do it before they notice that they aren't bound by staying power's ability anymore and can concede
Dark Ritual being overpowered is determined more by what is done with it than the card itself.
True, but the fact that it enables so many ridiculous things is pretty telling. It's like, sure I can use a shotgun as a bludgeoning instrument, but that doesn't make it not a shotgun.
Shortly before Serra died, she transferred her spark into an angel whose full name was Asha Avacyn Bolas. Her dragon father groomed her for her positions in Alara and Innistrad, and she's also been getting help from her uncle Ugin in the form of Urza, who was resurrected as Marit Lage to be the avatar as which she projects herself into material realms. Grieslbrand is a split personality who sometimes wanders the planes disguised as a human woman named Liliana Vess.
Everyone's life would be easier if players would, instead of coming to the 'net for help with a deck, just netdeck and be done with it. And I'm not talking about some Top 8 lists, for the Casualists, too, can benefit from netdecking. I've netdecked plenty of decks from the Casual Play forums from users such as Mown, Raedien, Floopfoot, and a few others. I snatched straight the heck out of my web browser. Yes, people, your original idea fell victim to a savage netdecker. You have been assimiliated.
Suppose I wanted a Zombie deck. Why on earth would I spend time searching Gatherer for a decent list of Zombie cards when Raedien already did it for me? Taking time to be creative or waiting on people on the forums to tell you why your deck sucks or 'go to Casual forums' is a disasterous waste of time (to me).
That being said, Magic was ruined back in Alpha when they added all that rules and cards [Debutantes avert your eyes]. My friends and I still like playing it the "pure" way (Basically we go into the woods and hit eachother with wiffle bats while shouting made up obscenities. You know, the way Garfield wanted it to be played).
Don't worry about it. I've come up with a list of changes to fix EDH.
-First off, there's no commander. -The minimum deck size is 60 cards, and each deck can have up to four of each card, save basic lands and relentless rats. Also decks have no color identity. -Starting life total is 20.
Here's a clever play you can try yourself: -Convince friend to run relentless rats.dec in legacy tournament -Get a deck with lots of mill, yixlid jailer, and humility -Drop humility and jailer, wait for him to dump his hand, mill him out -All his rats now have no abilities. Call a judge because he's playing an illegal deck with more than 4 of a single card. -Get him/her banned from competitive magic play
L, is for the leather gloves you weaaaar. O, is for the organs that guy could spaaaare. V, is very very, extraordinay. E, is for every vagrant i butchered in a wine cellar befooooore.
The outer layer of the Magic: the Gathering box, the carton, or crust, is fairly thin and light, and contains largely aluminosilcates.
Within that lies the middle layer, consisting of the familiar booster pack. Although solid, the booster packs' high temperatures allow them to acutally move around within the booster box. This flow, sometimes called convection, is cited by frustrated box mappers as one of WOTC's most genious uses of thermodynamics since the Ravnica block.
No one knows what lies at the core of the booster box, but scientists theorize that it must be especially dense in order to make up for the large amount of fluff distributed amongst the booster packs.
I imagine [Ajani 3's] second ability involves him hurling the creature at your opponent Brion Stoutarm style, then the guy is just like "Okay, that may have worked, but don't- GOD DAMN IT!" as he does it again because cats don't give a **** :33.
Its like that one time Elves broke out in a field of Jund. Elves became a resurgent hit, then died off again once Jund adapted to the rest of the field of G/W that it required mass removal that inherently pooped on Elves too.
Submit to the menace. Delver can, and will blot out the sun.
"I remember my days as a youth at Tolarian Academy ." "Wow, small multiverse, I actually went there too." "WAIT, DON'T- Well ****, there's $200,000 in student loans well spent."
And flavor goes out the window when you cast a second copy of a planeswalker right after the first one dies, so...
"Hey Nissa, I need a favor." "You just asked me for a 'favor' like thirty seconds ago, and it turned out to be having Sarkhan Transmogrify my only follower into a dragon like 5 times -which dickery aside also violates some laws of causality - and then you let me get beaten over the head by that hedron crab." "...I'll give you " "...Well all right then."
GM, I don't think Dill is better than you. I KNOW it. Even if he wakes up every morning, clubs a baby seal, steals all the TV remotes from within a block's radius of his house and then robs hungry orphans of their food he'd be better than you, for the simple reason that he learns from his mistakes.
What would they have to fight about? Like, all I can think of now is Gideon going "Hey, long-ears! I'm gathering a group of 'Walkers together to fight some tentacle monsters.....you want in?" and Tamiyo going "Ew! Hentai no bakka Gideon-desu desu!" and flying away.
I open 4 packs just to be on the safe side. Not only do I get more cards than everyone else, but I also get to spend the rest of the night off. Win Win.
MaRo has a thing for people opening boosters with bad cards. But since he can only get so many bad cards printed in each set, he has found a devious way of getting more bad cards into circulation: He makes entire print sheets with just bad rares, then puts them onto the assembly line. He proceeds to wring his hands and twirl his evil mustache that he grew for twirling purposes as a lightning bolt strikes in the background. Afterwards, he goes to make sure that the good cards are only opened by everyone's friends, and that we all only get to open bad cards. He does this by memorising each booster, than switching them around accordingly. Whenever someone complains about a card, he immediately jumps out from behind a chair to yell "WELL, IT'S NOT FOR YOU!" before merging back into the shadows in order to devise new ways in which he can screw over players, then claim that he has valid reasons for doing so.
Mark Rosewater is sitting in a seemingly innocuous cable TV van, outside of Bankaimastery's house. Sitting nearby are two hardened criminal hackers, fresh out of prison, and filled with resentment at their lack of physical fitness. "Have you managed to hack his brainwaves yet? The set deadline's coming up fast." "We're almost through. It should be coming up on the screen any second." The hacker presses a button, and Kevin's thoughts flash onto the screen. Mark and the hackers stare in amazement at the sheer beauty, the elegance, and the raw truth of what they see. It's like the ending to 2001: A Space Odyssey. Brilliant light shines across the screen, the truth of existence is made clear to them, and they despair at their own foolishness, their own ignorance, their own inadequacy. And then they steal his ideas. As they return back to R&D, Mark sneers at a haggard old man chained to a cast-iron sphere. The man looks up from his laborious task of breaking rocks in the dungeon of Wizards of the Coast headquarters, and asks a question: "Kevin, my greatest student. He - he's all right, isn't he? You didn't hurt him?" Mark deals him a weighty blow with his boot. "Know your place, Richard. Get back to work."
I'm only opposed to it because it bears so little relation to how people actually play the game. The example of Miracles is actually a much better one then the Clone example I was trying to use.
From the game's perspective, the card can move instantly from face down in the library to revealed in the hand and that's fine for the rules. But in real life, we can't actually do that, so the card spends a good bit of time in locations that are neither where that player's library is nor where that player's hand is. And that's fine for real life. What I don't want is the disconnect to be explicitly codified. Along the lines of
183664.697 A game of Magic as laid out by these rules exists only as a pure Platonic ideal, utterly unrealizable by fallible mortals limited by the confines of physicality and the ravages of evil and sin.
183664.698 The cake is a lie, too.
I know it's true, but I don't want the rules to actually straight-up tell me that.
Pfft this cant be serious can it? If it is please delete your account OP. Its not even close to ban worthy, considering what JTMS and stoneforge had to accomplish to get banned i see the WotC selling magic to aquire Pokemon before that ever happens.
I'm trying to imagine sorin markov as a gym leader in one of those pokemon games which you have to beat him to get his badge... somehow I imagine that he would stab you in the chest with his sword before giving you the badge, even if you beat his pokemon....
Personally, I'd be fine with tea time but then I'm not gonna waste the mana summoning Emrakul, the Aeons Torn . He always takes all the sugar, drinks the whole pot of Earl Grey and doesn't even say thank you. SO. RUDE.
Break the Card is a regular thread in the Cards and Combo Forum. Quite simply, the participants are given a Johnnystatic card (e.g. Xenograft ) and are asked to build a deck around it. The winner and honorable mentions are sigged below. Get brewing!
This week's Break the Card was based around Xenograft . Thread : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/27681049/Break_the_card_:_Xenograft?pg=1
Winner : Axterix with his Vampdrazi deck. Finalist : Vektor480 with his Ally/Golem/Plant deck. Honorable mentions : Zammm for the Turntimber Ranger combo and TinGorilla for suggesting Sarkhan the Mad .
Here's the link to the Mindlock Orb contest : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/27697565/Break_the_Card_:_Mindlock_Orb?sdb=1&pg=last#497536269
Here's the link to Break the Card : Bludgeon Brawl : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/27715169/Break_the_Card_:_Bludgeon_Brawl?sdb=1&pg=last#498208797
Winner : Vektor and his Grab the World deck. Finalist : Crandor with his Awesome Aliteration deck. Honorable mentions : RP Jesus with his Wat deck and Zix200 with his Signet Renewal deck.
This week was Followed Footsteps : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/27748677/Break_the_Card_:_Followed_Footsteps?pg=1
Winner : Tevish_Szat with his Exponential Growth deck. Honorable mentions : Zix with his Carbon Copies deck and Escef with his Fungus of Speed and Time deck.
This week's card was Jace's Archivist : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/28063377/Break_the_Card_:_Jaces_Archivist.
Finalists : Jentaru with his "Consecration of the Draw" deck and HereticSmitty with his "ADHD: The deck" deck. Winner : JaxsonBateman with his "The Archives Are Endless!" deck.
Played a game on Cockatrice recently and had this happen. He had a Invisible Stalker out and had some equipment which I don't remember the name of. Anyway, he was swinging for five a turn, so I decided to overload Mizzium Mortars to kill it. He kept arguing that hexproof protected him and all this stuff. Said he was a judge and everything. I just stopped playing right then and there because he would not budge. I told him to go look up the rules and everything, but no, he was a judge, or so he said.
Yeah... Until next game, where it'll be right back.
Seriously, there's no way to deal with Rancor in any format. It should be banned, except Gleemax is a lobbyist for the Rancor party, so that'll never happen.
You can't ban rancor, it just returns to your deck.
You might want to actually talk to the Flavor & Storyline Board people... since, you know, our whole reason for playing Magic is the flavor. I'm willing to bet you'll get a lot more interest there than in General.
Indeed, both posters down there would be thrilled.
When talks about banning Jace first started, I was thinking that I would see him banned come June 20th. But as I think more about it, I don't really think that Jace is the problem anymore. Sure his power level leaves very little to the imagination (opening Jace is like opening a refrigerator box with a naked girl on the inside), and sure his price does have a strong impact on what players choose to play (playing Jace is like being intimate with a woman and she doesn't charge you in the morning), but it is not the source of all the problems in Standard.
How do people think saving room to print more abilities on cards is dumbing down the game?
Do you really think, say, Akroma would ever be printed if she said, "Akroma can block by creatures with this ability and cannot be blocked by creatures without this ability. If a creature without this ability would deal combat damage by Akroma would be destroyed, prevent all combat damage that creature would deal to Akroma this combat. Attacking does not cause Akroma to tap. If Akroma is blocked and deals lethal damage, it deals the remainder of its damage to the defending player. Akroma may attack and use abilities that require tapping in the casting cost the turn it enters the battlefield. Akroma cannot be damaged, enchanted, equipped, blocked or targeted by black or red sources" rather than her "dumbed down" wording she has? No freaking way. Keywording and shorthand allows them to make complicated cards easy to play with, allowing them to be printed in the first place.
1. cast frankie peanuts 2. ask opponent "will you concede the game this turn"? if they say yes, you win; if they say no, play a staying power 3. subsequently ask "will you attack this turn"? and "will you cast a spell this turn"? (using a Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir for the second question if necessary) to ensure they can't disrupt the combo 4. donate them a platinum angel 5. play a mox lotus and braingeyser them for every card in their library. play an opalescence and donate them a glorious anthem and a blacker lotus , then play enchanted evening . play and activate a mindslaver and then donate them a fastbond and the mox lotus (returning one of the donates to your hand with eternal witness or whatever) 6. during their turn, play every permanent in their hand (playing lands with fastbond) then (as yourself) cast mirrorweave on the blacker lotus, so every permanent becomes a copy of it. proceed to tear up every card they control, and hopefully do it before they notice that they aren't bound by staying power's ability anymore and can concede
Dark Ritual being overpowered is determined more by what is done with it than the card itself.
True, but the fact that it enables so many ridiculous things is pretty telling. It's like, sure I can use a shotgun as a bludgeoning instrument, but that doesn't make it not a shotgun.
Shortly before Serra died, she transferred her spark into an angel whose full name was Asha Avacyn Bolas. Her dragon father groomed her for her positions in Alara and Innistrad, and she's also been getting help from her uncle Ugin in the form of Urza, who was resurrected as Marit Lage to be the avatar as which she projects herself into material realms. Grieslbrand is a split personality who sometimes wanders the planes disguised as a human woman named Liliana Vess.
Everyone's life would be easier if players would, instead of coming to the 'net for help with a deck, just netdeck and be done with it. And I'm not talking about some Top 8 lists, for the Casualists, too, can benefit from netdecking. I've netdecked plenty of decks from the Casual Play forums from users such as Mown, Raedien, Floopfoot, and a few others. I snatched straight the heck out of my web browser. Yes, people, your original idea fell victim to a savage netdecker. You have been assimiliated.
Suppose I wanted a Zombie deck. Why on earth would I spend time searching Gatherer for a decent list of Zombie cards when Raedien already did it for me? Taking time to be creative or waiting on people on the forums to tell you why your deck sucks or 'go to Casual forums' is a disasterous waste of time (to me).
That being said, Magic was ruined back in Alpha when they added all that rules and cards [Debutantes avert your eyes]. My friends and I still like playing it the "pure" way (Basically we go into the woods and hit eachother with wiffle bats while shouting made up obscenities. You know, the way Garfield wanted it to be played).
Don't worry about it. I've come up with a list of changes to fix EDH.
-First off, there's no commander. -The minimum deck size is 60 cards, and each deck can have up to four of each card, save basic lands and relentless rats. Also decks have no color identity. -Starting life total is 20.
Here's a clever play you can try yourself: -Convince friend to run relentless rats.dec in legacy tournament -Get a deck with lots of mill, yixlid jailer, and humility -Drop humility and jailer, wait for him to dump his hand, mill him out -All his rats now have no abilities. Call a judge because he's playing an illegal deck with more than 4 of a single card. -Get him/her banned from competitive magic play
L, is for the leather gloves you weaaaar. O, is for the organs that guy could spaaaare. V, is very very, extraordinay. E, is for every vagrant i butchered in a wine cellar befooooore.
The outer layer of the Magic: the Gathering box, the carton, or crust, is fairly thin and light, and contains largely aluminosilcates.
Within that lies the middle layer, consisting of the familiar booster pack. Although solid, the booster packs' high temperatures allow them to acutally move around within the booster box. This flow, sometimes called convection, is cited by frustrated box mappers as one of WOTC's most genious uses of thermodynamics since the Ravnica block.
No one knows what lies at the core of the booster box, but scientists theorize that it must be especially dense in order to make up for the large amount of fluff distributed amongst the booster packs.
I imagine [Ajani 3's] second ability involves him hurling the creature at your opponent Brion Stoutarm style, then the guy is just like "Okay, that may have worked, but don't- GOD DAMN IT!" as he does it again because cats don't give a **** :33.
Its like that one time Elves broke out in a field of Jund. Elves became a resurgent hit, then died off again once Jund adapted to the rest of the field of G/W that it required mass removal that inherently pooped on Elves too.
Submit to the menace. Delver can, and will blot out the sun.
"I remember my days as a youth at Tolarian Academy ." "Wow, small multiverse, I actually went there too." "WAIT, DON'T- Well ****, there's $200,000 in student loans well spent."
And flavor goes out the window when you cast a second copy of a planeswalker right after the first one dies, so...
"Hey Nissa, I need a favor." "You just asked me for a 'favor' like thirty seconds ago, and it turned out to be having Sarkhan Transmogrify my only follower into a dragon like 5 times -which dickery aside also violates some laws of causality - and then you let me get beaten over the head by that hedron crab." "...I'll give you " "...Well all right then."
GM, I don't think Dill is better than you. I KNOW it. Even if he wakes up every morning, clubs a baby seal, steals all the TV remotes from within a block's radius of his house and then robs hungry orphans of their food he'd be better than you, for the simple reason that he learns from his mistakes.
What would they have to fight about? Like, all I can think of now is Gideon going "Hey, long-ears! I'm gathering a group of 'Walkers together to fight some tentacle monsters.....you want in?" and Tamiyo going "Ew! Hentai no bakka Gideon-desu desu!" and flying away.
I open 4 packs just to be on the safe side. Not only do I get more cards than everyone else, but I also get to spend the rest of the night off. Win Win.
MaRo has a thing for people opening boosters with bad cards. But since he can only get so many bad cards printed in each set, he has found a devious way of getting more bad cards into circulation: He makes entire print sheets with just bad rares, then puts them onto the assembly line. He proceeds to wring his hands and twirl his evil mustache that he grew for twirling purposes as a lightning bolt strikes in the background. Afterwards, he goes to make sure that the good cards are only opened by everyone's friends, and that we all only get to open bad cards. He does this by memorising each booster, than switching them around accordingly. Whenever someone complains about a card, he immediately jumps out from behind a chair to yell "WELL, IT'S NOT FOR YOU!" before merging back into the shadows in order to devise new ways in which he can screw over players, then claim that he has valid reasons for doing so.
Mark Rosewater is sitting in a seemingly innocuous cable TV van, outside of Bankaimastery's house. Sitting nearby are two hardened criminal hackers, fresh out of prison, and filled with resentment at their lack of physical fitness. "Have you managed to hack his brainwaves yet? The set deadline's coming up fast." "We're almost through. It should be coming up on the screen any second." The hacker presses a button, and Kevin's thoughts flash onto the screen. Mark and the hackers stare in amazement at the sheer beauty, the elegance, and the raw truth of what they see. It's like the ending to 2001: A Space Odyssey. Brilliant light shines across the screen, the truth of existence is made clear to them, and they despair at their own foolishness, their own ignorance, their own inadequacy. And then they steal his ideas. As they return back to R&D, Mark sneers at a haggard old man chained to a cast-iron sphere. The man looks up from his laborious task of breaking rocks in the dungeon of Wizards of the Coast headquarters, and asks a question: "Kevin, my greatest student. He - he's all right, isn't he? You didn't hurt him?" Mark deals him a weighty blow with his boot. "Know your place, Richard. Get back to work."
I'm only opposed to it because it bears so little relation to how people actually play the game. The example of Miracles is actually a much better one then the Clone example I was trying to use.
From the game's perspective, the card can move instantly from face down in the library to revealed in the hand and that's fine for the rules. But in real life, we can't actually do that, so the card spends a good bit of time in locations that are neither where that player's library is nor where that player's hand is. And that's fine for real life. What I don't want is the disconnect to be explicitly codified. Along the lines of
183664.697 A game of Magic as laid out by these rules exists only as a pure Platonic ideal, utterly unrealizable by fallible mortals limited by the confines of physicality and the ravages of evil and sin.
183664.698 The cake is a lie, too.
I know it's true, but I don't want the rules to actually straight-up tell me that.
Pfft this cant be serious can it? If it is please delete your account OP. Its not even close to ban worthy, considering what JTMS and stoneforge had to accomplish to get banned i see the WotC selling magic to aquire Pokemon before that ever happens.
I'm trying to imagine sorin markov as a gym leader in one of those pokemon games which you have to beat him to get his badge... somehow I imagine that he would stab you in the chest with his sword before giving you the badge, even if you beat his pokemon....
Personally, I'd be fine with tea time but then I'm not gonna waste the mana summoning Emrakul, the Aeons Torn . He always takes all the sugar, drinks the whole pot of Earl Grey and doesn't even say thank you. SO. RUDE.
Break the Card is a regular thread in the Cards and Combo Forum. Quite simply, the participants are given a Johnnystatic card (e.g. Xenograft ) and are asked to build a deck around it. The winner and honorable mentions are sigged below. Get brewing!
This week's Break the Card was based around Xenograft . Thread : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/27681049/Break_the_card_:_Xenograft?pg=1
Winner : Axterix with his Vampdrazi deck. Finalist : Vektor480 with his Ally/Golem/Plant deck. Honorable mentions : Zammm for the Turntimber Ranger combo and TinGorilla for suggesting Sarkhan the Mad .
Here's the link to the Mindlock Orb contest : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/27697565/Break_the_Card_:_Mindlock_Orb?sdb=1&pg=last#497536269
Here's the link to Break the Card : Bludgeon Brawl : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/27715169/Break_the_Card_:_Bludgeon_Brawl?sdb=1&pg=last#498208797
Winner : Vektor and his Grab the World deck. Finalist : Crandor with his Awesome Aliteration deck. Honorable mentions : RP Jesus with his Wat deck and Zix200 with his Signet Renewal deck.
This week was Followed Footsteps : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/27748677/Break_the_Card_:_Followed_Footsteps?pg=1
Winner : Tevish_Szat with his Exponential Growth deck. Honorable mentions : Zix with his Carbon Copies deck and Escef with his Fungus of Speed and Time deck.
This week's card was Jace's Archivist : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/28063377/Break_the_Card_:_Jaces_Archivist.
Finalists : Jentaru with his "Consecration of the Draw" deck and HereticSmitty with his "ADHD: The deck" deck. Winner : JaxsonBateman with his "The Archives Are Endless!" deck.
I did just snap at someone on MWS... I mean, if his deck selection wasn't bad enough (alpha duals, moxen and Oath of Druids ) for a game labelled 'casual', he seemed to not know how to use MWS at all. Before we start, we both roll, and he beats my 16 with an 18. After we draw, he rolls again... I tell him he won the roll, and he says something like "sorry, I don't read".
Turn 3, he plays Impulse . That's fine - but then, of course, he draws 4 cards, and puts 3 cards from his hand on the bottom of his library. Potentially harmless, of course, but potentially cheating. When I mentioned that "that's not how you do Impulse" and "doing it that way means that I have to trust that you aren't cheating", I got no reply.
The final nail, then, is that when his Oath of Druids was resolving, he simply searched his library for Emmy and put it out. Never mind that Emmy could have potentially been the last card in the deck and he would've died to mill out next turn...
I mean, if you're going to run a deck with blatantly overpowered cards, at least know how to use the program. Though I guess I can be a little forgiving, he's probably inexperienced with both Magic and MWS to make those kinds of mistakes (indeed, he did cast Brainstorm and Impulse at sorcery speed).
Edit: for some reason, I never think to save logs... probably because I play to, well, play, so I'm looking for a new game quick smart. Anyway, just had one where a player attacked with Deftblade Elite , and tryed to provoke my Joraga Treespeaker (while having Catapult Squad and something else back, read to pounce). So I tap the Treespeaker in response, untap due to provoke, then tap it again to cast Beast Within on one of my lands. Starts going on about how that doesn't work and I have to block, and how provoke untaps the creature, and I agree with him, but then explicitly explain the steps I have taken. Just leaves with a 'whatever you reckon'.
Bah, MWS players, often so bad... hopefully my local players at the prerelease on the weekend are a bit more knowledgable.
I'm all about super-control in MTG. If you're able to stop my shenanigans, then there aren't enough shenanigans.
Omg, just hit gold - and of course, like usual I didn't save it. Maybe I should start saving all my logs so it becomes habit. Anyway...
Guy says "any deck, no quitters", so I join with my Power Conduit deck - pretty strong for a cas deck, but I enjoy it. Anyway, guy goes turn 2 Wall of Blossoms into turn 3 Frantic Search , Frantic Search , Recurring Nightmare , to swap out Blossoms for some crit that does 4 damage as an ETB. I make the comment "I have *no* idea why anyone would quit against this >.>" - because, y'know, no-one's seen reanimator before right?
Anyway, my turn 3 is simply Geralf's Messenger . And I pass. He does something like Dark Ritual , Recurring Nightmare to swap his damage guy for Spike Feeder , sacs Spike Feeder for life, then plays Llanowar Elves and Survival of the Fittest . So I also make the comment "ah, reanimator with vintage only cards, lovely". Haha, definitely wasn't polite this game, but I decided to just enjoy myself given the irony of a "no quitters" request and then playing vintage-only stuff.
Anyway, with him only having Nightmare in hand, I top deck an Inquisition of Kozilek and rip it from him. Attack, then start bleeding him out with Viscera Seer , Power Conduit and Hex Parasite . He topdecks a Birds of Paradise , and... plays it, instead of cycling for something better. My turn comes up, I just play a land, attack and bleed, he does nothing on his turn, then I proceed to bleed him out.
However, that's not the best part. The best part is that while I'm bleeding him out, he throws a fit, and tells me I'm playing a banned card. Curious as to what on Earth he thinks is banned (pretty sure I played out my hand, and the only cards he had seen were Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth , Twilight Mire , Swamp , Woodland Cemetery , Forest , Hex Parasite , Power Conduit , Viscera Seer , Geralf's Messenger and Inquisition of Kozilek ), I pushed him on it - he starts saying random troll stuff like "rofl, I won't play with a newb who doesn't even know what cards are banned", before quitting, without ever telling me what card he meant. So I'm left to wonder if he legitimately thinks one of those cards is banned (and which format he was referring to - I can only assume vintage), or if he was just trolling me because he was butthurt that I beat his vintage reanimator deck (albeit bad, but if I allowed myself to build decks with Survival of the Fittest things would get redic).
/endvent - but I did enjoy that. Think I might change my name and try and join another game of his, to hopefully provoke another outburst. >:-3
I'm all about super-control in MTG. If you're able to stop my shenanigans, then there aren't enough shenanigans.
Woo, success! Knowing what I'd be coming up against, I intentionally chose a deck I knew would have the edge over his in order to provoke a negative response, and it worked. :-)
I'm Obzedat, he's Shaun.
Obzedat vs Shaun [23/01/2013 1:37:59 PM]
0:00:00 [Obzedat] 0:00:00 [Obzedat] Obzedat shuffles library 0:00:00 [Obzedat] Obzedat draws 0 cards 0:00:00 [Shaun] Shaun shuffles library 0:00:00 [Shaun] I am ready. 0:00:00 [Shaun] Shaun draws 0 cards 0:00:00 [Shaun] <-------- New Game Started --------> 0:00:00 [Shaun] Shaun's Security Code: 84F95172 [???] 0:00:00 [Shaun] Obzedat's Security Code: 4E4BF877 [Type 1.5] 0:00:00 [Shaun] It is now turn 1 (Shaun) 0:00:00 [Shaun] It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step 0:00:00 [Shaun] Shaun shuffles library 0:00:01 [Shaun] Shaun shuffles library 0:00:01 [Obzedat] Obzedat shuffles library 0:00:02 [Shaun] Shaun shuffles library 0:00:02 [Obzedat] Obzedat shuffles library 0:00:04 [Obzedat] Obzedat rolled a 4, using a 20 sided die 0:00:04 [Shaun] Shaun shuffles library 0:00:04 [Obzedat] Obzedat shuffles library 0:00:05 [Obzedat] Obzedat shuffles library 0:00:06 [Obzedat] Obzedat shuffles library 0:00:06 [Shaun] Shaun rolled a 6, using a 20 sided die 0:00:07 [Obzedat] Obzedat shuffles library 0:00:08 [Obzedat] Obzedat draws a card 0:00:08 [Obzedat] Obzedat draws a card 0:00:08 [Shaun] Shaun draws 7 cards 0:00:08 [Obzedat] Obzedat draws a card 0:00:09 [Obzedat] Obzedat draws a card 0:00:09 [Obzedat] Obzedat draws a card 0:00:09 [Obzedat] Obzedat draws a card 0:00:10 [Obzedat] Obzedat draws a card 0:00:12 [Shaun] Shaun takes a mulligan 0:00:13 [Obzedat] keep 0:00:15 [Shaun] kp ip 0:00:21 [Shaun] Shaun plays Gemstone Mine from Hand 0:00:26 [Shaun] Gemstone Mine now has 3 (+3) counters. 0:00:26 [Shaun] It is now turn 2 (Obzedat) 0:00:26 [Shaun] It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step 0:00:28 [Obzedat] It is now the Beginning Phase, Draw Step 0:00:28 [Obzedat] Obzedat draws a card 0:00:28 [Obzedat] It is now the Precombat Main Phase 0:00:28 [Shaun] End my turn 0:00:31 [Obzedat] Obzedat puts Overgrown Tomb into play tapped from Hand 0:00:32 [Obzedat] It is now the End Phase, End Of Turn Step 0:00:33 [Obzedat] End my turn 0:00:35 [Shaun] Shaun untaps his/her permanents 0:00:35 [Shaun] Shaun draws a card 0:00:41 [Shaun] Shaun plays Swamp from Hand 0:00:42 [Shaun] It is now turn 3 (Shaun) 0:00:42 [Shaun] It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step 0:00:44 [Shaun] End my turn 0:00:45 [Obzedat] It is now turn 4 (Obzedat) 0:00:45 [Obzedat] It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step 0:00:46 [Obzedat] Obzedat untaps his/her permanents 0:00:46 [Obzedat] It is now the Beginning Phase, Upkeep Step 0:00:46 [Obzedat] It is now the Beginning Phase, Draw Step 0:00:46 [Obzedat] Obzedat draws a card 0:00:46 [Obzedat] It is now the Precombat Main Phase 0:00:53 [Obzedat] Obzedat plays Verdant Catacombs from Hand 0:00:54 [Obzedat] Obzedat taps Overgrown Tomb 0:00:55 [Obzedat] Obzedat plays Nihil Spellbomb from Hand 0:00:56 [Obzedat] It is now the End Phase, End Of Turn Step 0:00:57 [Obzedat] End my turn 0:00:59 [Shaun] Shaun untaps his/her permanents 0:00:59 [Shaun] Shaun draws a card 0:01:02 [Shaun] Shaun plays Swamp from Hand 0:01:04 [Shaun] Thinking 0:01:19 [Shaun] It is now turn 5 (Shaun) 0:01:19 [Shaun] It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step 0:01:21 [Shaun] End my turn 0:01:22 [Obzedat] EOT 0:01:23 [Obzedat] Obzedat's life total is now 19 (-1) 0:01:24 [Obzedat] Obzedat taps Verdant Catacombs 0:01:25 [Obzedat] Obzedat sacrifices Verdant Catacombs 0:01:26 [Obzedat] Obzedat is looking its Library... 0:01:29 [Obzedat] Obzedat puts Overgrown Tomb into play from Library 0:01:30 [Obzedat] Obzedat taps Overgrown Tomb 0:01:31 [Obzedat] Obzedat shuffles library 0:01:31 [Obzedat] Obzedat stops looking its Library... 0:01:32 [Obzedat] It is now turn 6 (Obzedat) 0:01:32 [Obzedat] It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step 0:01:33 [Obzedat] Obzedat untaps his/her permanents 0:01:33 [Obzedat] It is now the Beginning Phase, Upkeep Step 0:01:33 [Obzedat] It is now the Beginning Phase, Draw Step 0:01:34 [Obzedat] Obzedat draws a card 0:01:34 [Obzedat] It is now the Precombat Main Phase 0:01:44 [Obzedat] Obzedat plays Twilight Mire from Hand 0:01:47 [Obzedat] Obzedat taps Overgrown Tomb 0:01:47 [Obzedat] Obzedat taps Overgrown Tomb 0:01:47 [Obzedat] Obzedat taps Twilight Mire 0:01:49 [Obzedat] Obzedat plays Beseech the Queen from Hand 0:01:52 [Obzedat] Ok? 0:01:58 [Shaun] k 0:01:59 [Obzedat] Obzedat is looking its Library... 0:02:02 [Obzedat] Obzedat puts Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth into play from Library 0:02:03 [Obzedat] Obzedat shuffles library 0:02:03 [Obzedat] Obzedat stops looking its Library... 0:02:05 [Obzedat] Obzedat puts Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth to Hand from Play 0:02:06 [Obzedat] Obzedat reveals a Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth 0:02:07 [Obzedat] End my turn 0:02:09 [Obzedat] Obzedat sacrifices Beseech the Queen 0:02:10 [Shaun] EOT 0:02:11 [Shaun] Shaun taps Swamp 0:02:12 [Shaun] Shaun plays Vampiric Tutor from Hand (so that's at least 2 vintage-only cards he has in his deck, sigh) 0:02:14 [Shaun] Shaun's life total is now 18 (-2) 0:02:16 [Obzedat] Ok 0:02:17 [Shaun] Shaun is looking its Library... 0:02:27 [Shaun] Shaun puts card to Hand from Library 0:02:27 [Shaun] Shaun shuffles library 0:02:28 [Shaun] Shaun stops looking its Library... 0:02:28 [Shaun] Shaun shuffles library 0:02:29 [Obzedat] Wait! 0:02:30 [Shaun] Shaun puts Vampiric Tutor to Graveyard from Play 0:02:32 [Obzedat] on top of library 0:02:33 [Shaun] Shaun puts a card on top of Library from Hand 0:02:37 [Obzedat] Ok 0:02:40 [Shaun] Shaun untaps his/her permanents 0:02:41 [Shaun] Shaun draws a card 0:02:43 [Shaun] Shaun taps Swamp 0:02:45 [Shaun] Shaun taps Swamp 0:02:47 [Shaun] Shaun taps Gemstone Mine 0:02:49 [Shaun] Gemstone Mine now has 2 (-1) counters. 0:02:50 [Shaun] Shaun plays Uktabi Orangutan from Hand 0:02:56 [Obzedat] resp 0:02:58 [Obzedat] Obzedat taps Nihil Spellbomb 0:03:00 [Obzedat] Obzedat sacrifices Nihil Spellbomb 0:03:05 [Shaun] Shaun puts Vampiric Tutor to RFG from Graveyard 0:03:07 [Shaun] It is now turn 7 (Shaun) 0:03:07 [Shaun] It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step 0:03:08 [Shaun] End my turn 0:03:09 [Obzedat] It is now turn 8 (Obzedat) 0:03:09 [Obzedat] It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step 0:03:10 [Obzedat] Obzedat untaps his/her permanents 0:03:10 [Obzedat] It is now the Beginning Phase, Upkeep Step 0:03:11 [Obzedat] It is now the Beginning Phase, Draw Step 0:03:12 [Obzedat] Obzedat draws a card 0:03:12 [Obzedat] It is now the Precombat Main Phase 0:03:16 [Obzedat] Thinking 0:03:21 [Obzedat] Obzedat plays Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth from Hand 0:03:25 [Obzedat] It is now the End Phase, End Of Turn Step 0:03:26 [Obzedat] End my turn 0:03:29 [Shaun] Shaun untaps his/her permanents 0:03:29 [Shaun] Shaun draws a card 0:03:31 [Shaun] Shaun taps Swamp 0:03:32 [Shaun] Shaun taps Swamp 0:03:33 [Shaun] Shaun taps Gemstone Mine 0:03:41 [Shaun] Shaun untaps Gemstone Mine 0:03:43 [Shaun] Shaun taps Gemstone Mine 0:03:44 [Shaun] Gemstone Mine now has 1 (-1) counters. 0:03:46 [Shaun] Shaun plays Recurring Nightmare from Hand 0:03:47 [Shaun] It is now turn 9 (Shaun) 0:03:47 [Shaun] It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step 0:03:49 [Shaun] Shaun taps Uktabi Orangutan 0:03:49 [Obzedat] Ok 0:03:51 [Obzedat] Obzedat's life total is now 17 (-2) 0:03:52 [Shaun] It is now turn 10 (Obzedat) 0:03:52 [Shaun] It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step 0:03:54 [Shaun] End my turn 0:03:55 [Obzedat] Obzedat untaps his/her permanents 0:03:55 [Obzedat] It is now the Beginning Phase, Upkeep Step 0:03:56 [Obzedat] It is now the Beginning Phase, Draw Step 0:03:56 [Obzedat] Obzedat draws a card 0:03:56 [Obzedat] It is now the Precombat Main Phase 0:04:02 [Obzedat] Obzedat plays Cabal Coffers from Hand 0:04:04 [Obzedat] Obzedat taps Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth 0:04:05 [Obzedat] Obzedat taps Twilight Mire 0:04:06 [Obzedat] Obzedat taps Cabal Coffers 0:04:07 [Obzedat] Obzedat plays Maelstrom Pulse from Hand 0:04:15 [Shaun] Shaun puts Recurring Nightmare to Graveyard from Play 0:04:16 [Obzedat] Obzedat sacrifices Maelstrom Pulse 0:04:17 [Obzedat] It is now the End Phase, End Of Turn Step 0:04:18 [Obzedat] End my turn 0:04:20 [Shaun] Shaun untaps his/her permanents 0:04:20 [Shaun] Shaun draws a card 0:04:26 [Shaun] Shaun taps Uktabi Orangutan 0:04:28 [Obzedat] Obzedat's life total is now 15 (-2) 0:04:29 [Shaun] It is now turn 11 (Shaun) 0:04:29 [Shaun] It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step 0:04:31 [Shaun] End my turn 0:04:32 [Obzedat] It is now turn 12 (Obzedat) 0:04:32 [Obzedat] It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step 0:04:32 [Obzedat] Obzedat untaps his/her permanents 0:04:32 [Obzedat] It is now the Beginning Phase, Upkeep Step 0:04:33 [Obzedat] It is now the Beginning Phase, Draw Step 0:04:33 [Obzedat] Obzedat draws a card 0:04:33 [Obzedat] It is now the Precombat Main Phase 0:04:36 [Obzedat] Obzedat puts Overgrown Tomb into play tapped from Hand 0:04:38 [Obzedat] Obzedat taps Twilight Mire 0:04:38 [Obzedat] Obzedat taps Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth 0:04:40 [Obzedat] Obzedat untaps Twilight Mire 0:04:40 [Obzedat] Obzedat untaps Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth 0:04:41 [Obzedat] Obzedat taps Twilight Mire 0:04:42 [Obzedat] Obzedat taps Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth 0:04:42 [Obzedat] Obzedat taps Cabal Coffers 0:04:45 [Obzedat] Obzedat plays Black Sun's Zenith from Hand 0:04:47 [Obzedat] 4 (admittedly, I only needed 2, but the floating mana was going to disappear anyway, may as well use it all) 0:05:08 [Obzedat] Ok? 0:05:13 [Shaun] sorry cant put 4 -4-4 counters on a 2/2 0:05:18 [Shaun] most you can do is 2 0:05:24 [Obzedat] ? yes you can, why couldnt you? 0:05:28 [Obzedat] it just becomes a -2/-2 and dies 0:05:33 [Shaun] because hes a 2/2 duh? 0:05:43 [Obzedat] so? rules quote please 0:05:45 [Shaun] no u cant make a 2/2 a -2-2 are u a newb? 0:05:55 [Shaun] are u a newb? just curious? 0:05:55 [Obzedat] yes, you can. it dies next time state based actions are checked 0:06:09 [Shaun] no you cant give a 2/2 minus effects to gain 0:06:13 [Obzedat] otherwise cards like bsz and mutilate would be useless 0:06:21 [Shaun] are you a newb? 0:06:25 [Obzedat] rules quote or bin your orangutan please 0:06:28 [] Player Lost
Obviously just trolling. I'm pretty sure no-one's actually that bad at the game (taking into account this huge error, in addition to the 'card is banned' error from the last game). Still, I enjoyed this one, and catching my prey. ^^
I'm all about super-control in MTG. If you're able to stop my shenanigans, then there aren't enough shenanigans.
: Regenerate.
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